To think the men who put the Grenfell tower model on the bonfire should not be arrested

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I don’t wish to upset or offend anyone with this post.

I am a non-white woman. I am upset and disgusted by the men who were filmed putting a model of Grenfel tower on the bonfire. What’s more upsetting is the fact that model depicted images of black children being burried alive.

However this act had taken place in the privacy of their own homes so I am wondering whether it is in the public’s interest to arrest and charge these men. I’m personally more concerned that our privacy is no longer respected and we could be held account for moral acts we do in our own homes. How many of us make prejudice, racist or other comments in ‘the safety’ of our homes. Is this more of a social concern than a legal one.

Or is it the uploading of the image which makes it subjectable to a public order offence.

I would rather see the man power, resources and money being used here used somewhere else.

What does everyone else think?

The video is horrific but the consequences for those who made it should be social, not legal.

Agreed. Whatever they did was nasty, but I don't believe it should be illegal.

Putting to one side the legality or otherwise, these exemplars of good sense and patriotism will be - I'm happy to put money on this - currently snivelling to the police that they 'didn't mean to upset no one, we was only having a larf no offence, banter, banter o look now those loons on the left have scared us with their nasty words and now we cant go home. What you going to do about it? We need protection'. Or something along those lines. For those of you who feel they are being needlessly persecuted, I hope you enjoy paying for it.

Longwayoff, I assume you will be paying too?
Or do you think that those who offend should be subject to the pitchfork wielding mob...

What I object to is the fact that the police are now investigating videos in which no crime has been committed simply because they have to be seen to be doing something in order to satisfy the mob. We really, really do not want to go down the road of turning private speech and expression that does not damage people or property into a police matter. It is not.

Yes buster, I dont have a problem with paying taxes unlike many on the Right who have no sense of collective responsibility.

longway eh??? Everyone pays taxes despite who they vote for. Why would Tories have a problem - they pay for the system.

Longwayoff
You will find people from all hues of the political spectrum have condemned these people for a fantastically distasteful act.

If they hadn't been idiots and posted it online, they would be fine. Noone would know they were bigoted twats. But they did post it, so they should pay the price. They are vile tbh

Indeed neshoma I wasn't referring to Tories. Buster, not quite the full spectrum.

Vixxxy, do we know who posted it.....and where, because the only place I have seen it has been in reputable news websites.

The person who posted it may not have been in the group or even at that party...

I thought about posting this onto these threads last night but i thought id let a few more posts about freedom of speech onto the thread first.

Because some quarters want it both ways.

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/gagging-clauses-criticism-of-theresa-may-banned-in-grenfell-safety-deal-7mbdll6cj

Experts hired by the government to test cladding 12 days after the Grenfell Tower fire were banned from criticising Theresa May or doing anything to embarrass her, The Times can reveal.

The engineering company WSP agreed to the terms when it was appointed to analyse the safety of government buildings in the days after the disaster.

WSP’s contract stated that it must not create “adverse publicity” about the Cabinet Office or other Crown bodies, a group of organisations that includes the prime minister’s office.

They posted it onto a private WhatsApp group ( I think ? ) so I’m guessing someone in that group decided to share it & it went from there.

Helena, that is an absolutely standard clause for any contractor working on any building except domestic.

It doesn't restrict their freedom of speech because they are perfectly entitled to turn the job down if they don't want the work.