Mmr and links to austim

[Michelle38wales]

Do you think there’s a link with mmr and austim, I’ve already 3 children with austim so not sure about my baby having it

Who knows

@grabbit you have (ill informed) tunnel vision.

Mumps is an airborne respiratory disease. You can pick it up Grin door handles even. It is incredibly infectious. My BIL is sterile because of measles. I would love you to spend ten Minutes discussing this with him and my sister, as this obviously massively impacts on her.

In my immediate family alone, measles, which is an incredibly awful and horrid disease which weakens the immune system, my other BIL caught it at 9 months old and was an incredibly sickly child. As an adult he has many severe allergies. Pre -vaccination injuries in m family include my uncle, who died in my grandfathers arms at 5 months old. My grandmother was partially blinded as a child.

Thankfully no rubella injuries, but no reason not to vaccinate.

Why on earth would you turn your back on modern medicine?

Get your head out of the sand, look up herd immunity and talk to your doctor.

The problem with your argument is that everything is ok in your little world (massively assisted by everyone else doing their contributions to herd immunity), until it's not. And then the risks are very very real.

There. Are. No. Links.

Most likely genetic as others have said. DH is somewhat on the spectrum and he never had it. Son did and is but takes after his dad.

the reason not to vaccinate is that there is a risk of damage.

Small, tiny risk? Absolutely. I accept that.

But they are not taking that risk when there is no benefit to them, it really is as simple as that.

So. Measles... grabbit?

I'm not. I've already explained this.

So you’re going to delegate the responsibility to them as adults to get vaccinated when they get pregnant?

As I have said, if i could get measles as a single vaccine I would.

I call that bullshit, grabbit.

Nobody can read the threads specifically aimed at you and then seriously type that response

Like the OP, you re just being a truly GF!

It's very easily available. Very easily.

I agree @CuriousaboutSamphire .

Sadly there isn't a vaccine for being a GF idiot.

Erm, yespurple, if they get pregnant

that is common sense is it not? You have vaccinations against tropical diseases when you travel to the tropics, you get a vaccination for a disease that can harm you when pregnant when pregnancy may feature in your life.

excuse me curious

i am not the one being a gf ... we evidently differ in our views but that is not being a gf, that is having an opinion that differs from the majority

I think it's quite a big benefit not to watch a friend who's rubella vaccine has worn off give birth to a disabled child

Or just not suffer the illnesses which probably have FAR greater risks to your kids than the tiny vaccine risk

But we don't have a vaccine yet for CMV and tbh your kids are far more risky to pregnant women and more disability comes from CMV than rubella exposed pregnancies so...

Pregnant women are generally adults - they can and should take responsibility for their vaccinations themselves.

It is morally wrong to ask babies to take a risk - even a small one - for the sake of a hypothetical adult.

The MMR diseases might seem statistically unlikely to harm your children now, because they are healthy. It’s almost impossible to imagine one’s own children as anything other than perfect.

However, children don’t necessarily stay that way. Bad luck happens - as the parent of a 7 year old who is now under the care of haematology/oncology and who has to have life saving drugs that lower her immune system, I’m beyond thankful that she’s fully vaccinated.

My DN has ASD (diagnosed when she was 3) and the subsequent tests showed it is NOT genetic.

She had a lumbar puncture (suspected meningitis, it wasn't) at a few months old and was never the same.

We don't have the answers. But MMR is not a cause of autism.

As I have said, if i could get measles as a single vaccine I would.

If you looked, you'd find it easily available. Clearly you can't operate Google because if you could you'd have immunised yourself appropriately (privately if needs be).

rephrase - If I could get measles as a single vaccine on the NHS, I would.

So... hang on @grabbit . You do know that the most babies do grow into adults, not hypothetical ones???

Morally wrong? Do you buckle their seatbelts? Do you keep them safe? Why would you not do this across the board?

You will not vaccinate against mumps as your DC are girls.

If and when they want to get pregnant you will vaccinate them against Rubella (which is German measles, can affect them at any time and incredibly nasty).

You claim you will vaccinate them for Measles but you can't find anyone in your area to do it.

Yikes. 

Just saw your add on. I see. You will only protect your children if it's free.

Niiiiice. 

I've no idea what you're getting excited about. Of course babies grow into adults. I'm not disputing that.

The point is, rubella is not harmful. It is harmful to an unborn child but not to my children as they are, nor when they are adults.

Years down the line, if my children are thinking about starting a family, they check their immunity and if not immune, have the vaccination.

Just as you would have a vaccination for a tropical disease if travelling to the tropics.

Erm, yespurple, if they get pregnant. That is common sense is it not?

Rubella vaccine is currently not recommended for pregnant women. and 40% of pregnancies in UK are unplanned. But oh well, tough luck?

Not quite rainbow - finances don't stretch for private healthcare at the moment.

I think that comment shows I am not the GF

Well yes, tough luck.

Adults can take responsibility for their own healthcare. If you are a woman of child bearing age and sexually active and have not checked you are immune to rubella and in that hypothetical situation catch it from one of my girls and there is damage to the unborn child am I sorry ... of course ... do I still stand by my decision ... yes.

No it was all a load of nonsense. Get the vaccine.