To believe that fireworks shouldn’t be available to the general public?

[FatNoMorePat]

Fireworks at this time of night!!!

I’m partial to a sparkler don’t get me wrong, but I just don’t agree with fireworks being readily available for joe public. Particularly when people let them off after 11pm!

I’m not saying get rid of them all together but make it stricter so they’re only let off in safe environments by people who’ve had adequate training who then clean everything up and it’s all done and dusted before 11pm.

Am I getting old??

The weirdos are trying to take over

I like this
laurieruettimann.com/dont-trust-people-dont-love-animals/

Because it’s getting ludicrous now.

Thanks to all on the thread earlier who gave me much needed support last night with my daughter and my pets. It really helped, I only wish we could block individuals on here and their cold dark hearts

Goodnight Shitlandpony

Hope your daughter is OK and you both get a decent, firework free nights sleep

*Ruffina

You’re not very bright are you, Ginger?

And you are a namechanging troll Ruffina.

Gone on then Ruff ..I'll bite, exactly how am I not very bright? Or can you not think of anything more original to write?

Night Gingerlover2, I sent you a PM earlier before returning to this thread, hope you got it and thanks again for the support during a truly awful evening yesterday.

Agreed Shitlandpony but it's fun seeing what utter bollocks they come up with next.

No, I just don’t give up all common sense for dogs.

If I were a troll I’d presumably eat dogs. Which I don’t do.

Night @ginger and @ShitlandPony

No Shitlandpony I didn't, otherwise I'd have responded

Oh my gosh, I sent it to someone called gingertigercat, I will re send

*@PennyArcade your comment made me laugh! 😂

I can’t believe I’m having to clarify I don’t enjoy stepping in dog poo on a thread I’ve made about the sale of fireworks being restricted*

This thread gets more weird by the minute.... 🤷

Night FatNoMorePat - no more dog hating threads

No one here has given up any common sens,. in fact anything but. Before you pitched up snivelling about dog shit it was a helpful and supportive discussion.

But you've given up any semblance of humanity by lying, strawmanning and having zero respect for anyone else's feelings or concerns except your own

May you step in dogshite tomorrow and walk it right through your house

Sorry Pat

*common sense

ROSPA says that public displays would be a safer option

Despite annual safety warnings, firework celebrations still end in painful injuries for too many people, including very young children

Yet fireworks can be great fun for families, not just around November 5 (Bonfire Night/Guy Fawkes Night), but also Diwali, New Year’s Eve and Chinese New Year

Injury figures support the advice that the safest place to enjoy fireworks is at a large public display - far fewer people are injured here than at smaller family or private parties

I dont think you have half-way ban it. They ban it totally. It's the only way to stop animals dying completely unnecessarily.
Vast numbers get huge social enjoyment out of them, and safety standard fireworks, handled safely, very rarely cause incident. Many, many other things cause far more damage.
Having said that, all the animals we share our world with do not deserve terrorising for the sake of our enjoyment.

There is nowhere to hold firework displays that won't adversely impact animals and ppl, unless all the loud bags are removed, and the height of their range reduced significantly.
Clearly too many fireworks fall into dangerous hands, but clearly an egg can cause death in dangerous hands (the car egging incident).
I never want to read a single story of an animal's suffering involving a firework, its disgusting and sadistic and makes me feel sick.
I will be having fireworks, and we will be doing that in such a way as to not cause harm. We will have a great time, but not at anyone else's expense.
Some sadistic git has been cutting the heads of dcats, he needs..well I won't say. There are too many sadistic ppl get access to animals.

Sure, there are twats misusing fireworks and people who struggle with the noise. But banning them for private use? I think that's out of proportion to the damage done. With everything we have to balance personal freedom with the social good. And I'm afraid there are far worse things than fireworks. If we were really going to ban things on the grounds of public wellbeing then the place to start would be cars, alcohol, smoking, sugar, chocolate, junk food and (thinking very long term) plastic. Firworks are way down the list of harmful things.

Shriek, if the law ever changes on firework sales (I believe eventually it will but) I don't see a ban on organised displays also happening.

I don't have a problem really with organised displays. Yes, of course, some people are still distressed by them and pets too. But if you know there are going to be displays on 5th November you can take steps to minimise the effect. Obviously farm animals, wildlife etc cannot all be protected which is very sad.

Even with organised displays though the fireworks have got louder and louder over the years. I have never liked the ones that make such a loud bang. I just don't see the point. I only like the pretty ones.

Also organised displays need to preferably be on the 5th or close to. I don't see why some are so spread out. There were some local ones on Saturday evening which I understand as it was the closest Saturday to the 5th. Then there were a couple last night. There are quite a few tonight (obviously as today is bonfire night) but then there are some tomorrow and even Wednesday. That I don't get at all.

People that let off fireworks for New Year let them off, obviously, on New Year's Eve not the night before or the night after or on the 3rd of 4th January so why is that people who let fireworks off for bonfire night let them off on totally the wrong night?

Also organised displays need to preferably be on the 5th or close to. I don't see why some are so spread out. There were some local ones on Saturday evening which I understand as it was the closest Saturday to the 5th. Then there were a couple last night. There are quite a few tonight (obviously as today is bonfire night) but then there are some tomorrow and even Wednesday. That I don't get at all.

Simply resources mean organised displays need to be spread out, limited number of trained pyrotechnics people, the policing required for a public event, often organised displays often have fairground rides, fast-food outlets they can't be everywhere on the 5th!

I totally agree with you. Not only the fact that you are actually dealing with potentially dangerous items (which might shoot off into a neighbours garden). It is totally anti-social. My cat was absolutely terrified last night and I really do not need to listen to my neighbours loud fireworks

AvoidingDM, well then there needs to be less displays. It seems ridiculous to me to hold them on all different dates. Bonfire night is the 5th November, no other night. Displays should really be on that night.

As I said, New Year's Eve fireworks are only held on New Year's Eve. If you said you were having a display another night people would laugh and think you were mad and yet we accept firework displays and parties being held days before and after the 5th

You can't have it both ways, limiting private sale fireworks will mean more displays not less.

The 5th fireworks gets used as a fundraiser by lots of football and rugby clubs near here I'd guess there bound to be cricket clubs who do the same. Round tables and rotary clubs also use it as a charity fundraiser.
They don't tend to be as many displays for New Year, only big citys tend to do them not the small towns and villages.

sick sick SICK bastards How could they?

www.expressandstar.com/news/2018/11/05/grenfell-tower-effigy-burned-at-bonfire-night-display-in-appalling-footage/

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46071940

Almost 4,500 people in England attended A&E with injuries from fireworks last year, double the number in 2009-10, according to figures from NHS Digital.

Half of those seen in hospital last year were aged 18 or under, and 80% were male

Plastic surgeons say the number of life-changing injuries is rising every year despite numerous safety campaigns.

The campaign is being led by the British Association of Plastic, Reconstructive and Aesthetic Surgeons (Bapras).

Bapras president David Ward said: "We are extremely concerned about the continued misuse of fireworks, particularly by those under the age of 18 away from organised events.

They are calling for packaging changes showing graphic injuries rather than bans or restictions to organised displays.

Wouldn't this be a wonderful way to make everyone happy, so no bangs and perhaps classical music played along like they do in London.

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