All people are created equal—that is, unless they’re fat

[phlirty]

www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/real-healing/201308/i-see-fat-people

Research reveals that weight discrimination is hurled at people from all directions:

More than half of doctors described their overweight patients as ugly, awkward and non-compliant with treatment.

Nearly one-quarter of nurses admitted to feeling repulsed by their obese patients.

Nearly 30 percent of teachers said that becoming obese was "the worst thing that can happen to someone."

Defendants in lawsuits who are overweight are more likely to get slapped with a guilty verdict.

More than 70 percent of obese people reported being ridiculed about their weight by a family member.

Fifty-two percent of obese individuals believe they’ve been discriminated against when seeking employment or a promotion.

Children as young as 4 are reluctant to make friends with an overweight child.

I've been obese after being a very slim child. Now I'm normal BMI. It's a struggle though. I don't know what the answer to all this is. I feel sorry for the kids though. They are growing up in an environment where it is much easier to put on weight than lose it. Then have to put up with this. Mixed messages. Wasn't the same problem when I was a kid.

I'm fat and ginger. And a model

Are you? Who for?

So I am one of those people who dislikes Obese people...
I know probably going to be vilified.
I am friends with but I do not find it attractive at all.
I know it makes me shallow.
Ironically enough I got ill a few years ago and had to take steriods, put on three stone in as many months and hated it.

My physcology behind it, I don't completely understand.
I do know I had an obese dad for most of my life (secret eater turns out), a mum who was a feeder. It always has upset me as I see it as selfish behaviour. All the time I asked him to loose weight but until he got diabetes and high cholesterol quite badly, as it wasn't under control, he never lost any.
It just always felt like you have higher risks of heart attacks, diabetes - do you not want to live, spend time with your loved ones etc?!

I would never think somebody isn't clever, capable or anything like that though if obese. Definitely no need to bully people, call names and the like either.

@donquixotedelamancha

How rude.

Queen - myself. Freeelance as I do it alongside my job, I'm not agency signed

That isn’t really modelling is it?

I am 18 on the BMI scale. I’m luck because I’m naturally slim, however, due to marital problems I became anxious and depressed so was prescribed amitriptyline. Within ten months, despite being very active, I put on a stone. I literally couldn’t stop eating. It was an eye opener for me as I normally automatically regulate what I eat without having to think about it.

I’m no longer taking the medication and my weight has gone back to how it normally is but it’s taught me that anyone can easily put on weight due to life circumstances

No 
So all the freelance models who earn £££ per hour. Stand in front of a camera, get bookings and have pictures published are....?

"My physcology behind it, I don't completely understand"

Exactly, you don't.

So can it be explained or is to complex as down to individuals/personalities/circumstances etc,?
Is that why it is so difficult? To just be in a group when actually it is individual to each person? Should I be looking at each person?

I got told I was too fat to fit in my house by a 7year old the other week I’m within normal bmi even if closer to the overweight than underweight side. Children are taught by their parents who then grow into adults who still have the same view around weight as when they where children.

So when these people are talking about obese discrimination they are really talking about the morbidly obese

Yes, that's what I think too.

"So can it be explained or is to complex as down to individuals/personalities/circumstances etc,?
Is that why it is so difficult? To just be in a group when actually it is individual to each person? Should I be looking at each person?"

I can't actually tell if you're being serious or not.

No honest sincerely asking. Apologies if that came across otherwise.

The times I was overweight I discriminated against myself. Withdrew from friends, partner and family, my self esteem next to nothing. In all honesty this was more damaging than others discriminating me. I felt judged by others but I do think that was more in my own head

Half of doctors? Half of teachers?

Very dubious. They could have spoken to 10 people in each profession. I wouldn't take that study in and of itself too seriously.

I've been both (BMI 18 -37) and to be honest I didn't notice much difference in the way I was treated. Can't remember any abuse from family members. I did feel much worse in myself when I was obese though.
I was a nurse once, way back in the 80's when obesity rates were much lower, and I think there was a certain level of annoyance towards some obese patients, rather than revulsion. Mainly because of the lifting involved and the risk of injury (no hoists then). You see literally everything as a nurse, don't think anyone would see obesity in itself as being repulsive.

I seem to have been on or off a diet my whole life. 100% I feel there is a massive difference in the way you are treated if fat or slim. I've always wondered why the bigger you become and the more space you take up the more invisible you become in the world.

Anyone who overweight or fat will be familiar with the body check disgust look. Its a quick body scan and flicker of revulsion. And no - I am not projecting. Its not everyone, its not one gender over another. I don't even know if it's a conscious thing. I was definitely more visible, more popular when I was slimmer with men and women. Sometimes I think people don't want to associate with fat people because they are afraid they will catch it. Being fat is a very real fear and a fat person is visible reminder of what they don't want to become.

This thread is full of people who don't want to take responsibility for their weight. Calories In calories out, it's not hard.

I have swung between a size 12 and 22 throughout my life, though more at the upper end in event years since I have up dieting. I have spent much more time overweight/ obese than a normal weight and I know objectively that I am treated worse when I am fat.

However, despite this and being physically more uncomfortable when bigger, I really don't like being at the lower end of those sizes. I find it uncomfortable and I am not used to it. I get quite frightened for some reason. It is quite an interesting psychological reaction and I am sure has contributed to the inevitable and repeated weight gains after each significant weight loss.

noeffingidea I think you’re onto something there. I think it must be terribly frustrating to be in the medical profession and dealing with people who refuse to take responsibility for their health, whether that’s people who won’t give up smoking, drugs, alcohol and of course those who won’t take care of their diet.

Sure, there are some people for whom weight gain is inevitable due to medication, inability to exercise etc but I’d guess that almost everyone knows someone who won’t even try to live a better lifestyle.

Some nurses and doctors are obese! The irony.

*All people are created equal—that is, unless they’re fat (71 Posts)
Add message | Report | Message poster phlirty Tue 30-Oct-18 17:10:19
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Sorry but I absolutely don't agree with this, reasons below.

Research reveals that weight discrimination is hurled at people from all directions: - Indeed - and I'm sure research would show that 'thin' people are hurled abuse too - too skinny' 'more meat on a bone'

More than half of doctors described their overweight patients as ugly, awkward and non-compliant with treatment. Nearly one-quarter of nurses admitted to feeling repulsed by their obese patients. *if that is true that's disgusting, however, I'm amazed working in a hospital how many nurses are overweight/obese. I'd like to see the evidence though that any health professional called their patient ugly - if true they should be struck off.

Nearly 30 percent of teachers said that becoming obese was "the worst thing that can happen to someone."* Really? so child abuse? anorexia? rape? domestic violence? 30% of teachers think that? I would worry if my child was still in school with that rational - jeez

It's a bit of weirdly worded study. I mean, who cares if your doctor thinks you are "ugly". You aren't looking to date them. Actually I think my doctor is ugly (no offence to him, he's just not my type) but what an earth would that matter?

What they should have tried to find out if whether fat people are treated the same. And I don't think they are, but this study doesn't prove it.

Just when we thought we were running out of victims, another group to add to the long list.

Yep being overweight is tough. Up until a year after marriage I was a healthy BMI.
Gained a few stone I guess because I was depressed due to fertility issues.
I fully expected to lose that by breastfeeding and long walks etc. It didn't end up that way. Crash csection etc etc.
Years later a surprise pregnancy happened at my heaviest. I took control and ate healthily and ended pregnancy a stone lighter than before. I was definately treated differently during that pregnancy and not in a good way. I was actually told by midwife that I shouldn't gain any weight.
A few years later I had a hernia. I noticed it after carrying heavy boxes to the charity shop. I also had several other risk factors. However according to the consultant the only explainable reason was my weight. Yet not one hcp gave me any support with weight loss. I resorted to a very unhealthy crash diet to lose weight for op. Surprise surprise it didn't stay off for long.
Back eating well for the most part and lost 12 pounds this month and 2 stone this year. Should have been more but had a blip.
Anyway I average 8 miles walking per day even with a BMI of 37.