To think that the fat you eat is the fat you wear?

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New study finds that fat consumption is the only cause of weight gain

medicalxpress.com/news/2018-07-fat-consumption-weight-gain.html

I know carbs are the villain at the moment, but it's only a matter of time before fat is the villain again.

I am on a low-fat diet and am sticking to that, I think, even though I am unfashionable. For the moment!

"Eat meat. Not too little. Mainly fat."...L. Amber O' Hearn

I progressed from low carb to LCHF to Ketogenic...then a year ago became Carnivore.

No veg or fruit. Only plant derived 'food' is a little fresh ground coffee, tea, black pepper.

I eat meat, fish, sea food, dairy & eggs.

I don't eat poultry anymore as I've not managed to source any that haven't been reared on cereals.

Just sayin😉😁

No, the body uses fats in many different ways, it doesn't automatically store it. Eating too much fat - or carbs which the liver can turn into fat, becomes the fat we wear but without fats, our bodies struggle doing certain things. Obviously certain conditions can make a different ratio better, but personally, a varied enjoyed diet balanced across the macros makes the most sense to me and moving towards that has a been a big help for me.

On low-fat diets, women's estrogen significantly drops as do many other hormones - fats are needed in their production and in moving around the body. Low carb diets also show effects on hormones, particularly the thyroid, as well as the gut and which may not be good.

Both can help some people - bodies are complicated wonderful things - but I think the idea that there is a magic pill/one diet to be marketed & sold to the wider population rather than learning about and how to understand & listen to our bodies has more to do with obesity and many other health problems continuing to rise through all the fads.

Re the cholesterol debate and doing keto / HFLC

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19641727/

I go on a lot of keto forums from the US who get their blood work done regularly and they overwhelmingly report that their bad cholesterol goes down and good cholesterol up.

Our govt advice around fat and cholesterol is questionable at the very least

How much fat would we have eaten in a day in ancient times? We didn't have easy access to dairy and butter and even meat as it was dangerous and difficult to catch.

I eat veg with pure butter on it so makes it high fat

I don't think it would be high fat unless you put loads on. If you are eating a lot of saturated fat then you are very probably increasing your risk of heart disease.

Mooncup...agree. Your CAC score is a better guide than cholesterol.

The slimming world diet is based on calorie control i.e calorie to weight ratio meaning it’s quite high in carbs and low in fat. I lost 6st following this plan and found I ate a more balanced diet and fuller for longer than any other diet I tried. I’ve kept that weight off because once I’d reached the target weight, I introduced slightly more good fats like olive oil and other natural fats.

I honestly believe like other PPs have said (admittedly, I haven’t read the whole thread) that any diet which promotes balance and doesn’t insist that you exclude a food group (ATKINS 😡) will be sustainable.

I agree with you OP. There’s so much that comes in and out of fashion as “the right way”. X

The message that fat is the only cause of weight gain is hugely misleading. These mice were able to regulate their energy intake except when given high fat foods. Then they overate.

I can’t regulate my energy intake unless I eat LCHF. So it turns out I’m the opposite of mice.

Just eat a balanced diet without added crap, and don't be a lazy pig, there is the answer

This. But there's no money to be made with this method is there?

Not really look into keto. Fat is not bad sugar and carbs are supposed to be.

How much fat would we have eaten in a day in ancient times? We didn't have easy access to dairy and butter and even meat as it was dangerous and difficult to catch.

We had access to meat. And we didn't just eat the lean meat, we ate the lot - organs and all. We are omnivores, however unpopular that is. It is noticeable how we do not criticise vegans for being unhealthy when there is a wealth of data that shows it is very bad for your health - even measureable brain shrinkage

Instead we go for meat eaters, when we actually need meat to be healthy.

I appreciate the concerns over animal welfare and therefore support the most ethical ways of farming animals

You're wrong 100% but go ahead..

Which bit is wrong Leapfrog?

You should eat according to your blood type. We are not all supposed to eat the same thing. Some of us have a whiff of rice and bloat and some of people live on rice veg and fish and are fine. Also fasting and eating late factor into results too.

I eat meat, but tiny amounts, not the average amounts HFLC are eating though.

This is really useful in examining what food we are designed to eat

Dungeon

What is CAC?

But the planet isn’t designed to feed as many people as it currently has to. So eating “what we’re designed to eat” may not be sensible.

But the planet isn’t designed to feed as many people as it currently has to. So eating “what we’re designed to eat” may not be sensible.

That seems a strange thing to say. We should eat what we are not designed for, then? And get ill, and create unsustainable health service demands?

People are very ill in our society. Over 60% of adults in the UK have a BMI of over 25, which causes massive health problems (despite the young people who will now come on an tell me they are healthy and have a BMI of 25+). Which is more of a drain? Trying to sustain an ill population or trying to find a solution to raise animals in a way that suits our ethical requirements of today?

Scifi101...Coronary Artery Calcium Scan (CAC)

watch
The Widowmaker...a documentary film on Youtube

Try to eat mostly fresh fruits and veg. Whole grains and a bit of healthy protein. Dairy and eggs as tolerated. (Cows give milk and cream which makes butter, so butterfat has been available if there were cows for milk.)

The biggest problem, to me is the processed food with additives. Try to eat "clean."
I go with 3 bites of desserts bc after 3 bites, you stop tasting it.

I think that we consume too much and that has an effect on both the planet and our health. Switching what we eat to more meat and dairy, as you’ll find on many LCHF blogs is not going to change that.

People have poor health for many reasons. It’s disingenuous (or a bit bonkers) to suggest that LCHF is the answer to that.

And I’m not young and my bmi is under 25.

My point being that the answer to overconsumption isn’t eat MORE of anything. And the focus of Atkins etc being “limitless” butter, “limitless” steak. People just want a way to lose weight while still overeating. It works a treat, I’ll give it that; by forcing your body into starvation mode while still allowing you to eat a lot. That’s why I don’t like it.

I think you misunderstand what happens on LCHF - hunger reduces, people don't eat more, they usually eat less. As said many times, its really hard to overeat.

The planet being filled up with mass grain production is equally as destructive

Most grain production globally is used to feed cattle, not humans.