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To think that the fat you eat is the fat you wear?

503 replies

florafawna · 30/10/2018 08:35

New study finds that fat consumption is the only cause of weight gain

medicalxpress.com/news/2018-07-fat-consumption-weight-gain.html

I know carbs are the villain at the moment, but it's only a matter of time before fat is the villain again.

I am on a low-fat diet and am sticking to that, I think, even though I am unfashionable. For the moment! Grin

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WithAFaeryHandInHand · 31/10/2018 18:47

In response to a pp who rightly said fat does not have to come from animals, so therefore “high fat” doesn’t have to mean more meat an animal produce.

Most LCHFers that I know eat a lot of animal produce. I know some don’t and good for them, but I do think the WOE encourages overconsumption of meat and animal produce.

If people did what I think they’re meant to with that WOE; up their healthy fats, (not including animal fats), and greens, without upping the meat and dairy etc, then I wouldn’t have any issue with it.

But, based on people I know who do this WOE, it’s a lot of bacon sprinkled here and there, bulletproof coffees with a lot of butter every morning, (and butter requires a lot of milk to make it; it’s not like drinking a bit of milk in your tea), veggies in butter and covered with cheese etc. Whole packs of ham / salami for lunch instead of a sandwich. Going out for a meal, instead of pizza or pasta with a bit of meat in it, it’s a large hunk of meat with salad.

Plant fats, like nuts and avocados aren’t freely available on LCHF diets ime, because too much of them would tip a low carber into moderate carb territory. Whereas fatty beef is allowed in limitless quantities. That’s not to say every low carber would eat a lot of meat, but it does encourage someone who maybe is a bit greedy and likes to feel stuffed after a meal to go nuts on the meat. And I don’t think it’s good at all. It might be fine for their waistline, but not for the planet.

starfish2020 · 31/10/2018 18:50

I did a lot of reading and decided that processed foods are just rubbish
I eat nuts and some meat, lots of plants and some fruits.
It works for me and now I got my mum doing it she actually lowered her cholesterol even though she went against what she was advised by her doctor

starfish2020 · 31/10/2018 18:52

But it is worth remembering that your lifestyle and activity levels have a lot to do with it too.
I reversed my diabetes and I am more than happy with it

ModreB · 31/10/2018 18:53

The cause of weight gain can be multiple. But ultimately, if you consume more calories than you use, you will put on weight. No matter how those calories are consumed.

I must admit, I ignore all diets and eat a diet high in vegatables, meat and natural fats like butter, olive oil and lard. I fed my 3 ds's on the same, and none are overweight, all cook their own food. All are very fit and healthy and active. DH and I are not overweight and walk all the time.

I personally think it's portion size is an issue. A meal I cooked for 6 people 10 years ago is being marketed this week for 3 or 4, so it is a bigger portion per person.

starfish2020 · 31/10/2018 18:53

@useruseruseruseruseruseruser

Whose advice DO we take then? (Serious question).
I think you need to find what work for you but in reality I think reducing or cutting out processed foods and increasing your excercise / activity levels are the key

Dungeondragon15 · 31/10/2018 18:53

It works for me and now I got my mum doing it she actually lowered her cholesterol even though she went against what she was advised by her doctor

But what you have just described is pretty much what is advised by the NHS and BHF.

starfish2020 · 31/10/2018 18:55

Not really
They advise low fat and I do not eat anything low fat

WithAFaeryHandInHand · 31/10/2018 18:56

starfish

You said you eat a lot of vegetables and some fruit. They are nearly all low fat!

starfish2020 · 31/10/2018 18:56

Also I really hate how they promote artificial sweeteners Confused

Caprisunorange · 31/10/2018 18:57

You don’t eat any fruit or vegetables? Or do you think low fat means Muller lites?

WithAFaeryHandInHand · 31/10/2018 18:57

Sorry; “lots of plants”. Most plants are low fat.

starfish2020 · 31/10/2018 18:57

@WithAFaeryHandInHand
But my diet is not consisting of that only

starfish2020 · 31/10/2018 18:58

I eat veg with pure butter on it so makes it high fat

WithAFaeryHandInHand · 31/10/2018 18:58

Low fat does not have to mean sweeteners either. But yes, I have seen the nhs promoting switches like sugary drinks for diet drinks.

WithAFaeryHandInHand · 31/10/2018 18:59

Ah ok, I didn’t realise you had butter on your veg! You’re absolutely right of corae. That’s not low fat!

WithAFaeryHandInHand · 31/10/2018 18:59

Corae? Course!

starfish2020 · 31/10/2018 19:00

“WithAFaeryHandInHand

Sorry; “lots of plants”. Most plants are low fat.”

True but I add butter to make up for the fat

Caprisunorange · 31/10/2018 19:00

Pure butter Grin no, it doesn’t make it high fat.

Dungeondragon15 · 31/10/2018 19:00

They advise low fat and I do not eat anything low fat

The advise low saturated fat as this will increase "bad" cholesterol which is known to increase the risk of heart disease. Plants and fruit and nuts are not high in saturated fat. As for meat, it depends on how much you eat and how lean it is.

starfish2020 · 31/10/2018 19:02

“Corae“ that could be my new word lol
Honestly though people are different and we all can not eat the same and be the same
I just speak from experience and lots of research

Caprisunorange · 31/10/2018 19:03

But it’s not research is it? It’s just the diet industry, the same one that you are deriding when it gives the results opposite to your favoured way of eating. You have literally no idea whether this is good for your health or not. No one does

lubeybooby · 31/10/2018 19:07

OP fat doesn't make you fat - too many calories do. Doesn't matter where the calories come from - and fat is satiating and generally a good thing compared to sugary shite.

lubeybooby · 31/10/2018 19:08

oh and low fat diets cause gallstones which even the NHS admits now (finally) so be careful

useruseruseruseruseruseruser · 31/10/2018 19:18

One of the main things you can do to lower your chances of getting gallstones is to adopt a healthy, balanced diet and reduce the number of high-cholesterol foods you eat, as cholesterol is thought to contribute to the formation of gallstones

www.nhs.uk/conditions/acute-cholecystitis/

Dungeondragon15 · 31/10/2018 19:23

I don't think that low fat diets have been recommended since the 80s have they? The recommendation for health now is for people to eat low saturated fat not a diet that is low in fat overall.

It's interesting that people keep suggesting that the increase in obesity is due to low fat diet as when that was popular in the 80s there was far less obesity than there is today. The low carb diet has been popular since the late 90s and yet obesity keeps rising.

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