To think that the fat you eat is the fat you wear?

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New study finds that fat consumption is the only cause of weight gain

medicalxpress.com/news/2018-07-fat-consumption-weight-gain.html

I know carbs are the villain at the moment, but it's only a matter of time before fat is the villain again.

I am on a low-fat diet and am sticking to that, I think, even though I am unfashionable. For the moment!

Yeah, I think if you are doing a high fat diet, you really should have your cholesterol checked. It may be dangerously high!

@AnonaMouse1 The OP isn't suggesting that fruit and veg come in a low or high fat option. She's talking if a diet which is naturally low in fat such as fruit and veg (all fruit and veg aside from olives, avocado), rice, dried pasta, beans and other pulses, white fish, chicken breast.

As opposed to a high fat diet such as butter, cream, fatty cuts of meat.

Some people might feel gross on a diet high in animal fats. I love it. I love full fat milk, butter and cream. I find it much easier to cut down on carbs than to cut down on animal fats.
I also exercise a lot and am a lot fitter than most people my age.
I'm interested in the research on cholesterol. Good cholesterol and bad cholesterol and the effect of exercise on it. I don't know what my cholesterol level is. I don't feel a particular need to know although I'm slightly interested.

I love fat too but am slim. It's all rather confusing.

I cannot lose weight eating low fat foods and carbs, it doesn't matter what I do it just doesn't shift.
Cutting the carbs right back and upping the fats (avocado/butter/nuts mainly but comes from cheese/cream/red meat) I have lost weight well and feel healthier for it.
I'm exactly the same! And it was two different hospital consultant specialists who recommended going low Carb and high fat/proteins to me x

Surely too many calories = stored as fat- doesn’t really matter where they are from..

I agree that low carb works - it also means you have to cut a lot of 'baddies' from your diet, including alcohol, anything ending in 'ose' - as this will be sugars.
I have tried to make Slimming world dieting work for me as it suits may taste - but not my body :-( I cut carbs and I lose weight it's that simple! But because I can eat protien, fish cheese meat and eggs, with practically any vegetable, I am always satisfied. That's what works for me - but obviously not for you? Slimming World advises 'no fat' yoghurts, spreads, mayonnaise etc - but what are in those products? Nothing much that is natural. I seem to be lamblasting Slimming World, but it's only by comparison, I have nothing personal against them, it just never worked for me :-(

I love fat too but am slim. It's all rather confusing

I got very slim on HFLC but I was too worried about my cholesterol to continue. Just use calorie counting and willpower now.

Slim is important, but not the whole picture. After all, a lot of smokers were slim and smoked in lieu of eating. They still had rotten arteries and heart attacks though.

My DD was put on a sugar, starch and grain-free diet for health reasons. She was encouraged to eat a lot of protein and fat. Her calorie intake increased and her activity level remained the same (bedridden due to health and disability). She went from a size 22 and morbidy obese to a size 14 and in the healthy range for her height. While eating MORE. She didn't do it particularly for her weight, though that was a concern, but to reduce her inflammation and pain. Not saying it would work for everyone as a nutritionalist tailored this specifically to her symptoms but also prescribed various supplements. Certainly proved beyond a doubt, to me, that the old chestnut, 'eat less calories to lose weight etc.' is way too simplistic.

you know that 'perfect weight' was invented between the wars by actuaries trying to work out 'average lifespans' - they came up with a weight that we were 'supposed' to be for a longer life. Completely plucked out of the air (as people were dying younger as a result of the wars, they had no records to rely on).

Overnight the weightloss industry was born! They realised that they could sell almost anything as 'weightloss' food - if people lost weight, they could claim success, if they didn't, well there was a captive market! They knew that fat was more calorific, so pushed a LowFat diet. And in the decades since then, we have got fatter and fatter. Because there is no evidence that LowFat is any good for you.

We don't know how to listen to our bodies any more;

Sell 'Lowfat' cereals (full of sugar) and by mid-morning you are craving a biscuit because your bloodsugar has crashed. Sell Lowfat biscuits.
Have a sandwich for lunch - sell low fat spread (even rats won't eat this!) and low fat mayo. [boak] By mid-afternoon you will have another biscuit, due to the sugar crash.
Low-fat high carb dinner. Followed by cake/pudding/biscuit. With LowFat custard. Your blood sugars are all over the place.

Honestly, a High fat breakfast (eggs, or continental meat and cheese, or my favourite, High Fat yoghurt with crushed Linseeds) and you will be full till lunch. No mid morning biscuit, no sugar crash
Lunch - salad with meat/cheese/eggs/fish and fullfat mayo or Olive oil. Lovely, tasty, filling, healthy. No biscuits, don't need them,
Dinner - meat and low carb veg (Cauli, brocolli, green beans, swede, celeriac, kale etc) - filling and healthy. Plenty of veg for your 5-a-day.

Do this for a week and then try a biscuit. Guaranteed, it will be too sweet.

LethalDrizzle - not confusing at all. Eating fat means you are not eating biscuits and sweet stuff in between meals.

'New study finds that fat consumption is the only cause of weight gain'

Anything that claims to be 'the only cause' for a problem like weight gain in the human population is should be regarded with suspicion.

I think that we are all different - even if our biology is similar- because of our brains/minds. (Experimental mice don't get much chance to select what they like or reject what they don't like and are not forced to avoid certain food groups that they serve to other mice !)

Different ways of solving the problem are going to be necessary. If low fat works for you - that is great! If high fibre works for you - that is great! If LCHF works for you - that is just as great. Choose the tools that work for you.

In the end, if you have been overweight, you need to develop habits that lead you to eat less and have more veg, move more, and be happy.

Here’s an interesting article from the BBC

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46031332

A study of two million people found that

“Researchers found that, from the age of 40, people at the higher end of the healthy Body Mass Index (BMI) range had the lowest risk of dying from disease.”

no biscuits, don’t need them

Trouble with that, cider, is that very few people eat biscuits because they need them or through actual true hunger. Being ‘full’ won’t fix the issues related to emotional eating or bored eating, or any of the myriad reasons people eat overeat sweet, carby (delicious) foods.

I eat low-fat.

Do HFLC people keep an eye on their numbers and know their heart attack risk? I am 50yo and was just told mind was 1.9%. Doc was pleased.

"What is high cholesterol?

Cholesterol is a fatty substance found in the blood. Too much ‘bad’ cholesterol can increase your risk of developing CVD. It can cause atheroma to build up inside artery walls, preventing enough blood reaching the heart or other parts of the body. If a piece of atheroma breaks off, a blood clot can form, blocking blood supply to the heart (a heart attack) or the brain (a stroke)

Cholesterol is measured by looking at your HDL (good) cholesterol and your non-HDL (bad) cholesterol. Non-HDL cholesterol should be lower than 4mmol/L (millimols per litre of blood), and your total cholesterol should be no higher than 5 mmol/L.

How would I know I have high cholesterol?

You may not be able to tell that you have high cholesterol That’s why it’s a really good idea to have an NHS Health Check (available in England only, or a Keep Well health check in Scotland) if you’re over 40. If you’ve already been diagnosed with CVD, your cholesterol levels should be checked regularly anyway.

You can help to reduce your cholesterol by:

reducing the saturated fat (butter, cheese, full-fat milk and meat) you eat
replacing saturated fats with unsaturated fats such as olive, rapeseed or sunflower oil and oily fish and nuts"

www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/medical/risk-factors

Depends on the type of fats - there are good ones and bad ones.

I eat a mixture of low/full fat dairy. Skimmed milk, fat free cottage cheese and natural Greek yogurt but I do eat a bit of full fat cheese occasionally - life is too short not to. Also eat plenty of good plant fats - avocado, nuts, seeds.

Rubbish
Total rubbish
I followed a high fat moderate protein and low carb diet aka ketogenic
I lost 2st and kept it off for well over 2 years now.
So no fat is not the problem!
Speaking from experience

@user59589098
Again a load of nonsense
My mother has higher cholesterol and eats low fat diet
I have perfect cholesterol but I do eat healthy fats
Margarine and low fat yogs etc are not natural and I will never eat it again

It's all relative, one duet does not fit all, I can't lose weight counting calories, low fat diets but when i gave the keto, low carbs, high fat plan i lost half a stone in a month and find it easier to maintain the weight loss, but it works for me but we're not all the same, horses for courses, whatever working for you.

Again a load of nonsense

You are at odds with the British Heart Foundation, then. Just sayin...

Margarine and low fat yogs etc are not natural and I will never eat it again

Me neither. Eating low-fat does not mean eating rubbish like that. Not at all!

Again, I KNOW how easy it is to lose on HFLC. I have tried it myself. A lot of people found smoking helped them be slim too!

Cholesterol raises with age too, so a young person might appear to get away with eating lots of animal fats...for a while. I am 50 with a risk of 1.9%.

There is a lot to be said about the NHS guidelines for healthy diet which imo is rather dangerous and not healthy
Same for British heart foundation and any other government body

Whose advice DO we take then? (Serious question).