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To think that the fat you eat is the fat you wear?

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florafawna · 30/10/2018 08:35

New study finds that fat consumption is the only cause of weight gain

medicalxpress.com/news/2018-07-fat-consumption-weight-gain.html

I know carbs are the villain at the moment, but it's only a matter of time before fat is the villain again.

I am on a low-fat diet and am sticking to that, I think, even though I am unfashionable. For the moment! Grin

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UserX · 30/10/2018 20:34

Fat adapted means that your body can actually use your fat stores for energy.

What do you think your body uses for energy when you eat fewer calories than you burn?

mooncuplanding · 30/10/2018 20:56

What do you think your body uses for energy when you eat fewer calories than you burn?

Your body will always take straight glucose first (carbs) but once you’ve used up all your glycogen stores (2-4 hours) if you then replenish with more carbs (craving), you’ll simply keep using the glucose available and not touching the fat cells.

The irony here is that by calorie restriction, you are more than likely forcing the body to use ketones (fat burning) by not giving it enough immediate glucose. But the thing that happens if you reduce carbs as a way of life is then your body becomes more efficient at producing ketones and burning fat, hence all the benefits I’ve described. You don’t get the discomfort of hanger, sugar lows, and can go long periods of time without food, endurance sport performance increases, you eat less due to not craving the sugar/carb hit

In short, you’ll use your fat energy more efficiently if you restrict carbs (and insulin)

UserX · 30/10/2018 21:06

Your body will always take straight glucose first (carbs) but once you’ve used up all your glycogen stores (2-4 hours)

Where does your body store glycogen?

PickAChew · 30/10/2018 23:33

Whole milk in the UK is 4% fat and 5% sugars, so it is impossible for it to become 12% sugars, simply by removing the fat

Gwenhwyfar · 31/10/2018 01:26

"Whole milk in the UK is 4% fat and 5% sugars, so it is impossible for it to become 12% sugars, simply by removing the fat"

Skimmed milk is not 12% sugars though.

Caprisunorange · 31/10/2018 07:48

Full fat and skimmed milk. The difference is negligible

To think that the fat you eat is the fat you wear?
To think that the fat you eat is the fat you wear?
Nottheduchessoftransiyvaniaaaa · 31/10/2018 07:53

I’ve tried both and the only one that works for me is reduced fat and potion control. I don’t mean no fat, but cutting out really fatty foods like sausages, and making my own sauces etc.
Low carbs did absolutely nothing, I lost in the first few weeks and then didn’t lose again. I think it all depends how your body metabolises your meal.

SoupDragon · 31/10/2018 07:56

Full fat and skimmed milk. The difference is negligible

Yeah, that was pointed out earlier. Apparently it isn't negligible and still makes skimmed milk something evil and packed with sugar.

Nottheduchessoftransiyvaniaaaa · 31/10/2018 08:00

Can’t believe people do such extreme things to their body!
I eat 1800 calories a day and am losing 2lbs a week, as a constant. It’s slow going but steady.

Caprisunorange · 31/10/2018 08:11

Sorry soup that was in response to Pickchews subsequent post

ferrier · 31/10/2018 08:13

What was the extreme thing nottheduchess?

phlirty · 31/10/2018 09:03

Interesting about CHD (Coronary Heart Disease) and how we were on the right track cutting back on animal fats.

"Finland had gained notoriety from having the highest rates of CHD mortality in the world. Health officials responded aggressively in the 1970s and implemented regional demonstration projects (e.g., the North Karelia project) and national campaigns to reduce risk factors, especially dairy fat 27 These efforts yielded steep declines in CHD mortality by the late 1970s"

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3682614/

QuimReaper · 31/10/2018 09:14

@UserX in your liver I believe

BIWI · 31/10/2018 10:52

Glycogen is stored mainly in the liver but also skeletal muscle

Caprisunorange · 31/10/2018 11:26

in marathon training it’s generally accepted that your body depleted your liver of glycogen and moves onto your fat at the 20 mile mark Hmm not sure how you low carber’s are managing it after 3-4 hours of doing nothing.

noeffingidea · 31/10/2018 11:28

Nottheduchess I suppose I do a similar type of thing. I eat bread every single day (sometimes 4or 5 slices) and still lose weight slowly but steadily. I've never felt the need to go on a specific diet, just eat a variety of food that suits you, and exercise as much as you can.

WhyDidIEatThat · 31/10/2018 11:28

They’ve probably already finished the marathon by hours 3 and 4.

noeffingidea · 31/10/2018 11:31

As for the 'one meal a day' thing, a lot of people used to do this (though often supplemented by sugary tea and ciggies, lol), it's not that extreme. I don't think I could eat 1000 calories in one meal now though, so I wouldn't try it myself.

Caprisunorange · 31/10/2018 13:10

Yes but unless you’re actually doing a marathon that’s irrelevant isn’t it?

Junkmail · 31/10/2018 13:31

I eat once a day. Not by design—I’m just not hungry. I’m fat adapted. I think if you’ve never experienced this of course you will think it’s faddy/crazy/unsustainable/extreme. There’s nothing extreme about it—it feels entirely natural for me now. I stopped feeling like I needed breakfast so I stopped eating it. Then I gradually stopped feeling like I need lunch so I stopped eating it. Being fat adapted has entirely changed my attitude towards food so I never “break” and binge because I don’t feel deprived. I feel great.

I’m a pescatarian and eat fish around twice a week. The rest of my meals are vegetarian. I drink soy milk only (in tea) and eat cheese, green vegetables, live yogurt, stuff like that every day. I know that it sounds terribly restrictive to someone who has never tried this WOE but I think that’s the thing—it’s hard to imagine eating this way but in my experience it completely changes the way you view food. I have always been a lover of crisps. I don’t even want them now. My body doesn’t want them. That’s why it’s sustainable and doesn’t feel extreme.

Honestly if you do nothing else I would advise giving up sugar and gluten and vegetable oils. There’s a lot of literature on the damage these can cause to the body because we haven’t evolved to process the amounts that are in a typical “western diet”. That alone would really improve satiety and general well-being.

WhyDidIEatThat · 31/10/2018 13:45

Irrelevant probably, I just didn’t appreciate the sheer magic of carbs until I ran longer distances. Not just for energy while running but swift recovery after a marathon.

Plessis · 31/10/2018 13:49

Fat is fashionable atm, but when I did lchf I felt really disgusting eating all the animal fat and butter. I find a low fat diet, with fat coming mainly from olive oil, much more satisfying and healthy. My cholestrol has dropped back to normal levels too. It was 5.2 when I was eating lchf (I don't know what it was before that though) and its 4.3 now!

Plessis · 31/10/2018 13:52

Full fat and skimmed milk. The difference is negligible

apart from skimmed milk has almost half the calories of full fat.

dontalltalkatonce · 31/10/2018 13:59

When did so many people become so utterly whacked about food? Whatever happened to relying on your brain and common sense rather than all these studies and research and guidelines made up by people who don't have a clue who you are? FFS. Eat a balanced diet, everything in moderation.

piscis · 31/10/2018 14:57

I am a bit Hmm about some comments of people saying high fat is gross and then they go on listing animal products such as bacon, cheese...you can eat a high fat diet without all that crap. Think avocados, nuts, olive oil...not all fat comes from animal products and is unhealthy

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