to think that your female reproductive organs actually matter?

[Pamspeople]

Just read this on a Labour Party Facebook page. Am gobsmacked - the very few issues that pertain to having a vagina womb and ovaries ??? -

What has anyone said that is hatred of trans people? I don’t hate trans people in the slightest. What I hate is male violence against women and girls.
Sadly there are men who will use any loophole to gain access to women and girls.

Why is that ASM? Most infertile women still have reproductive organs.

Bat shit crazy!!

the hysteria really reminds me of the homophobia of a few years ago. OMG THE WORLD WILL END IF WE RECOGNIZE GAY PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS MARRIAGE CAN ONLY BE BETWEEN A MAN AND WOMAN THE WORLD IS ENDING blah blah.

yawn.

And btw we will never adopt the ridiculous ‘cis’ pro-noun and by trying to enforce it agresively you will continue to alienate women and any support women may have had for you.

ASMRtist Did you forget to type /s? Its easily done.

I'm not anti-trans at all. Do you see anyone here objecting to getting changed/ sharing a hospital ward/ compteting against a trans-man?

I think the way you have worded your thread title is wry insensitive towards infertile woman. HTH.

I think the opposite. The one thing that infertile women I know want more than anything else is more research done into female reproductive organs. To them the female reproductive organs (and why theirs don’t work) matter more than anything else. Why is it so difficult for a woman suffering from issues with their reproductive organs to get decent care. Instead of investigating it is lumped under “women’s problems” and we are all expected to get on with it. No matter how much pain we are in. No matter if it means that we are unable to conceive the children that we want.

Don't be ridiculous ASM.

How many times.

This is not trans hatred

This is about the protection of women’s spaces and the protection of young girls.

Do you need this spelt out more clearly to you?

"I totally don't hate trans people, I just dont think transwomen should have access to women's spaces just in case they fall ontop of a woman and rape her because they're really rapey men". DIs. GUSt. ING.

No. It’s not that anyone thinks that transwomen are rapey men. Rapey men are rapey men.

A penis in a safe space with young girls and women is not acceptable. It’s not appropriate. It’s not right and it’s not hysterical.

I don’t give a shit how ‘right on’ you feel you are.

This are basic safeguarding standards.

My rights are to be shared. I'd rather share a changing room with a trans woman than a transphobe.

The truth isn't phobic. Ovaries, wombs and vaginas are not fashion accessories.

I call myself a woman. I think trans women are women too.

There is nothing to stop the woke using the mens room.

There is nothing to stop the woke using the mens room.

Yes kids. Get over there and start calling them cis-men. Good luck !

Or just campaign for a third space, and leave us vagcentric bigots to it.

We won’t mind any more than you.

I honestly can’t get past ciswomen and have no idea who they are referring to and won’t engage with that definition of whatever it is.

That's super Feminist4 off you trot to the shared space with the transwomen (I'll keep my fingers crossed for you that it's not Karen, or Jacinta, or Dayna, or Jess waving it about, or Aimee 's dad David in his nappy and little girl outfit in there with you.) I'll stay in my single SEX space thanks. And don't bother coming back with the usual homophobic guff about lesbians being in there too with their risky lesbian-ness. To my certain knowledge precisely zero adult human female homosexuals have raped anyone with their penis. I'm sick of the comparisons to homosexual rights because the homophobia against lesbians is right through the trans movement like a stick of rock.

Are we getting to the point where girls will be put in with men by some people to "make a point "?

The photo upthread is of Karen white is it? The absolute insistence that there can be no risk, it feels like girls are going to be told by some people, that they must, and that they will know that they must not say anything, if anything happens. Because girls will know that these are men, and they have been told to take their clothes off with them and pretend that this is normal. There's a subtext here. And what can a girl in this situation say? She can't say anything. Who can she tell? No one, not those who should have been looking out for her.

Creepy predatory men are everywhere. This is simply a fact. Now we tell girls that they must pretend they are ok with having them in places where they should not be.

Girls are taught not to make a fuss.

This is all a gift to creepy pervy men. Why are they being given this gift?