To ask what people are afraid of with a People's Vote?

[Bearbehind]

Estimates reckon there were nearly a million people at the Peoples Vote march yesterday so support for it is high.

Why is it such a threat to others though?

If you're so convinced Leaving is the right thing to do for the country, why wouldn't you want that to be endorsed now people have a clearer idea of what is to come?

Or is it that you're worried Leave would now lose as it's been made clear there are no upsides?

In which case why do you want to go ahead with it anyway?

If your that worried about your medicines and other assorted scaremongering then bog off to Brussels.

I'm just going to repeat that, in case anybody missed it the first time.

Oh come on, everyone. Are you really surprised at 10degrees last post, given his other aggressive outpourings?
He's cut from the same cloth as that MP who called a hospitalised child a 'pathetic cretin'.

I really hope 10 is a shill.

Because I'd like think arrogant twats like that can't possibly be for real.

Nah, I think they're definitely real.

And that they really mean it when they say

If your that worried about your medicines and other assorted scaremongering then bog off to Brussels.

If your that worried about your medicines and other assorted scaremongering then bog off to Brussels

But I thought I was remainers who were aggressive?

I can only hope that @10degreestostarboard got carried away. An apology would help. There has been real anguish in this thread. No one could fail to be moved.
It's one thing slagging off preppers like me. This is a step too far.

When I voted, I always thought out meant out of it all, could never see a way for 27 people and then all the parliaments agreeing.
You think us lot in here can't agree how the heck will the EU.

The problem is mummmy neither you, nor any other Leaver actually thought about his 'out of it all' would actually work.

And it doesn't work.

Because you don't mean 'out of it all'

You mean 'out of the bits you don't like'.

You think us lot in here can't agree how the heck will the EU

The EU 27 are very much in agreement. The issue is that the U.K. is trying to figure out how to have their cake and eat it.

No bear I truly want out of it all, we make the rules for us...

This isn't about just rules.

Do you want to stop the UK trading with the EU countries on preferential terms?

Are you happy to accept the consequences of that?

Do you even know what those consequences are?

But mummmy2017 as has been said innumerable times we won't make the rules. The WTO will make the rules.

Apologise?

I can double down if that helps. Shame on you for putting your European ideology ahead of supporting a democratic decision made by your actual country. Shame on you for subverting that through scaremongering and constant negative whining. If the continent of Europe (you will note we are separated by a large geographical feature called ‘water’) is such a paradise then don’t let the door hit you on the way out...

We made a democratic decision in 1975 to remain in the EU. Why are we ignoring that democratic decision?

Or is a democracy made up of constantly changing a revising decisions?

Mousse

As you well know - the 1975 vote wasn’t to join the eu.

twitter.com/judi_sutherland/status/1028980804905517057

Here's one for "The EU was only supposed to be a Common Market and now it does all this other stuff." No. We knew what we were getting into from the outset.

@mummmy2017 Here's what sovereignty and 'taking back control' looks like. Do you have any problems with the WTO?

mlexmarketinsight.com/insights-center/editors-picks/brexit/europe/russia-blocks-uks-post-brexit-tariff-proposal-at-wto?fbclid=IwAR2LfuT9gWflZLB2kitMYBMlNI0RhWw03MyC9TUy6maPOe2hOQ7ZDK7GsZM

It was not much like the present EU in 1975 but quite a different proposition: known as the a Common Market, officially called the European Economic Community, with only eight other Western European countries as members.

The elements song

You need a history lesson - 1993 is when the eu grew it’s current arms and legs beyond being a trading bloc

I was young in the 90s but I don’t recall a vote on that substantial change of eu direction...

Perhaps I missed it!

If your (sic) that worried about your medicines and other assorted scaremongering then bog off to Brussels

I think it was @BoneyBackJefferson who said that Remainers were rude and aggressive and were the reason for Leavers not posting. I think this gem from @10degreestostarboard disproves that.

BTW, we might have to go to Europe for a decent job as most of ours will be exported. But we won't be allowed to because we are losing FOM. It's not exactly rocket surgery.

Ted Heath was at the total enthusiast end of the spectrum about European integration. Normally such pronouncements by politicians fall far short of being realised!

It seemed to me an idealistic, maybe noble goal back then and the likes of Tony Benn and Peter Shore, seemed to my young self to be worryworts, yet they speak more clearly to me now.

You do know WTO is not going to be for ever..

I don't think Mummy can read

Otherwise she would have been able to read in the photo that has just been posted (and to which presumably she is responding) that Heath was pointing out in 1973 that it was more than just an economic community. Indeed, it was explicitly within the Treat of Rome that we signed up to when we joined.

And just in case Mummy hasn't read any history (or maybe she is too young), it was Maggie Thatcher who was the driving force behind the establishment of a true single market, in furtherance of those aims.

Sorry, I apologise , it was Oatsandbarley who apparently read.

(On the app, so I can't see the post as I'm replying )