AIBU to ask whether the people of the UK needs to take the threat of a no deal Brexit seriously?

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This is just today’s Brexit related business news.

I fully expect this thread to be moved quick-smart over to the bowels of the Brexit board but a subject with implications so serious for the UK deserves a wider audience.

The Govt is making a massive hash of the negotiations and businesses operating in the UK - providing many 1000s of jobs - have no ability to plan in this climate.

Is this the Brexit you voted for?

If you voted to remain - there’s a people’s vote march this Saturday in London.

If you voted to leave but are unhappy with the PM’s proposals - there’s a people’s vote march this Saturday in London.

If you voted to leave and are happy with developments -

See you over on the Brexit board!

Yawn. Ive changed my vote now. Id vote to leave! I wanted to stay within the eu but now think we better alone.

Really london?
I’m wondering what made y ou change your mind?

Is it all the reports from so many independent bodies such as the IMF telling us how bad it will to have a No Deal or is it the prospect of it Ben able to have enough medicines around I wonder?

If the shit does hit the fan I dread to think how relations will be between family, friends and work colleagues. It got pretty heated during the referendum and just after but right now it’s not even a topic of conversation. I can’t make out if people are just not bothered or if they have decided it’s a subject to avoid.

Unfortunately it will be impossible to avoid if the chaos and misery we have been warned of comes to pass.

BackInTime, all my friends, family and colleagues (the latter spanning 2 companies now) all wanted to leave too. So no damage to relations there :-)

@BackInTime
People feel strongly about the topic so it's too charged to raise in many situations without the possibility of social fallout. While that may be the case; these forums are an opportunity to air your views without real social disruption.

In that vein @londonrach; would be interested in your explanation of your change of mind. It seems counter-intuitive given the accumulated news and evidence of the last ~2 years.

Its the evidence of the last two years that makes me glad people voted to leave. I was vvvvv anti leaving before but made a mistake i know now. May is being silly. We just need to leave. I think if the vote was redone you been shocked as alot of people ive spoken to are now thinking the same. Look at my history people you see i didnt want to leave 2 years ago. I was vvvv anti it!

And what evidence is that specifically *londonrach ? Because I'm not seeing very much to be positive about

What evidence? That May is silly - yes. That Davis was a lazy so and so when it came to negotiating, only attending four times. Yes. That Redwood and Rees-Mogg have so much faith in the UK that they are advising people to invest elsewhere. Yes.

Those sound like good reasons to boot the Government out. Not reasons to leave the EU.

@Londonrach If you think we should ‘just leave’, how do you see things in the UK post Brexit? As you may be aware the government are preparing for mass disruption and economic armageddon. Even Rees-Mogh says it will be at least 50 years before we will see any benefit.

So please share your evidence because I could really use something to be positive about.

We just need to leave
When you realised that membership of the EU costs less than the price of a couple of pints a week, you realised that was too much to pay for peace, FOM, flights, equal rights, food, medicine etc.?

What di you mean ‘just keave’ london??
If it was as easy a step that, I imagine TM wouod have done that a long time ago!

Very interested too at the REASONS why you changed your mind.
(AndThe apparently all the people You know despite polls showing the opposite)

Why did I read london 's post as a Trump voice in my head?

Excellent piece from John Major in the Guardian
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/16/false-promises-brexit-john-major

We just need to leave

Leave to where? we ve not even renegotiated our seat on the WTO yet? & have car plants relocating, no eurasmus, no euratom, UK driver licences invalid inc Lorry drivers etc etc

Any Leavers crying Project Fear 2 need to look at who is delivering these notices? none other than Dominic Raab, a well known Brexiteer.

I suspect you are just lying in your original post.

Major writes "Those who persuaded a deceived population to vote to be weaker and poorer will never be forgiven".

Damn right they won't.

As you may be aware the government are preparing for mass disruption and economic Armageddon

Good for them - they dealt with the post vote Armageddon so well that I didn't even notice there was one - either that, or it didn't happen.

Those sound like good reasons to boot the Government out

Except that in a YouGov Poll this year, only 34% of Labour voters thought that Jeremy Corbyn was the preferred leader for Brexit. Slight problem there.

Did I mention Jeremy Corbyn???

Who were you planning on taking over?

That is for the electorate to decide. There is dead wood in all parties, although some parties have more.

We already voted last year - but current polls say Conservatives 41%, Labour 37% and Lib Dems 9%. A spectacular Lib Dem resurgence looks unlikely.

we just need to leave
yup, to be controlled by Putin and Trump and the 480 bureaucrats of the WTO
taking back control
and handing it to where exactly

'post vote armageddon'? That was never a thing. This is not about perception. It's not about fear and it can't be spirited away with a natty turn of phrase. This is about actual money changing hands for actual stuff actual people need, and procedures being in place to do so.

Or, you know, not.

post vote armageddon'? That was never a thing
Were you hiding under a rock?

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/20/brexit-eu-referendum-economy-project-fear

www.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/that-brexit-apocalypse-it-just-isnt-happening/

I voted 'remain', because based on all the propaganda it seemed the lesser of two evils.
However, I may join all those politicians/ 'Brexiteers' and get myself citizenship in a European country before it's too late.