That a male just won a women’s cycling World Championship?

[Badmoonsarising]

Can’t really get my mind round this tbh though i was aware of another male Laurel Hubbard taking medals in the Women’s Weight Lifting World Championships earlier this year. Are we really ready for males winning the Women’s Wimbledon Title and the women’s Olympic 100m Final?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/10/15/trans-woman-rachel-mckinnon-cycling-world-championship/amp/

Datun With apologies. You are forgetting the all important sandwiches, the settling of the children and the laughs and the praise for the great and wonderful men in their lives, whilst they drink their beer and you sip your soft drink.

Well yes, I'm agreeing with you.,,

It's all about equailty if a women won the mens there would be no outrage .You can't pick and choose

And the award for the most spectacular missing of the point goes to.....

there won't be any women's sports, at either elite or grass roots level. Women and girls will stop competing. Sponsors will stop putting money into events and infrastructure. Organisations will wither and die from lack of interest / competitors. We will have gone back 60+ years

there won't be any women's sports, at either elite or grass roots level. Women and girls will stop competing

Agree, there needs to be some thought into this, because as it stands now, the end game is transwomen sports and Male sports. And that's it. Biologically born women will be unable to compete.

Oh FFS, this makes me so angry!

Kathrine Switzer, the first woman to run the iconic Boston Marathon. Entered using her initials. And when the men found out, they try to push her off the side and remove her bib.

"Switzer was, however, disqualified from the race and there was more backlash to come: Switzer said aggressive journalists approached her at the finish line, yelling,

“Real women don’t run."

Fifty years of women's rights being eliminated overnight.

This is where Stonewall and other orgs have really fucked up goodwill and support for trans people. If they had focused more on trans people celebrating and achieving as trans people I think more people would have been on board.

It might have taken some time (due to numbers) to establish trans leagues and categories in sporting events where biological sex matters but that's no different to the years it took for women to be able to compete professionally.

They would have more respect and people could genuinely cheer first transperson to achieve (insert record) instead of boos and jeering about cheating.

The thing is, if McKinnon had won a men's title, or even achieved a silver or bronze place as a transwoman, that would truly have been an achievement and a great first for the trans community and something to celebrate. By stealing a woman's rightful place she has actually set back trans rights and caused a lot of resentment.

Are we enjoying our erasure yet?

Yup, this is what it's about, isn't it? Along with Lily Madigan and co - all just trolling women.

I agree, Ova

He knows he can’t win as a man, yet as a woman, he has the advantage and almost guaranteed to win

This

and this

Testosterone is a red herring. Males have bigger hearts, bigger lungs etc etc. And what is plain and obvious to even a 3 year old, males are more powerfully built than females

Is there any point in encouraging our daughters to take up sport?

Are we enjoying our erasure yet?

Quite. Here is a link if you're not quite prepared to be erased. The consultation closes on Friday. After that your voice will not be heard.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3394063-TWO-quick-ways-to-submit-a-Fair-Play-consultation-response-this-weekend

If sport is inherently unfair, why bother with rules at all? I’m sure the heavyweight men will be happy to fight the super heavyweight men, won’t they?
And in fact I notice that this man is competing in the masters cycling category, but I’m sure he’s happy to have that category opened up to younger men and women who identify as being older, isn’t he??

If you calmed down a bit you might be able to see the actual words through the red haze.

Only men tell women to 'calm down'.
I have never, ever heard another woman (a real one anyway) tell another woman to calm down.

You are showing yourself up.

Fucking ludicrous 😤 .

Just showed 10 year old DD the photograph without context and asked her to describe what she saw: "Two women and a man doing some sort of sport, the man looks really strong."

From the mouths of babes.........🙄

M3lon, your lack of concern for women and girls is troubling.
It's obvious why that is.

Calm down dear. The men are in charge.🙄

But I also can't get worked up about this issue as it affects almost no one

Not true. It affects all girls and women who want to compete at all levels. There's already concern that girls and women don't participate in sports enough, and this is only going to make things worse.

I am so pleased this is in AIBU.There are too many people who have a

This doesn't affect us attitude

That attitude needs to change. It DOES affect us.

I wish we could identify gender on a scale of masculine to feminine. Which is both accurate, and nothing to do with being male and female.

What I really cannot understand about all this is if one of the women in this race had been discovered taking performance enhancing drugs they would have been disqualified but if one of the competitors' performance is enhanced by virtue of them actually being a man then that's okay.

The whole situation is ludicrous. It's cheating plain and simple.

He's standing between two women knowing that he's a cheat and he's getting away with it. No wonder he looks so pleased with himself.

Those women must be sickened to realize that every time they enter a race in which this man is running they haven't a hope in hell of beating him.

I feel so sorry for them. Everything they train for and work so hard for all going for nothing because the odds are so heavily stacked against them.

He can live how he wants, dress how he wants, self identify however he wants but why should that entitle him to cheat his way to the top of a competitive sport.

What beats me is how McKinnon can actually feel they've won anything - if you have a male body and can only win against a group of women, what kind of victory is that?

It's bizarre, isn't it?
I don't care how much medication they take to lower their testosterone, they still have bigger hearts, bigger lungs, different shaped limbs and narrower hips compared to women, which give them a HUGE advantage when it comes to sport.

*Not running, racing

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How would that prevent men cheating their way into womens' sports?