In thinking having more than 5 sexual partners doesn't make you a raging whore bag?

[fifithefoof]

Following on from the last thread .....

Or for me to have no physical difference in my relationships with people I love versus people I don't. Again, no thanks

And again, please show where I advised you that.

Lorna would you share a bed with someone you don’t love?

Here’s things I have the mental capacity for:-

1. Sex as part of a deeper relationship. The relationship is not defined by the sex.

1. Sex as an act in and of itself. No attachment necessary or desired.

1. Having a smear test without mistaking it for sex.

Sure I would share a bed with them. I wouldn't be kissing them and doing other intimate things with them though. This is how i differentiate people I love. If you treat people you love and people you don't love the same way, physically at least, then it's not the life for me.

jeeze you hoes still talking about this...bunch of hoebags

I would really dislike sharing a bed with someone I didn’t love.

I don’t even really like sharing a house with people who aren’t my immediate family, for me it feels too intimate to have people around me to that extent

1 and 2 are physically indistinct acts sonim not sure why you would need two things there, you may as well just say you have the capacity to have sex with people really.

If you treat people you love and people you don't love the same way, physically at least, then it's not the life for me

No-one has said it has to be.

Just do other people the same courtesy and accept that despite people doing things differently to you, does not make them wrong, dishonest, lying etc.

The reason women don’t tend to have such a disposable approach to sexual partners (in general) is because they have got more of a brain and higher standards, i.e they don’t jump into bed with simply an owner of wide manly shoulders and a pert butt, but expect a few other attributes. Men will be happy to do any pretty thing on offer and worry about the wind tunnel in her head later. Women are too smart for that. We are the ones stranded with the consequences ranging from difficulties getting pregnant due to ‘sti lovlies’ collected during fun years before starting a family to chlamydia induced infertility (often dormant asymptotic sti). Also women are aware that we will be the one left holding the baby and bringing said baby up if the ‘fun shag’ buggers off. So, personally a large number makes me think of poor self-esteem, lack of boundaries and general low self worth. Promiscuous behaviour is a known sign of things not being good on many levels.

1 and 2 are physically indistinct acts sonim not sure why you would need two things there, you may as well just say you have the capacity to have sex with people really.

What are you referring to? What is ‘1’ and what is ‘2’?

@lornar123

If your next boyfriend isn't better at sex than your ex will you dump him?

We've answered all of the questions you've asked us (several times).

It obviously means that having someone else put something in your vagina is an objectively intimate act ????
Earlier this week a nurse put 2 things into my vagina. There was certainly a degree of intimacy, but I wouldn't call it sex.

New bloke called Phil starts in the accounts department. Your eyes meet in the canteen, he asks you out. You have some dates, you like him, his and there is a sexual connection. You fall in love with him and decide to have sex (how long do you normally leave between falling in love and having sex?) He's good, but not quite as good as your cheating Ex.

Would you dump the lovely Phil from accounts because he is not the best sex you have had lornar?

Cantankerous see Jacques list.

Oh, I see.

Your sentence still isn’t making any sense in my head.

You, yourself have said that 1 and 2 aren’t the same thing or you wouldn’t be so happy to do one and so against doing the other

@lornar123 why won't you answer?

Sorry, I have had no experience of bedding someone who I have bad sex with. I don't rank it - I mean how would you even do that ? How quickly you orgasm ? I have always had lots of orgasms with my partners and my attitude is that if you have a connection with someone then you would have to be pretty inept to have bad sex with them. If they had undisclosed erectile issues then I would be disappointed and would not continue the relationship.

I don't remember you answering my questions Dionne. Most people I believe associate love and sex, that's why many feel cagy about getting into a relationship with someone who does not associate love with sex. You seem to inhabit a middle ground where the same act is indicative of love with one person but not another. Except that if a person you love did the act with someone they did not love, you would still be hurt and possibly jealous. Do you see how it seems like that to me at least?

Lots of things are indicative of love with one person and not to another

Or exclusively love based for some people but not others

Like sharing a bed is an act of love for me, for you it’s fine to share a bed with anyone.

There is a huge difference between ‘love sex’ and ‘getting it on after a night out’ sex

So in conclusion @JacquesHammer has a boyfriend she just doesn't know it yet.
@fifithefoof can't possibly have different expectations between a partner and a FWB.

And despite banging on for pages about being "special" and "the best" @lornar123 decided that you can't actually quantify that.

Did i miss anything?

So in conclusion @JacquesHammer has a boyfriend she just doesn't know it yet

In addition @RebelRogue, he doesn’t know it either

You know. PIV sex isn’t the ba all and end all of a relationship for me.

I struggle with it because of my experience with my husband. I find it very hard to trust someone enough to let my guard down to put them in a position where they, who are bigger and strong than I, can penetrate me. Especially if they are on top.

But that’s not what a relationship is about to me.

I explained it Lornar123. I explained how I felt about Mr FTF and what we did last night. He has ED due to medical conditions, so you would dump him because of an occasional issue in that department. That is your right, and I perfectly understand that is a deal breaker for you.

For me, a relarionship is a lot more than PIV.

You were the one who brought up "best sex" lornar:
the point is that most people inside comitted and loving relationship expect that their partner finds them to be the best lover they've had.
And
I would never marry someone if I knew I could never fulfill them sexually the way their ex could.

What is best sex? It depends on the person, sex and relationships are subjective. Anyway, dear old Phil isn't as good as your Ex would you dump him for this reason? And if you stayed with him, would you lie if he asked you if he was the best?

And of course sex is different with different people.

If you can’t see that my husband having sex with me without my consent is different to the sex I have with Mr FTF then you really must be being deliberately obtuse.

Of course the same act - of sex - can be indicative of love with one person and not another.

I just explained it for you. Again. In words of one syllable.

Is anyone else really starting to get fond of Phil?

@lornar123

my attitude is that if you have a connection with someone then you would have to be pretty inept to have bad sex with them.

Not talking about bad. Talking about if it isn't THE BEST EVER.

What if it isn't better than with your ex?

And to say you're inept if you can have bad sex with someone you have a connection with is the most insane thing you've said across these two threads.

Not to mention probably incredibly insulting to people who can't have 'good sex' for a multitude of reasons.

You have a fuck ton of growing up to do.

So. Me and Mr FTF. He’s inept then, because sometimes we have bad sex in fact no sex because he’s a type one diabetic with ED?