Page 26 | I never used to go around with a water bottle, let alone, grab a cup of coffee

LittleBookofCalm · 2018-10-13T11:46:38+00:00

every time I went out. what is it with people having to be constantly Slurping! the world cannot cope with all the rubbish this causes.

limitedperiodonly · 15/10/2018 19:08

They'd also write about the need to 'flush out your kidneys'. Healthy kidneys, what most of us have, do not need anything other than you being able to drink as much as you'd like when you are thirsty in order to do their job.

If they can't do their job, no amount of water is going to fix the fact that you have kidney failure. And yet people write this shit and people believe them.

Same goes for the hysterical warning: 'when you're thirsty you are already dehydrated' which I've seen at least once on this thread. W

A lot of people who say that would never say the same about food, as in: 'if you are hungry you are already in starvation.'

Most people would agree that experiencing mild hunger pangs are normal and just a sign that you should eat soon. I can't see what's different about feeling a bit thirsty.

WeaselsRising · 15/10/2018 19:31

People 20 years ago did not habitually work 3 jobs, have 2 hour commutes, or not get home till midnight (except shift workers)

Actually they did. 20+ years ago I was doing a "full time" degree, working in a call centre and waitressing, round my 4 small DC. I was driving from work to college to work in the same day and getting in really late but didn't ever feel the need to carry water around. I would drink at meal times like everyone else.

MNMH · 15/10/2018 19:35

Maybe, just maybe...
Different people do things differently!
Doesn't make anyone better or worse than the next person - just different!
That's why there's more than one flavour of ice cream, more than one type of car, more than one music genre.
But no. Let's nitpick inane societal behaviours. That's productive.

PhilomenaButterfly · 15/10/2018 19:35

Just because I do the school run, do the shopping and go home, doesn't mean I don't constantly have a dry mouth. Therefore I'll drink a load of water before I leave the house, have a coffee in the Sainsbury's café before doing the shopping, then have more water when I get home.

ohshitonit · 15/10/2018 19:42

"Just because I do the school run, do the shopping and go home, doesn't mean I don't constantly have a dry mouth. Therefore I'll drink a load of water before I leave the house, have a coffee in the Sainsbury's café before doing the shopping, then have more water when I get home."

Nobody cares, if someone is thirsty then they can carry a drink around! They shouldn't have to have a drink in Sainsburys cafe. I hope none of you weirdos are staring my mum down when she's sipping water or "slurping" as the OP put for some perverse reason, she has chronic kidney disease.

Hideandgo · 15/10/2018 19:48

Oh come on, cut the bullshit everyone. Walking around with a bottle or water or a coffee perpetually in your hand is simply a wanky trend right now. Who cares. It’s harming nobody.

MaisyPops · 15/10/2018 19:56

Change in language.........once upon a time people just got thirsty, now they get dehydrated.
I hadn't thought of this but now you've said it people don't get nervous, they have 'anxiety' and they don't have a headache, they have a migraine.
Both conditions are genuinely an issue for some people, but they get used quite a lot inaccurately.
Someone I know (no health issues before people start) doesn't feel a little a tired, they're always "flagging" and have to stop for a coffee stop all the bloody time. I'm sure it's just habit (and a need to complain about any element of life in pseudo psychological babble).

Maybe you're right. The language shifts might be reflecting a bigger culture shift of pathologising every tiny moment of life that isn't chipper.

MNMH · 15/10/2018 19:59

How is hydration a trend?! The only wanky thing is people who put way more thought into it than necessary. Maybe if people minded their own lives instead of attaching ridiculous judgments to total strangers, they wouldn't notice such trivialities.

MNMH · 15/10/2018 20:01

Please don't start attacking anxiety. Some of us legitimately have it and it's a daily struggle. Come on now. You guys are really starting to be flat out mean and vicious now.

ohshitonit · 15/10/2018 20:04

Mocking anxiety now? There's more anxiety now because theres less of a taboo, how vile of you.
I think you're all seriously weird and probably should go to a therapist or something being as you are so affected and interested in small details about strangers lives. I'd be really embarrassed. Luckily I'm too busy to notice what strangers are doing.

Hideandgo · 15/10/2018 20:10

You literally notice nothing strangers do?

MNMH · 15/10/2018 20:11

Notice, yes. Make ridiculous, unkind judgments on common behaviour that affects no one else? No. There's a difference.

MNMH · 15/10/2018 20:13

And don't bring up the environment as not affecting no one else because that's clearly not what this is about.

MaisyPops · 15/10/2018 20:13

Mocking anxiety now?
Please don't start attacking anxiety

I take it you didn't bother to read my post where it quite clearly states Both conditions are genuinely an issue for some people, but they get used quite a lot inaccurately

But sure, it's "vile" to think there is a difference between thirst/dehydration, headaches/migraines, nerves/anxiety and that some people inaccurately claim the latter when they have the former.
I have had referrals for anxiety and panic attacks. I get migraines. Someone feeling nervous and claiming anxiety / someone saying migraine when it's a headache makes it much, much harder for people who genuinely suffer.

ohshitonit · 15/10/2018 20:28

I notice things, but I am not interested and don't judge ridiculously small details like this. Bizarre.

Maisypops you don't get to decide whether someone's nervousness is anxiety. Maybe your anxiety isn't real anxiety? How can you decide if someone's headache is a migraine?

WheelyCote · 15/10/2018 20:36

Is this still going!? Jeez louissee.

If the worse thing, someone does is carry a water bottle....then it's not a bad day.

And even if it's a trend.....I've seen far wankier ones.

MaisyPops · 15/10/2018 20:38

ohshitonit
Anxiety is a medical condition that properly impacts on someone's life. It is not nerves which are a normal part of life. It is normal to feel nervous and apprehensive about things. Anxiety is not normal nerves.

If someone is wandering around the workplace making a fuss of how they have a migraine, sitting on their phone at lunch etc then almost every migraine sufferer will tell you it's probably not a migraine.

It's like people confusing (deliberately) dietary preferences, intolerances and allergies.
Or people claiming they are a bit OCD.
Or people claiming they've had a touch of the flu when they have the sniffles.

I would take what someone says at face value in real life.
I do think there are people who play up entirely normal ebbs and flows in life for dramatic effect (e.g. dying of thirst and being sooo dehydrated when the reality it you could do with a drink)
I feel strongly that the more the drama queen number increases, the more difficult it is for people who have genuine medical issues or mental health issues to get support and recognition.

limitedperiodonly · 15/10/2018 21:02

No one is attacking those who have anxiety MNMH

Most of us are whingeing about the things we find irritating about other people. It's no more serious than that.

Some of us are also pointing out the things we have noticed that contribute to anxiety - like an obsession with monitoring health down to the colour of our wee (straw coloured for preference) and competing to be healthier in a nebulous way which is encouraged by nutty writers on women's magazines. That's a very damaging trend.

Is this not allowed?

Goldikovaa · 15/10/2018 22:30

At risk of being called a weirdo or cruel person, OP - I get you. I never used to either - think it all kicked off about 20 years ago.

NHS recommends 1.2 litres of water a day - equals about 4 * 300ml mugs of tea a day. You could drink two in the morning and two in the evening or if you are one of the slightly less busy people - maybe have a glass of water with lunch.

No need to contribute to the world waste mountain by buying a special bottle for the purpose (even if it is reusable) and lugging it round all day.

I find kids water bottles particularly annoying. My kids are always being given them as free gifts at sports events. They invariably leak, lose the lids etc etc and end up either in the bin or clogging up my kitchen cupboards because I can't bear to throw them away.

Of course there are special cases for health reasons but the majority of people out and about do not have kidney problems etc.

ProfessorMoody · 15/10/2018 22:39

Maisypops as someone with very real, diagnosed anxiety disorder and Complex PTSD, I completely and utterly agree with you.

It's SO hard to get help for people who have genuine mental illness because of pseudo-anxiety.

Real anxiety disorders are a brain chemical issue that have very physical and uncontrollable symptoms. Real anxiety is NOT normal nerves, feeling uncomfortable at a party, shaking before a job interview, not liking talking on the phone.

The sooner this is realised, the better, but unfortunately the issue is getting worse and worse and with every Tom, Dick and Harry claiming to have Anxiety, OCD or Depression, and the eye rolls that come with it when you tell an employer/friend/family member you suffer, it is making it impossible for those who actually do have the conditions.

MustStopSnacking28 · 15/10/2018 23:07

As long as people reuse their bottles or cups and don’t create unnecessary waste I couldn’t care less how much or where they are drinking. Maybe they are just thirsty?

MNMH · 16/10/2018 00:39

limitedperiodonly
That's a really bizarre take on someone holding a cup of coffee or a bottle of water. You don't even know why! You're just making really weird assumptions based on absolutely nothing. You don't know why a total stranger is doing what they're doing. What purpose does that serve? You think if you glare at them hard enough they'll stop doing something YOU wouldn't do and conduct themselves in a way that for some reason causes you this much anger?
Is it that difficult to mind your own business?
No, go on as you are. You're only poisoning yourself with these thoughts. Meanwhile, they're going on with their lives, not giving two shits about what you think. Maybe you should knock their drink out of their hand so they'll know how displeased you are.

MNMH · 16/10/2018 00:42

WHY are we talking about mental illnesses? You can't diagnose people you don't know.
You're so determined to make your point that you're going as far as to say this is why people are mentally ill now?
Wow. Just wow.

CoughLaughFart · 16/10/2018 01:13

People who get into a strop about someone they’ve never met buying a bottle of water should sort themselves out. Fuck whether it’s a ‘trend’ or if it didn’t happen 30 years ago - loads of things DIDN’T! It’s beyond ridiculous.

MaisyPops · 16/10/2018 06:40

MNMH
It was a discussion emerging out of what someone else said about changes in language use.
E.g. there is a difference between being a bit thirsty and dehydration but people can be quick to make a big fuss about being dehydrated when the likelihood is they are a bit thirsty.

I wondered if it's similar to people repeatedly conflating anxiety vs normal life nerves, migraines vs headaches. Dehydration, anxiety and migraines are all actual issues which badly affect people, not something every Tom dick and Harry should throw off their tongue for effect.

Despite saying this suddenly it's all 'you're having a go at anxiety and using mental health to prove a point'

People are discussing whether there's a shift in culture of language regarding health and wellness.