To say it's NOT pronounced like this?

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Cutlery.

Cut-le-ree
Not cuttle-ree

Sets my teeth on edge. What pronunciations annoy you?

I’m in Portsmouth and here people say ‘scrazed’ for grazed and ‘squinny’ for whining

Draw instead of draw-er
I never heard this. Where do people say this?

I've seen this everywhere recently, especially on selling sites.

I'm Scottish. I have never said JAI (J EYE) for JAY. I don't know anyone who does.

The Welsh and, based on Poldark, Cornish pronunciation of nephew makes me cringe every time. Nevew instead of nefew. Arrggghhh!

I was taught J-eye in school in Scotland. Also taught haitch.

Yetalkahitehen thank you

Graphista you’re most welcome. I’ve spent the last few minutes trying to think of a time when I’ve disagreed and there isn’t one so that should be 10/10!

Early primary in SE Scotland - j-eye and aitch here. (Took me ages and being on the receiving end of a lot of bullying in my subsequent English primary to turn that in to j-aye, and lose the rhotic "R" in "doing the ironing.")

I don't mind any of it... as long as I understand. I used to be a pedant but since living abroad and learning Chinese I stopped worrying about English, as I'm sure I murder their language!

Draw instead of draw-er
I never heard this. Where do people say this?

I've seen this everywhere recently, especially on selling sites.

My least favourite - "chester draws for sale, good condition."

Incidentally, I have lived in Scotland for over 40 years."

So you're not a Scot and you're criticising scots for how they pronounce something?

Eh?

I AM Scottish

Also, just to clarify, I am not criticising sottish people, what with actually being one, I am criticising the people who say Jai. If nothing else is clear in this thread, the fact that not all Scottish people say jai is.

I am criticising the people who say Jai

You’ve got no right and are actually being really fucking rude.

If nothing else is clear in this thread, the fact that not all Scottish people say jai is.

Nobody said they did. It’s you who has a problem with it.

Another thing that's quite apparent. Not everyone can read.

Not everyone can read

Aye you’re right, you’re just wrong about who

But you are criticising them because you are stating definitively and repeatedly, with no proof except for your opinion, that those that say Jeye are wrong.

And I am saying that as a Scot who herself says Jay and hates Jeye. But at least I will admit that it is because I am a snob posh

Graphista - I agreed with your post (which was much more articulately argued than anything Buscaution has asserted). My extremely vague memory of linguistics and history of language (as part of my degree, c 40 years ago - but then I dropped Russian, which was the bit of History of Language I enjoyed) was that the Great Vowel Change in Medieval times might account for some of the regional differences.

Crummy H said haitch is standard pronounciation in certain parts of Ireland and Northern Ireland.

AL-mond. It's aahmund. We don't say cALm down...
My son gets very upset about nikey instead of Nike - his argument is that we don't say bikey instead of bike. He has a point.

pretty.

I said I was not criticising Scottish people. As a whole. It came as a response to a post in which I was told I am not even a soft and I am criticising Scottish people. Well I am a Scot and I was not criticising Scottish people. I said I was criticising people who said jai. That's just some Scottish people.

I agree with your point about a PP being more articulate. I wish I could be better.

I said I was criticising people who said jai. That's just some Scottish people

And that’s why I said you were being a snob. Because you are.

The pronunciation of the letter H as ‘ haitch’ - it’s spelling is AITCH therefore pronounced the same.
‘ secetary’ Is another - also ‘ restraunteur’ . Maybe I’m too picky!

And that’s why I said you were being a snob. Because you are

Interesting.

"You’ve got no right and are actually being really fucking rude"

Completely agree, also I'm not convinced you're a Scot as why say "I've lived here over 40 years" rather than just say you're a scot? Doesn't make sense.

Nobody else is saying "all scots say X" or anything similar, nobody else is being so rude as to arrogantly assume that THEIR way of speaking is the ONLY correct way.

And the comment about reading is weak and VERY rude and as you well know completely inaccurate.

"Great Vowel Change in Medieval times might account for some of the regional differences." Yes if I recall correctly there's still a few examples in original Chaucer texts, among others. It's coming on 15 years ago for me! But I still read articles and watch presentations when I can.

Not in Ireland it isn’t. Or certain parts of Derry or Belfast. And definitely not in Armagh or Monaghan.

It’s haitch there and always has been.

Cutlery is pronounced 'knives and forks' or 'spoons'

Blackout I was told earlier that the Irish are wrong. The end.