To say it's NOT pronounced like this?

[DaanSaaf]

Cutlery.

Cut-le-ree
Not cuttle-ree

Sets my teeth on edge. What pronunciations annoy you?

When they write Sharn for Sian what they actually mean is Shaaan. For some u known reason people write a random R to show the heavy A.

Because I have a non-rhotic accent so I would pronounce Sharn exactly the same as Shaaaan.

Shaaah/Shar however they were written, would rhyme with car.

It also means I pronounce "Baa" like the sheep, indistinguishably from "bar" that you drink at.

My DH started saying sumfink instead of something. Drove me bonkers. Fortunately, he stopped.

bus well people learn it in school and everyone in their vicinity says it so...what do you want? For them to magically know that they’re pronouncing it ‘wrong’?

No of course I don't want people to magically know. I'm just saying it's incorrect. How that gets resolved wasn't really part of my thought process.

Funny how it’s always Scottish and Northern accents but SE English is allllll perfectly normal.

Like i said, incorrect pronunciation of a letter sound isn't down to an accent. It's just not right. If any of my DC's came home and told me they were being taught jai instead of jay, I would be right up to see the head teacher.

Incidentally, I have lived in Scotland for over 40 years.

Does anyone else have L-vocalisation on the end of words that end in L? Because I say "towoow" for "towel" or "owoow" for "owl" or "miwk" for "milk". But it's not like a speech impediment per se, Because it's not a 'proper' W sound, but it's not a "L" either... But it's definitely a vowlish sound.

dialectblog.com/2011/05/26/the-trubbow-with-l-vocalization/

Almond I understand. I think many people just see an R but actually it's just pronunciation of the A

What I mean is I can pronounce them "properly" but it's not how I say them when I'm speaking casually.

I’ve recently moved to a new town and ‘o’ on the end of words tends to be pronounced as ‘A’ by many native speakers. Really struggling to not find it irritating. An example is photos which becomes photAs.

Things like this bothered me when I was young. Used to have proper arguments with my best mate about noogar or nuggart for nougat. Now I am old and have realised the huge depths of my own ignorance I no longer give a toss.

Incidentally, best mate has lived in France for the last 40 years and has admitted I was right - it is noogar.

When they write Sharn for Sian what they actually mean is Shaaan. For some u known reason people write a random R to show the heavy A.

And bingo!

It’s not random.

It's nuggit for noogar

The H sound.

Each letter has 2 sounds.

A. Ah - Ay
C. Cuh - cee
S. Sss- ess

Etc.

We learn phonetically, then we move on.

So instead of saying Huh (phonetic H) we say aitch, which is the letter sound.

For some reason many people out the 2 together to form a new and incorrect letter sound 'haitch'

Generally instead of genuinely irks me.

They're totally different words and even though it often makes sense when it's used, you know 100% that they really mean genuinely.

E.g. I generally was gobsmacked.

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I was actually agreeing with you, I guess that isn't how it sounded.

It's not a random R, it shows the pronunciation of the long A

NOOOO. It's a west coast thing AFAIK. I'm from Fife and would never say J-eye.

No, it's not. I was born and brought up in central Edinburgh nearly 50 years ago and say J-eye, as would my parents and grandparents.

I think the pre Sesame Street generation in my area all did.

For some reason many people out the 2 together to form a new and incorrect letter sound 'haitch'

Or they're Irish.

I live in Fife now where the some of the locals say 'jamp' instead of 'jumped'.

Sorry, that sounded snappy and rude, I didn't mean it to. It was a genuine comment about how Irish people pronounce H.

or they are irish

But they are still mixing the 2 letter sounds for H to form ‘haitch’.

Doesn’t matter where people come from ‘haitch’ is a mix of the 2 sounds, Huh and aitch.

I live in Fife now where the some of the locals say 'jamp' instead of 'jumped'

This one actually makes me want to cry. Particularly when it’s passed of as local dialect.

haven't read the full thread, but was a little shocked to hear Karen Brady saying 'draw-ring' on the apprentice this week.I expected more from her ;-)

Equally annoying are 'Feb-uary' and 'drownding

@DaanSaaf

I mentioned the ibrufen on another thread about this type of thing. Apparently brufen was a brand of ibuprofen and that's why some people say brufen/ibrufen. I had no idea, still irritates me right enough 😂

I live in Fife now where the some of the locals say 'jamp' instead of 'jumped'.

This gives me the rage... my kids do it & the conversation goes like this:

DC: I jamp out of my skin there
Me: I'm sorry? You what?
DC: I jumped out of my skin there
Me: I thought that's what you said but I didn't quite catch it
DC: 🙄

I have been known to get the dictionary out to prove it's not a fucking word

oh and an 'h' introduced into 'str' e 'shtraight ' and 'shtreet'. Why??

Also DH with his 'chimley' and 'Burningham' (chimney and Birmingham)

I live in an area where it is a heady mixture of Essex, cockney and that weird accent teenagers use that sounds like they are Jamaican

I have at times a shitty dialect I have to be really aware of pronounciation when I am talking at work

Other people have said that where I am from you miss things out of a sentence like ‘I’m going to bed’ would be ‘going bed’

Library - ly-bree
Anything with H - dropped off
Towel - taal
Water - worta

DH pronounces "auction" as "ockshn". I always feel compelled to reply by ostentatiously talking about "orkshns" but it hasn't changed anything