To think we might not be going on holiday next April after all?

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We stupidly booked a holiday to France for about a fortnight after Brexit. I didn’t even consider brexit at the time, I just considered ds’s Easter holidays. It’s to Disneyland Paris and we’ve been waiting to take the children for ages. We’ve only paid the deposit on the hotel (stopping in Disneyland hotel so expensive if we end up not being able to go) but have paid for the flights.

We are idiots.

Would we be best to cut our losses and not pay the balance on the hotel and book for another time?

This is all so terrifying! I can't get my head around it. How on earth is any of this being allowed to happen?! Anyone who votes Tory after this shit storm needs sectioning.

How on earth is any of this being allowed to happen?!

We're all obliged to stand by and watch the economy being shoved off a cliff, worker's rights vanishing, our children's future's narrowing and darkening, shitty food standards (one to watch closely) and Lord knows what else because ......thepeoplehavespoken

ManicUnicorn,

Is there any alternative, I constantly ask myself this. Would Labour be any different?

Anyway, not getting into a Red v Blue thinngy, it is the uncertainty that is is causing a lot of worry for us isn't it??

My closest friend works as a Border Force Officer - they’re the ones who do the customs work as well as passport control. Apparently they’re all shitting themselves about the very real possibility of ‘no deal’

IMO they’re the ones on the front line of this - after all they control and secure our borders. If they’re worried then so am I!!

Labour wouldn't be any different. Brexshit is shit whoever is in charge!

ok, a question from me

If I want to go somewhere non-EU, and I use that country's national carrier - will flights go ahead as normal? as presumably since they are already non-EU they already have their own aviation agreements with regards to using airspace etc?

Interesting thread - especially those predicting a transition period. I thought that was what we were meant to be in now? Personally we are waiting to buy our first home until after brexit. We received an inheritance this April, but our financial and mortgage advisors both strongly cautioned waiting until after Brexit. I’m anxious to move as I’m having a baby in April! But decided to listen to the advice as they were so convincing.

@iamclearlyamug no - because our agreements with non EU countries are made via the open skies agreement, so with us as part of the EU.

The UK doesn't have agreements on its own, it's all done via the EU so all will become null and void once we are a third country.

Personally I have written off travel plans for Easter and May half term just not worth the uncertainty

Thrifty I heard a property advisor on radio this week advising the opposite and that due to nervousness in the market if you're not selling anything you have great negotiating power now to buy plus interest rates will likely increase after Brexit and the availability of credit will be less house prices are already in decline

I wouldn’t worry, Disney land will be the least of your worries. As Brexit approaches apparently fire and brimstone will be falling from the sky, the seas will be running red with blood, plagues of locusts will be decimating crops....... or alternatively you might at worst need a visa

Brexiteers feel that unravelling forty years of deals covering all aspects of aviation, trade, security etc is totes easy and we’ll get far better deals now!

interesting thread - especially those predicting a transition period. I thought that was what we were meant to be in now?

Nope - Article 50 allows a 2 year period to negotiate an orderly withdrawal from the EU, and that runs out on 29 March 2019. The UK and the EU are currently negotiating a withdrawal agreement that would allow a transition period until the end of 2019 to allow for future trading arrangements etc to be agreed; if the WA isn’t agreed then the UK crashes out next March with nothing.

The new deals we’re going have are going to be fabulous!
Brexiteers love an exciting challenge! Perhaps although we don’t know anything about how stuff works, we are actually more ‘dynamic’!
Book the holiday op- Disney needs us brits and Mickey and cinderella are worth it!

We are still a full EU member until March 29th 2019. We are not in transition now, and if we leave with 'no deal' then there will not be a transition period.
Cliff edge means cliff edge!

Are the people who think we can just revert to the pre EU system also leave voters? Because that would explain a LOT.

or alternatively you might at worst need a visa

Deadbudgie, could you explain to us how, in that scenario, we will within the next 5 months have got round the entire travel treaty problem?

I don’t really blame the current Tory government but I do blame David Cameron. Why would you let people vote on this?! Total disaster. Whoever was in power now would have been handed a poisoned chalice. There isn’t any answer to it that I can see.
However I will say to my (not particularly policiatlly educated) eye the government seen very relaxed about it all. I’m hoping they are more prepared than they outwardly seem...but they probably aren’t.

Well you should blame the govt.

Triggering article 40 without any discussion or plan was stupid and completely unnecessary. Holding election after that was unhelpful. They fought against parliament having their say and David Davis hardly turned up wascomoletely out his depth thendisappearedina huff. This is complete incompetence.

Oh yes they are idiots.

I agree the Labour Party aren't much better, and are probably missing a trick by not doing more, but the tinfoil hat side of me thinks they know Brexit is a disaster waiting to happen and are waiting to seize on that afterwards.

I dont particularly like Theresa May but I do think she's stuck between a rock and a hard place. I think she'll resign soon after Brexit if a deal is done.

IMO life will not stop after Brexit.

Our easter holiday takes place the day after Brexit. I have no worries about it being in jeopardy. TA has not made any mention about special measures that may take place. OP, do not worry.

"How is this being allowed to happen"

We voted for this remember? At least 52% of us did.

Not being able to fly isn't the end of life on earth

Have a read.... its not Project Fear, it outlines the issues to be faced if there is a no-deal by the people who regulate flying in the UK.

publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP1714BrexitAviationSafety.pdf