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To ask who you trust most Theresa or Boris - quick poll

236 replies

HurricaneFloss · 03/10/2018 12:05

Rules: just pick one or the other. Don't say "neither"! And don't say it should be whom not who

Theresa or Boris?

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StoneofDestiny · 03/10/2018 23:34

Boris is smarter
No - he is calculating, manipulative and devious. That is a perverse kind of smartness. He does not have the morals, ethics, wisdom, reserve or empathy we need in a leader of the country. He plays the 'jack the lad' character too often and his idiotic antics have made us a laughing stock abroad. He's a pompous, disloyal and dangerous oaf.

BigGreenOlives · 03/10/2018 23:36

Theresa.

She Isn’t in this for personal glory, she’s doing it because it has to be done and she has a strong sense of duty.

I wish she’d stop being decent & honorable & turn round and say this is all a terrible mistake and the UK wants to stay in the EU but she can’t as there was a referendum and you can’t keep changing the rules until you get what you want.

Spreadingcudweed · 03/10/2018 23:43

Neither really but TM if forced to choose, although find her self imposed red lines bewildering and don't think she is doing a difficult job woefully. At least she has stepped up to deal with the mess though, unlike David Cameron who disappeared like a rat down a drainpipe having created it! What a dog's dinner he has left behind. He deserves to be condemned forever in the history books for his smug and irresponsible complacency.

Boris has been observed to be wanting, both as an MP and a minister and his overweaning personal ambition will be his downfall (hopefully).

Aintnothingbutaheartache · 03/10/2018 23:44

Theresa

Spreadingcudweed · 03/10/2018 23:45

Sorry, I think she is doing a difficult job woefully badly!!

Pickleup · 04/10/2018 00:02

Theresa

The papers say Tory party members love Boris but I am one* and I would never ever ever vote for him to be leader.

*largely so I can vote in a leadership election. £25 well spent IMO if it means stopping Boris or the dreadful Rees-Mogg

Flyaway78 · 04/10/2018 00:06

Theresa - never a fan but she's doing her best and Boris has behaved appallingly

safariboot · 04/10/2018 00:09

Ugh. Hate to say this, but Boris. On Brexit I'm coming to think that any direction, planned and committed to by the UK government, will be better than no direction at all which is what we're getting at the moment. As for other stuff, well he did alright as Mayor of London didn't he?

AviatorShades · 04/10/2018 00:17

Assuming this will be picked up by DM (spit)

In this highly unlikely political scenario, I'm voting for TM

SlowlyShrinking · 04/10/2018 00:27

Theresa, obviously. Boris has shown himself to be completely untrustworthy, a moral vacuum, an entirely unprincipled man.

Unfinishedkitchen · 04/10/2018 07:20

No he didn’t do alright as London mayor @safariboot. He did nothing at all other than open the olympics and introduce public bikes. Both of these things were agreed before he even became mayor so he got lucky as it looked like they happened because of him.

The only thing he ‘achieved’ was wasting £40m of tax payers money trying to get an unwanted and unnecessary garden bridge built by and for his friends. It was extremely corrupt and cancelled but we never got our money back.

ElainaElephant · 04/10/2018 07:28

Theresa.

At least she is there, in the fitting line, trying to do her goddamn best in a situation that she didn't create.

The same can't be said for Cameron, Johnson or Farage.

Unfinishedkitchen · 04/10/2018 07:29

In addition I genuinely don’t understand why anyone who wasn’t landed gentry would want Boris in any position of power over them. He has no time for the lower orders at all. He was pretty much the mayor for a small enclave of West London where the very rich live.

ElainaElephant · 04/10/2018 07:29

Firing line*

PillowOfSociety · 04/10/2018 07:34

And not the seeping Gollum that is Reed-Mogg, either.

PillowOfSociety · 04/10/2018 07:35

Agree, Boris was a crap Mayor. Parasitic in the work of others, corrupt, wasteful.

MargaretDribble · 04/10/2018 07:39

Theresa

I think she is fundamentally a decent woman doing a very difficult job.
Boris is a buffoon. I didn't vote Conservative so I can't threaten not to vote for them, but any kind of leadership challenge at present would make them look even more like idiots.

Villanellesproudmum · 04/10/2018 07:40

TM

MaruMaru · 04/10/2018 08:12

Theresa

Ifailed · 04/10/2018 08:15

Boris. He won't actually do anything (did fuck all as Mayor of London). Theresa seems to have the Sidam Touch as everything she's involved in turns to shit.

ArrivisteRevolt · 04/10/2018 08:37

To those people saying Boris is just an expensively educated buffoon:

You can’t know many expensively educated buffoons. I do, and someone as knowledgeable and intelligent is not the natural outcome.

I agree he is calculating and arrogant. But he is not a stereotype. He definitely is in politics for One Nation (including the ‘lower orders’-wtf). And for himself, because he believes he’s best placed to make a success of this. He’s a historian- he is expecting to be judged on outcomes.

I’m not a massive Boris fan, btw. I just think he has clear qualities.

StoneofDestiny · 04/10/2018 09:18

Arriviste
I know expensively educated people. I know well educated people. I can recognise a buffoon easily enough. Boris is a buffoon. Intelligence comes in many forms. His is a perverse, cunning and calculating mind devoid of moral character, real warmth and any empathy for those less privileged than he is. He is motivated by 'self' alone - and as such should never be in a position of power.

LittleLionMansMummy · 04/10/2018 09:22

Theresa. And I think most people agree, which is why she's still clinging on because Boris is the only real competition and that would be a complete disaster. I mean, even more of a complete disaster than the one currently unfolding very publically.

Either way, I'll run around London with a sausage up my bum if there isn't another GE shortly.

Unfinishedkitchen · 04/10/2018 09:54

What’s wrong with saying ‘Lower orders’? I am under no illusion that that’s what he thinks of the likes of me and my family. You could positively feel the disdain for the poor (anyone under £100k in his book) seeping from him when he was mayor of W1 for the rest of London.

He would not see me or you even as an equal. We are beneath him. Look at his Bullingdon club antics. Smashing up restaurants owned by hard working normal people who haven’t just been handed homes and immense wealth is all crazy japes and jolly good fun just like trying to secure thugs to kneecap journalists and being fired twice for lying.

SquishySquirmy · 04/10/2018 10:01

Theresa.

Boris is one of the least trustworthy politicians there has ever been. In fact I'd trust JR-Mogg (much as I dislike him) more than Boris in that at least I know where he stands on most issues. Boris is on the side of Boris, and is particularly dangerous as he is not nearly as clever as he thinks he is.

Unfortunately, I worry that he appears popular with many Tory party members..... who will ultimately be the ones choosing in a leadership contest.