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LEMtheoriginal · 01/10/2018 22:48

How can i hide a topic? I kniw how to hide threads but would like tohide a topic?

Thanks

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Goldenbug · 03/10/2018 21:20

To judge all trans people by the behaviour of the worst is kind of like judging all Muslims by the behaviour of the naughtiest of fundamentalists. The way "trans" seems to be conflated with paedophile or sex offender is pretty insidious too.

Hooray for hiding topics!

NotACleverName · 03/10/2018 21:37

Some posters in this thread have demonstrated quite well why other users want to hide FWR. It gets a little tiring being called a "dim handmaiden" or it be insinuated that you're a man because you dare disagree with what is apparently the accepted line of thinking.

On another note, AuntBeastie you are amazing.

Celebelly · 03/10/2018 21:44

@FenellaMaxwellsPony This is exactly what I wanted to say (but better). I have concerns about self ID, but I actually find the overall attitude towards transgender people on many of these threads incredibly self-defeating and actually damaging if the aim is to actually make a difference and spark healthy debate about self ID. The vitriol and snide comments about transwomen and the trans community in general totally ruin proper constructive discussion, and it's no surprise that people are turned off what would otherwise be a good opportunity to discuss something that a lot of people are concerned about. But it often seems to be a case of whoever shouts the loudest... And it's a difficult place to come in to with a dissenting opinion when the reaction can be so hostile - I'm no wallflower but even I choose not to post there after seeing how other posters have been treated.

BrownPaperTeddy · 03/10/2018 21:56

Some posters in this thread have demonstrated quite well why other users want to hide FWR. It gets a little tiring being called a "dim handmaiden" or it be insinuated that you're a man because you dare disagree with what is apparently the accepted line of thinking.

I agree completely. Will be looking to hide the fwr thread too. You can't post to say you don't agree with self ID but don't agree with all the rest without being called a handmaiden, a man or worse.

What's ironic is that posters argue that men are stopping women from speaking and then proceed to shut down anyone that expresses a different point of view.

7Days · 03/10/2018 22:04

Perhaps you could start a thread about self id and ask the fwr regs to stay away, they probably would . I'd like to hear the other side but I personally,anyway, would not comment.
It's an important topic so w worth a shot

AuntBeastie · 03/10/2018 22:14

Anyone else remember that thread in FWR from months ago where the OP said they were starting one thread that was trans-friendly and it got like 600 responses from anti-trans posters accusing the OP of being deliberately goady etc? I’ll see if I can find it. Sadly I think that shows how hard it is to put this particular viewpoint across on MN.

VerbeenaBeeks · 03/10/2018 22:23

Perhaps you could start a thread about self id and ask the fwr regs to stay away, they probably would

Erm, worth a try but I'd be willing to put money on that one being that they wouldn't - (stay away that is) Grin

AuntBeastie · 03/10/2018 22:24

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3147810-Trans-friendly-thread

A very useful case study!

AuntBeastie · 03/10/2018 22:27

In fact, the final comment of the thread could not be a more perfect illustration of the problems discussed on this thread if it tried:

I see op hasn’t been back and we TERF’s hmm and TRUSCUM hmm and anyone, who generally doesn’t adhere to the SJW TRA Antifa agenda (sorry if I missed anyone out, I’m learning fast) have hijacked her thread. In true mumsnet form. DFOD

MadameButterface · 03/10/2018 22:31

Same as Aunt Beastie, Rat, Dionne et al

I too don’t want blokes in women’s prisons or weightlifting comps but i am sick of seeing horrible stuff about individuals, or all trans people being conflated with middle aged agp men, or a thread where someone has dredged up something posted by an obviously incredibly young and stupid person on tumblr or twitter and it’s held up as an example of the ‘trans agenda’ . Any mention of the difficulties trans people face are misrepresented as a claim that ‘trans ppl are the most oppressed evah’ . Trans women are mocked and dismissed because of their appearances and level of ability to ‘pass’ by people who would quite rightly be horrified at born women having their right to voice opinions invalidated purely on the basis of how well they perform femininity or not. On and on it goes. And for all the back patting about how intelligent and unique the discourse is there, much of it boils down to the same stuff being virtually c&p’d, and if all else fails, a repeated demand that the person they are arguing with ‘defines what is a woman’

And the catastrophising!!! My god. If you say you don’t mind sharing a toilet with a trans woman it turns into ‘what so you’re ok with a middle aged agp man with a brownies fetish becoming your daughter’s brown owl and taking her camping then???’

Tch

RatRolyPoly · 03/10/2018 22:32

I remember that Aunt! Depressing.

SpoonBlender · 03/10/2018 22:37

Thanks AuntBestie for your articulate posts on this. I just popped back from page 1 to make sure everyone still knows how to kill topics again - www.mumsnet.com/Talk/topic-choice choice fans! - and I'm frankly astonished at the way the thread has gone. What a nonsense.

Anyway, thanks again and keep up the sanity! I'd give up on this particular thread though.

SpoonBlender · 03/10/2018 22:38

Augh AuntBeastie dammit fingers.

Yerroblemom1923 · 03/10/2018 22:40

Not read full thread, but why do people have to hide threads? Just don't read them. Read something else instead.

VerbeenaBeeks · 03/10/2018 22:44

Christ, that linked thread's a depressing read! Doesn't surprise me though.
You don't get past page damn one without "mate, read the room" and witty Hmm yawn comments. Sounds about right, have had all that and worse on here.

WorraLiberty · 03/10/2018 22:45

Yerroblemom, because some people want their 'Active conversations' list to be more relevant to their interests.

LEMtheoriginal · 04/10/2018 00:06

^that

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DioneTheDiabolist · 04/10/2018 00:09

Ikeasucks that was proposed here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3158090-New-sub-section-please

ohello · 04/10/2018 00:39

Yeah, go ahead and hide the feminism topics. Its no big deal. After all, the suffragettes were hysterical idiots and women didn't need the vote.
Right now the definition of woman is being widened to include men. This means women's hard-won rights and spaces like single sex spaces, sports, maternity rights etc will no longer mean anything and won't be protected. The law won't recognise us as a sex class affected by our biology hence in need of protection. But go ahead and stick your fingers in your ears and say 'blah blah'*

That. I don't have much respect for women who are content with a gilded cage while the rest of the coop burns to the ground. It is NO exaggeration to say that ransgenderism if left unchecked, will destroy EVERY right women ever fought for. Even the laws based on sex discrimination. Think about it, those laws exist because only one particular SEX CLASS is consistently treated worse than another specific sex class. So as soon as"men can get pregnant too" and "men can be not hired for these job in case they might get pregnant" then there is no more discrimination based on only one sex anymore! No cause, no lawsuit, suck it up and go home. Dear heart, your rights are toast at that point. It doesn't even take every sexist man and woman being an arsebucket to make this happen, it only takes enough sexist twats while too many other people stand around pretending they don't need to get involved.

VerbeenaBeeks · 04/10/2018 00:46

Nah. I have a problem with other women telling other women how they should or shouldn't be thinking.That pisses me off more.
As a woman, I'm just me.A person.Just presumably as men are. I don't need feeling alienated as you're posting against your sisters and all the bollocks I've seen spouted.
I'm me. No bloke. Nor so called handmaiden.

DioneTheDiabolist · 04/10/2018 01:52

I've just had a look at www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3147810-Trans-friendly-thread It did not surprise me. Women's voices are not welcome in FWR if they veer from the orthodoxy. That's why www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3158090-New-sub-section-please was opposed.

FWR regulars have made it clear that they don't want to hear the voices of anyone who doesn't toe their line regarding Trans. The above examples, along with the NSPCC (Speak Out Stay Safe and PANTS initiatives) and Stella Creasey (Make Misogyny a Crime) cancellations demonstrate this.

GinIsIn · 04/10/2018 03:46

transgenderism if left unchecked will destroy every right we ever fought for

What the hell is wrong with you, ohwllo?! If left “unchecked”?? You are talking about PEOPLE. Where is your compassion? My feminism means I want to see equal rights for all, not my rights at the expense of anyone else’s just because it took me longer to get them. I don’t recognise your feminism. How do you propose the “checking” is done? Are you going to round them up or something? Thank you for so nearly summing up all that is wrong with the feminism boards.

CrazyDuchess · 04/10/2018 06:08

Thank you @LEMtheoriginal and @AuntBeasties Flowers

I hut the feminist boards a long time ago exactly for the same reasons You've posted here. It's great to see that there are others that found the talk off putting and detrimental to their mental well-being.

The way "trans" seems to be conflated with paedophile or sex offender is pretty insidious too

^^ this

Conseulabananahammock · 04/10/2018 06:22

Ahhh finally. The women on these threads are horrific. The name calling and abuse if you disagree with them is venomous. Actually I will go as far as to say they've put me off further looking into feminism... so yeah hide away!!

LEMtheoriginal · 04/10/2018 06:33

Yep ohhello sums up the very reason that i look at fwr threads and go meh. The logic is skewed and quite frankly, scary - if that makes me an "asshat" or a handmaiden (whatever that is) so be it!

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