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How can i hide a topic? I kniw how to hide threads but would like tohide a topic?

Thanks

Haven’t RTFT, I hope you’re okay op. I hid the feminism thread a while ago too but I’m going to go back and hide AIBU also.

That doesn’t mean we don’t care about women’s rights. Quite the opposite. That’s why we want to see them apply to transwomen too.

Which women's rights would those be? The right to a safe abortion? The right to contraception? The right to smear tests on the NHS? Maternity rights? The right not to get sacked at work just because you are pregnant?

Shit I forgot, we are not supposed to centre reproductive systems in feminism are we? Munroe Bergdorf said so.

Which rights do you think trans people don't currently have?

if all words can only mean the sum of the meaning of other words? Isn't that rather circular??

lol no female is a biological description and woman is the name for an adult human female.

Excellent! Crack on.

Gee thanks. Didn't realise I needed your permission but thanks for giving it all the same.

Not remotely interested in your whataboutery.

Aah yes. The way to dismiss an argument - "you can't bring up a valid point because I've decided that is whataboutery."

Just approving of your strong opinion expressing ways, Teddy.

You know how the TERFs think they're being clever by derailing threads with recipes? Next time they post some of their bigotry, perhaps we should respond with pictures of cute hedgehogs

Ted, if you haven't lost the will to live with all the pages of crap to wade through, there's some cute little squirrels and bats etc.
Have you a piccy of a hedgehog? We haven't had a pic of a hedgehog yet.
Apparently they're passive aggressive cute animals though, the hypocrisy is astounding, this thread is actual comedy gold.

I'd love a picture of a hedgehog!

You know how the TERFs think they're being clever by derailing threads with recipes?

Yeah I think the recipes thing is tedious too I have to admit.

By the way, I'm pretty sure the guidelines say you can't use that term beginning with T anymore as many people find it offensive due to the way it has been used.

Which women's rights would those be? The right to a safe abortion? The right to contraception? The right to smear tests on the NHS? Maternity rights? The right not to get sacked at work just because you are pregnant?

So the only women's rights that you are concerned about relate to pregnancy and sexual health then?

So the only women's rights that you are concerned about relate to pregnancy and sexual health then?

As rights go they are pretty important, no?

They are biologically based rights. Erasing women as a sex class erodes those important protections.

Not if you are a woman who can't or doesn't want to be pregnant.

Quite sure there are plenty of other rights important to all women.

So the only women's rights that you are concerned about relate to pregnancy and sexual health then?

No, I didn't say this did I? I mean I would say they are fairly fundamental, but like I said I forgot that we have been told by the fragrant Munroe that centering reproductive systems is 'exclusionary' so silly me.

What rights do trans people not have that women do have?

Just as a point of fact, not all feminists agree as to the root of our oppression. Many feminists believe that we are not oppressed because of the biological reality of our sex, but because of the associated gender roles that came about as farming, trade and the age of empires progressed. No-one doubts that women are oppressed through the means of controlling their reproductive capacity, but we do disagree that the patriarchy is a foregone conclusion based on our different bodies.

I can evidence this quite handily by saying that in all human cultures there have been male and female bodies, but not all demonstrate female oppression, and not all that do demonstrate it to the same degree.

And yet male and female are still different, biologically speaking, to the same degree.

Boudicca is my favourite example. Pre the age of empires arriving in Britain, boudicca was definitely female. She had two daughters who were raped by the Romans who didn't understand a culture where women were respected and held power. She led an army of many British tribes against them. Why didn't the Brits know to disenfranchise her because of her biology? Is it because biology is not the root, but rather a culture-specific expectation of gender is?

So the right to a smear test only is relevant to women who want to be pregnant? That's great for those who don't then! The right to protection against perception by prospective employers that you will have a baby doesn't apply unless you want one?

"I didn't say I had any interest in doing so. It's you who is fixated on it. "

Oh I SEE - so when you post on threads its fine to repeat endlessly "So define Woman for me? Whats your definition of Woman? Justify your answers to me!" but when other people ask you to substantiate what YOU are saying, you nope out and expect everyone to just accept it?

I have certainly encountered that kind of viewpoint many times before, its usually when a middle-class white man is declaiming his oh-so-important views on something though, or from the anti-vaccination lobby.

But none of those rights will be eroded by transwomen. We aren’t all going to stop being given a smear test because Sam is now Samantha. Samantha, however, should absolutely be afforded the most fundamental of women’s rights, the one that was so hard fought for, and the one that is at the core of feminism for many of us - the right to equality.

Not if you are a woman who can't or doesn't want to be pregnant.

Ermmmmm, I would say that if you are a woman who doesn't want to be pregnant then reproductive rights are preeeeeeettty important!

I also knew this would be about Feminism board before opened it.
I hid Feminism ages ago and just been in and hid a load of other boards that don't interest me, baby names, conception etc.

Sad to see that an innocuous thread asking a techie question got derailed and is now all about trans.

but when other people ask you to substantiate what YOU are saying, you nope out and expect everyone to just accept it?

Apples and oranges. The definition of woman is a tad more important to this trans thread based conversation than who said what a few pages back. Most people here are focussing on that definition whatever they think.

But none of those rights will be eroded by transwomen.

It's an example of the importance of biology to women. Plus, you can't actually state that with any certainty. It's your belief.

But none of those rights will be eroded by transwomen. We aren’t all going to stop being given a smear test because Sam is now Samantha. Samantha, however, should absolutely be afforded the most fundamental of women’s rights, the one that was so hard fought for, and the one that is at the core of feminism for many of us - the right to equality

Well said.

But you can’t state that it will with any certainty either, and it’s a lot more likely, factually, that my statement is correct. Could you please tell me why you think trans rights will prevent you from having a smear test?

Ermmmmm, I would say that if you are a woman who doesn't want to be pregnant then reproductive rights are preeeeeeettty important!

In what way? Access to contraception - definitely. Anyone that doesn't want a child needs access to contraception and accepting that transwomen are women doesn't affect this.

Access to abortion - transwomen are not going to have any effect on abortion.

Samantha, however, should absolutely be afforded the most fundamental of women’s rights, the one that was so hard fought for, and the one that is at the core of feminism for many of us - the right to equality.

They should of course be afforded all human rights. They should have a space where they are comfortable. It isn't a human right to for male people to invade women's spaces and make women uncomfortable.