As someone who is not a FWR regular, even I can see that the only reason the "what is a woman" question is asked repeatedly is because IT IS NEVER ANSWERED. And it is fundamental.
So bring some facts to the fucking table or stop whingeing about all the dreadful transphobia and bigotry. It's just sad.
I've read a lot of these discussions, and the thing that stands out, like a hundred-foot-high fucking billboard with flashing lights and klaxons, is that all of the logic and reason is on one side. There's nothing on the genderist "side" but faith and let's-be-right-on wittering.
It's just bullshit that you all get "shouted down" by nasty bullies. Total rubbish. Use facts. Use logic. Use reason, if you have any.
If I was on a thread where every single poster was arguing that 2+2=5, and I argued that 2+2=4, I wouldn't run away moaning that I'd been shouted down and felt bullied, because I would know I was right fgs and I'd be able to prove it. Conversely, if I went onto a thread of 2+2=4s and I wished to argue that 2+2=5, I'd better be able to fucking justify my belief. No?
More power to Elephant and River on this thread - I don't know how you have the patience!