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Girl sat in blood soaked clothes after being told she couldnt go to the toilet and would require a £15 toilet pass.

452 replies

HelenaDove · 28/09/2018 18:25

metro.co.uk/2018/09/27/girl-sat-in-blood-soaked-clothes-after-teacher-said-she-couldnt-go-to-the-toilet-7984731/

FFS! What is wrong with some people And a £15 toilet pass. Misogyny and sex discrimination.

Two staff members also asked her what action the doctor was going to take to lighten her doctors flow.

Im absolutely furious reading this Im sorry if there already is a thread. I couldnt see one.

OP posts:
Passmethecrisps · 30/09/2018 14:44

People don’t often put two and two together when It comes to schools and discipline. It is other people’s children who are the problem and should be kept under rigorous control. Our own children must have free will.

I say that without being snide at all. I think it’s quite normal to not appreciate how strict rules filter down into this sort of issue.

I hate strict toilet bans by teachers. All that happens is I get a stream of kids asking me if they can go because they had two hours of chemistry with Mrs Blogs who doesn’t allow any trips and the kids can’t hold another hour until lunch

CraftyGin · 30/09/2018 15:13

I was chatting to a teacher friend, whose classroom is nearest to the toilets. The bursar issued her with a key to the boys’ cloakroom, and she locks and unlocks their toilets. The reason for this is that there is so much misbehaviour and vandalism, and no one lets on to the ringleaders.

The boys ask her why the girls’ toilet doesn’t get locked - because the girls look after their space!

So, in this school, it is the boys who face discrimination, not the girls.

yumyumpoppycat · 30/09/2018 15:27

The other problem with medication suggestion is that not everyone is always heavy or always light, it can be erratic and not a persistent enough problem to warrant medication.

Oliversmumsarmy · 30/09/2018 16:12

Ds's year 2 teacher wouldn't let children use the loo during lesson time.

Lots of time wasted as it became a thing that if you were in that particular class it was perfectly acceptable to wee on the floor.

Didn't affect ds though as she used to send him out of the classroom (for anything that annoyed her) so he would wander the corridors and go to the loo when he wanted to.
He once got sent out because he coughed (just back in school after a bout of viral pneumonia) which she would have known coughing was a side effect but he wasn't contagious if she hadn't turned her back on me and walked off mid sentence.

blueshoes · 30/09/2018 16:46

Is kirsty the toilet troll and hence his/her posts have been deleted by mn?

noblegiraffe · 30/09/2018 17:18

If not, they did a remarkable impersonation of him. The toilet troll usually poses as a teacher who doesn’t allow primary school children to the toilet in lessons, although they may be subtle about it (e.g. starts a thread saying ‘teachers, what annoys you in the classroom?’ and one of their list is ‘kids asking to go to the toilet’, hoping to spark discussion).

They’ve been doing it for years.

tattyteddy · 30/09/2018 17:25

As a grown woman if I leak the first thing I want to do is sort myself out and cleaned up. The poor girl needed some help!

Lweji · 30/09/2018 17:38

A doctor's note for a toilet pass?

What if someone has a bout of diarrhea? Hmm Would the teacher stay in class or go to the toilet?

Stupid, stupid, people.

JerryGiraffe · 30/09/2018 17:41

Needing to use the loo is a first world problem? Having a period is a first world problem? That is easily the stupidest thing I have heard for a long time. Awkward? Doesn't even come close!!

Gileswithachainsaw · 30/09/2018 17:46

No what that poster really meant was it's a cis privilege. They are some what a mra if memory serves correctly

ktp100 · 30/09/2018 17:48

As an ex-teacher who had year 7 form groups I find this so upsetting. That poor child must have been so embarrassed. The Mother is right to complain and I hope the doctors letter gets her a permanent pass. The school's pastoral care is hideous. This is not school improvement.

Happpydayz · 30/09/2018 17:48

Please don’t label all teachers as unsympathetic and not using common sense. There is so much teacher bashing and maybe in their school the management have told staff students can’t leave without a pass. Some school environments for staff at the moment are toxic and even with having a bit of understanding the teacher can’t cope with being chastised again for allowing a student out of class without a pass. We are not made to feel like human beings. It’s all ofsted ofsted, results, results.

Happpydayz · 30/09/2018 17:52

Although I must add, I often let students out to the loo. I can tell if they’re telling the truth or not I would always speak to a student who needed to go quickly to check they’re ok.

squeekums · 30/09/2018 18:08

That poor girl
Disgusting power trip by the teacher. Id be pushing to have their job honestly. They either change their ways or im petitioning for their head to roll for abuse. Having access to a toilet when needed is a human right. This girl was not only denied the ability to be sanitary but the humiliation aspect, if it were me, even now as an adult, leaking that bad id be so humiliated.

Ive told my dd from her very first day at school, if she needs to go to the toilet, tell the teacher so they know she is leaving class for a minute. If the teacher says no, tell them to call me and walk out, go to the toilet. I refuse to have my dd denied use of a toilet, that is unacceptable. As far as im concerned a teacher has no right to dictate toileting.

Chocolate50 · 30/09/2018 18:22

Disgrace, its a human right to be able to use the bloody toilet, what an awful school and position for that poor girl.

QueenoftheNights · 30/09/2018 18:27

Admittedly, it's a long time since I taught in sec schools, but I never ever used to stop anyone using the toilet in lesson times. As a teacher you son learn which kids are trying it on and which are genuine. You get to know your students. I'd never allow anyone to go in a convoy- ie on a whim just because their friend was had asked to go.

Holding on if you need the loo- for wees, poos etc is bad anyway for all kinds of health reasons- and bladders and bowels don't always work in tandem with lesson changeovers.

As a kid myself, a teacher would not let me use the toilet (I was in primary school.) I'd hung on for ages, trying to wait till home time, but even though it was nr home time I couldn't wait. I wet myself. I was so embarrassed and I never ever as a teacher wanted any kid to go through the same thing.

As I said, most teachers know the 'bad' kids and know which toilet requests are genuine.

GuidoTheKillerPimp · 30/09/2018 18:31

Late to the party, I know, but wrenika: are you a man? Because surely no woman in the world would describe this as a ‘first world problem’...🤔

KatherinaMinola · 30/09/2018 18:40

Please don’t label all teachers as unsympathetic and not using common sense. There is so much teacher bashing and maybe in their school the management have told staff students can’t leave without a pass.

Obviously they should refuse to comply with this unreasonable management request (if such it is). That's just common sense.

Everyoneiswingingit · 30/09/2018 18:42

This thread loses any credibility with that misleading title! Do you work for The Sun? You should!

busyhonestchildcarer · 30/09/2018 18:43

What the fuck is this.Why are we even discussing girl with period? Any person at any point should have access to a toilet whenever they need to go.This is the most ridiculous rule.all of you pupils get together and revolt.each one of you one at a time get up and go to the toilet and once one returns the next goes,keep this up throughout each and every class.no supervision is required for an 11 year old so absolutely no sane reason for this to be a rule .as for paying to go,dont then just piss in a bucket they will soon let you all go for free

Beesandfrogsandfleas · 30/09/2018 19:00

You are a childcarer ???

Beesandfrogsandfleas · 30/09/2018 19:06

So, in this school, it is the boys who face discrimination, not the girls
I would suggest that is a case of the boys facing the consequences of their actions. You vandalise the toilets, you don't get to use them unsupervised. Unfortunately it also affects the boys who wouldn't do that, but that is always the way in life.

smilingontheinside · 30/09/2018 19:06

What happened to kids going in break times? Apart from this exception which was period related are kids not able to hold on until break. We were never let out of class and never asked we went during break/lunch times unless we were ill same in work place Confused

Queenofthedrivensnow · 30/09/2018 19:19

Can we figure out the trans angle on this and how they are excluded somehow?

Gileswithachainsaw · 30/09/2018 19:20

It's not that they can't hold on.probably more if a case of not having time to go..short breaks and lunches and long queues for the canteen and toilets. By time they walked down several flights of stairs and navigated round the scuffles in the hallways and corridors I doubt there's tine for even the world's quickest tampon change