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Girl sat in blood soaked clothes after being told she couldnt go to the toilet and would require a £15 toilet pass.

452 replies

HelenaDove · 28/09/2018 18:25

metro.co.uk/2018/09/27/girl-sat-in-blood-soaked-clothes-after-teacher-said-she-couldnt-go-to-the-toilet-7984731/

FFS! What is wrong with some people And a £15 toilet pass. Misogyny and sex discrimination.

Two staff members also asked her what action the doctor was going to take to lighten her doctors flow.

Im absolutely furious reading this Im sorry if there already is a thread. I couldnt see one.

OP posts:
PhilomenaButterfly · 04/10/2018 04:37

Are you okay Aeroflot? Flowers

Aeroflotgirl · 04/10/2018 07:38

I am ok thanks Philomena, just a bit Blush I was sucked into a troll. I did have a bad experience on me. It seems so harsh in schools now. I went to a private senior school in the 90s, and there wasen't this issue. If we needed the toilet, we asked the teacher, who normally agreed. Girls did not abuse it and tended to ask when needed.

MulticolourMophead · 04/10/2018 07:53

I reported this one, was worried that @Aeroflotgirl was getting goaded by a troll. Sadly a subject with real life issues for women and girls being hijacked by sickos for their own amusement.

Sazar · 04/10/2018 18:18

Awful for the girl. However mum shoUldale have sent a note. I teach yr 5 and children are not allowed to go to the toilet unless they have a note.

Sazar · 04/10/2018 18:21

*should

mathanxiety · 04/10/2018 18:22

How can a mother send a note if the period starts during the school day?

Confused
mathanxiety · 04/10/2018 18:24

And quite seriously, what business is it of the teacher if a child has a period, or even a medical condition that warrants using the loo during class time?

There are privacy concerns here that need to be addressed.

Sazar · 04/10/2018 18:24

@mathanxiety.

Had the girls period started during the school day?

dementedpixie · 04/10/2018 18:26

A note for a period? Are you serious? Maybe she should have just handed you the bloody sanitary towel!

Sazar · 04/10/2018 18:33

@demented

Actually with my class I will make an exception if I think a girl is on a period but in yr 5 it is rare.

All I was getting it was if the rules are they can't go I would send a note if it was my daughter. As she says in the article she offered to let her have the day off so was aware.

mathanxiety · 04/10/2018 18:34

If a child experienced her first period during class then a mother couldn't write a note. In this case, the period had started on the weekend, but it is still 100% no business of the school that a girl has a period. Teachers should engage their brains a bit more than they appear to be doing, and also their hearts.

In general, a period is no business of a school. It's not a medical condition, but it does frequently require unpredictable loo use. The school can assume that girls will have need of sanpro dispensers (preferably free) in the bathrooms, and bins for disposal of sanpro, but individual privacy should be protected.

Sazar · 04/10/2018 18:38

@math
Which is why I said I will let a girl if I think it is a period and they don't have a note. This has only happened a few times in 8 years of teaching.

surreygirl1987 · 04/10/2018 18:45

"Teachers should engage their brains a bit more than they appear to be doing, and also their hearts."

Again I don't think it's always fair to blame an individual teacher. In many cases it's a school policy that is the issue and the teacher is caught between a rock and a hard place, wanting to do what they think is the right thing, but also wanting not to purposely break school policy!

I'm lucky in my job that there is no policy on this so I let any pupil go to the toilet that wants to. I think it is the right thing to do, and I have the luxury of well behaved kids - luckily I can trust most of them. Behaviour is great.

However in a previous job I remember all teachers being told by SLT that for Year 9 exam week pupils weren't allowed to go to the toilet during exams and only in the break. I was so unhappy with that rule and strongly disagreed with it. I brought it up with my line manager but has no impact. So I spent my whole time invigilating worrying that a pupil was going to want to go to the toilet and I was going to have to either disobey SLT's explicit instructions or say no, which I felt was morally wrong. Thankfully I didn't have to make that decision. But I don't think it's fair to always blame the teacher - it's often school leaders that are at fault... And they're often the ones with little actual contact time with the pupils (and the luxury of being able to go to the loo when they want!!).

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/10/2018 18:49

My DD started her periods before Yr 6 -

It's more and more common. So young to deal with it.

Periods are a natural part of female life, it's just another thing where society is not set up to take into account that girls needs differ from boys.

This subtle stuff is everywhere.

mathanxiety · 04/10/2018 18:50

It is becoming more common for girls of 9 and 10 to start their periods. Some ethnic groups are more likely than others to start younger.

mathanxiety · 04/10/2018 18:53

Agree, NothingOnTellyAgain - and it's not so subtle when you are right there on the ground dealing with it. When you look at it objectively, you have to wonder why sanpro dispensers require a coin - clearly anyone using a dispenser is experiencing an emergency. You can pick up condoms free in many places.

Sazar · 04/10/2018 18:54

@Nothingontelly

I have 15 girls one of whom has started. She brought a note and is allowed to go. I do keep an eye out when refusing girls though.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/10/2018 18:55

Because sanitary protection is a luxury and a treat, obviously!

lol

mathanxiety · 04/10/2018 19:32

I bet there is more than just one girl who has started, Sazar.

It's none of your business, nor the school's. It shouldn't ever be necessary to send a note.

surreygirl1987 · 04/10/2018 20:48

I wouldn't stop a boy from going to the toilet either though. All people deserve that right!

Sazar · 04/10/2018 21:14

@Surrey girl

Like you say if it is the policy. I don't necessarily agree but regardless of gender I have to say no.

surreygirl1987 · 04/10/2018 21:35

@sazar yes that makes it really difficult.

Poppylizzyrose · 04/10/2018 21:48

Sazar is the creep back again! They’re not a teacher, they’re just a sick fuck.

Please delete them MN and ban their IP address. Or I’m reporting this site.

Misshippi · 07/10/2018 00:13

One thing that really bugs me is kids wanting the loo in class.Mine are not allowed,that is what playtime is for.

Disgraceful that this girl wasn't allowed though.

SausageOnAFork · 07/10/2018 08:17

Do you understand how contradictory your statement is there, Misshippi?

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