Girl sat in blood soaked clothes after being told she couldnt go to the toilet and would require a £15 toilet pass.

[HelenaDove]

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FFS! What is wrong with some people And a £15 toilet pass. Misogyny and sex discrimination.

Two staff members also asked her what action the doctor was going to take to lighten her doctors flow.

Im absolutely furious reading this Im sorry if there already is a thread. I couldnt see one.

Not all the MC are included in that btw.

I find this absolutely appalling, that poor child must have been so uncomfortable and embarrassed. Why on Earth would a certificate be required? Just can't help but be concerned that people making decisions like this are supposed to be educating children. Mind boggling!

I'd be seriously concerned about a teacher who was so incapable of using their judgement and common sense in these circumstances and felt the need to stick to 'rules'.

The school is clearly run by knobs. Why should girls have to explain themselves. Maybe if they had a handle on discipline and the kids felt engaged there wouldn’t be the need for toilet passes! Surely the head should have said something along the lines of I’m mortified about the teachers humiliating and discriminating against one of the youngest pupils in our care. Myself and the staff involved have apologised unreservedly to the family and have put in place measures whereby this can never happen again! Rather than the kids only have themselves to blame!

This is dreadful. This is a high school. Most girls in the school will have started their periods.
Young girls who are inexperienced with dealing with periods are just not going to be as good as managing to make sure that they will be able to make it to the next break time. Add in to that how erratic they can be at that age.

I agree that the fag breaks issue doesn’t need mentioning though.

How can they stop her going to the toilet? They have no powers of detainment

Helena. There’s a group of pseudo liberals in this country who only care about causes endorsed by celebrities that they can discuss over drinks with other yummy mummies and dandy daddies. It’s not about caring it’s about SHOWING you care don’t you know

That's fucking shocking. Poor kid.

I used to get terrible period shits when I was 11-15, bloated, farting it was horrendous. I am so so so glad I went to a girls school. DD school has this policy so I wrote a scathing letter and she has a 'hall pass' but I hate to think of girls in this situation.

Oh god I remember that day. My trousers/underwear and jumped I wrapped around my waist to hide it al ruined and a wet chair left behind. Then waiting in the school office for my father to come in with clean clothes after the lesson. It’s outrageous!!!

It’s not a £15 toilet pass paid to the school is it? It reads more like you need a doctors note to get a toilet pass and the doctor’s letter costs £15?

Also the section about two members of staff asking what the dr will do to reduce the flow- I wonder if it’s more likely that they’ve said ‘maybe your mum/dad could take you to the doctors if it’s always this heavy’. The whole story strikes me as shocking and I can’t believe any female teachers have really forgotten what it’s like to be 11 and have your first period. I’m a teacher and I’ve even left school to buy girls trousers and underwear after they’ve flooded. We have a strict toilet policy but I always err on the side of caution where girls are concerned.

That’s just fucking sick really, isn’t it? Why should people pay £15 (which can actually make a difference to some) so that their daughter isn’t humiliated in front of her class?

Maybe the next time some fuckers start whining on about how parents should 'just obey uniform rules', they will have a think about this. Because it's exactly the mindset in the schools where they will give kids detention for an untucked shirt, or send them home for trousers that are not the exact shade of grey required, which leads to this sort of thing.
Rules are important. Children need to show respect, obey, conform. Teaching staff need to be constantly monitored and questioned, as well, just so that everybody understands that rules must be obeyed with no deviation and no independent thought.

Yeah, right. That's how you get this sort of thing happening. Poor, poor kid.

wrenika
Are you the teacher? What a pointless post.

As pp said you have obviously never experienced the joy of heavy and i mean changing sp every half hour periods never mind being an 11 year old scared she will bleed through her skirt in a mixed classtoom when its her first ever period.

But hey ho continue condoning girls and women being treated with contempt if it makes you feel good.

If one of my patients came to me for a doctor's note for this, I would be writing to the school to ask them to account for this abuse of their position of power over this vulnerable girl. Periods are a normal fact of life for girls, not a medical condition.

Besides, how on earth am I as a doctor supposed to confirm for the school that she has started her period beyond simply taking her word for it, as the school should be? Are they expecting me to perform some sort of intimate examination to prove she is not lying?

This is quite appalling. Poor kid!

I sincerely hope you and your daughter receive an official apology and that the teacher is told off in no uncertain terms.

Anyone with children at school, please tell them that going to the toilet, for whatever reason, is a right. All they need to say is, "Please excuse me, I must go to the toilet" - and go.

This is fucking outrageous!

This is really bad management totally agree that it just shows the lack of discipline in the school. Asking what they were planning to do to reduce an 11 year olds flow is outrageous.

I can give you two first hand instances. DS1s school, very poorly lead, the HT was utterly useless, she locked all the toilets due to perpetual flooding due to little shits shoving paper towels in the toilets, leaving taps running and EVERYONE had to go to her office for the key - we are talking a co-ed sec school of 1600 pupils circa 2006.

Second instance, DS3s school, refusal of a male pupil Y8 to go to the toilet, he dropped his pants and shat on the ICT suite floor, in Y10 the same pupil urinated in the school hall for a similar reason.

Unless you've worked in a school, or similar, and understand that not everyone is toilet trained, not everyone is house trained, some people have very different toilet habits and boundaries, some people are plain disruptive you wont understand why it is expected that the need to go to the toilet is as far as possible confined to lesson breaks, so roughly every 50-60 minutes.

Anyone who cannot manage for that length of time is quite likely to have a medical issue. BUT there are plenty of those parents who would write notes demanding Jaiden-Kai or Tiphney-Mae be allowed to leave lessons and corridor haunt have a lav break as and when they feel the need.

So, you have the few who spoil it for those in need. Obviously leaving lessons on a whim has been an issue and the school has had to clamp down in, what is, a ridiculously bureaucratic way.

Fucking disgraceful

I've noticed that in the past few years schools are being run in a dictatorial fashion with ridiculous rules and punishments for minor transgressions. Is it any wonder some children are suffering anxiety, poor mental health and not engaging or school refusing

I don't get why she needs a doctor's note. I thought periods were a normal part of female development rather than a medical condition requiring special treatment.

Well put pbdr.

As an aside I paid £25 for a doctors letter 3 years ago for a medical condition just to hand to the school. Needed only because the head is such a prick. GPs choose what to charge.

I hope this thread isn’t going to go the way of so many others. Some posters, who are adamant heavy periods are bs and expecting the girls to just change their sanitary wear at lunch.

Outrageous comment from the female staff members. The two ways I know to reduce flow is tranexamic acid and going on birth control, eg the coil or the pill. Not something I’d really want to entertain for an 11 yo if I could avoid it, especially the latter.

Shocking.