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Girl sat in blood soaked clothes after being told she couldnt go to the toilet and would require a £15 toilet pass.

452 replies

HelenaDove · 28/09/2018 18:25

metro.co.uk/2018/09/27/girl-sat-in-blood-soaked-clothes-after-teacher-said-she-couldnt-go-to-the-toilet-7984731/

FFS! What is wrong with some people And a £15 toilet pass. Misogyny and sex discrimination.

Two staff members also asked her what action the doctor was going to take to lighten her doctors flow.

Im absolutely furious reading this Im sorry if there already is a thread. I couldnt see one.

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DrCoconut · 29/09/2018 18:10

I thought this kind of thing had been left behind in the 90's. I remember not being allowed to use the toilet at school and also things like drinks and sun cream being banned. The good old days...not.

SnuggyBuggy · 29/09/2018 18:20

A lot of threads on here have put me right of academies

YoThePussy · 29/09/2018 18:26

I went to a mixed school and can remember one summer, think I was 12 or 13, getting my period and it soaking through my pale coloured school dress. I was mortified at the thought of walking out of class past all the boys. A friend seeing my distress spoke to the teacher and was allowed to fetch her gym skirt for me to wear home.

I think both mine and my friends’ parents would have served the teacher’s arse to them on a plate if appropriate help hadn’t been given.

PhilomenaButterfly · 29/09/2018 19:00

20 minutes is a bit different from 2 hours kirsty.

mathanxiety · 30/09/2018 03:41

kirstybabe Sat 29-Sep-18 14:05:35
Has no one thought of why this rule has been implemented?

This rule was implemented in a culture where the students are seen as 'the enemy'.

It's a rule that is intended to take the place of a proper intervention protocol in a school - so it's a means of dealing with students' problems on the cheap. In a culture where students are seen as 'the enemy' it is easy to dismiss the students as troublemakers and to punish the many for what is seen as 'trouble' caused by the few.

It's a rule that arises in a culture where hierarchies are very rigid and trust is completely absent.

(A proper intervention protocol would include teachers noting what students seemed to be skipping to the loo very frequently, and investigation of this, with appropriate intervention, including testing for ASD, dyslexia, FGM, investigation of possible problems at home, neglect of medical conditions, abuse, other reasons for disengagement.)

Geraldine170 · 30/09/2018 04:29

If she’s got a flow that heavy she has to change her protection more than once and hour, it’s sad her Mum isn’t going to let her take something to reduce the flow.

I have periods like that. I have tranexmic and menafemic acid now. I believe the pill also helps some women. Before I had them treated they were so heavy I could go through a superplus tampax and a night time pad in 15 minutes. Had to wear Tena lady pants in bed. I was effectively housebound during my periods.

Feel sorry for this girl if it’s that bad and she’s not allowed to treat it.

mathanxiety · 30/09/2018 04:34

This was her first period Geraldine.

Stillwishihadabs · 30/09/2018 06:54

Thank you Math put it so much more eloquently than I could.

Tunnocks34 · 30/09/2018 08:07

Exactly math, and actually, exactly what we do at our school. Pupils have pages in their planners which teachers sign when they need the toilet in lesson. If they have a large amount of ‘toilet passes’ (which are given freely and only refused in very obvious cases where pupils are taking the mick) then this gets passed on to their head of year who will discuss what is happening with the pupil, if we can help, and where needed, escalate this to safeguarding.

Aeroflotgirl · 30/09/2018 08:47

Its a disgrace, basic human rights. Yet again, girls being treated unfairly to the boys in the school system. Why shoukd doctors' time be wasted and an already overstretched NHS system be overloaded, by schools outlandish requests.

Gileswithachainsaw · 30/09/2018 10:01

You have put it perfectly math

Sometimes I wonder why these people even bother working in schools they seem to hate kids and expect them to be nothing but trouble. Then unsurprised when it all becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

In particular we seem to be going back to times where girls do not appear to be deserving of an education. Treated as evil sirens out to distract the boys with their shirt skirts and tight trousers. The fact they have natural bodily functions such as periods is seen as problematic and something to use to humiliate them further. Something.if else these pesky girls "do wrong" Their place is nothing more than buffer zones and bait dogs. The fact sone one can do this then suggest medication on the basis of one period that just started merely so she doesn't have to go to the loo in class shows they aren't even seen as people.

Aeroflotgirl · 30/09/2018 10:31

I agree Gileswith, the education system hates girls, what with girls bodies not fitting properly into school regulation skirts because of their natural shape, and their blooming periods disrupting things, and being attacked by boys at school, and having to share a classroom with their attacker.

Willow2017 · 30/09/2018 10:38

geraldine
You would put your 11yr old on heavy medication or hormones before her body has even started to fully develope?

Nice.

Aeroflotgirl · 30/09/2018 10:40

Why should parents put their girls on medication to stop what is a normal part of being a girl. I would only do that, if her periods were medically affecting her. I would not pump my 11 year old full of unesessary hormones.

Gileswithachainsaw · 30/09/2018 10:47

Medication isn't even a solution. Sometimes it doesn't work or it makes things worse. She would still need the toilet in class Hmm

How dare they. Sorry teach you might need to spend two mins telling her what she missed and/Or 're-engage the kid you stuck her next to yourself for a few mins.

AnnaFiveTowns · 30/09/2018 10:52

Let me guess - it's a fucking academy school?

AnnaFiveTowns · 30/09/2018 11:00

I'm currently working in secondary schools and the amount of times children have been told they can't go to the toilet. It's absolutely unacceptable! It's a basic human right, period or no period. My DD wet herself in front of the whole class in year 7 because she was desperate but didn't dare ask to go to the toilet. She'd tried to go at break but the queue was so long that she was worried she'd be late for lessons.

I really think that this issue in schools needs addressing. And toilet passes are not enough because they stigmatise the user.

I don't care if some kids mess around in the toilets, blah, blah, blah - then they need to get more staff to supervise the toilets.

I'm actually livid about this.

PhilomenaButterfly · 30/09/2018 11:06

Oh, I hope not, DD's first and second choices are both academies, although her first choice is a girls' school, so hopefully more understanding?

noblegiraffe · 30/09/2018 11:29

Dear god will people stop sharing stories of kids wetting themselves in public on this thread. The toilet troll has already been stringing it out and is no doubt still reading.

SnuggyBuggy · 30/09/2018 11:44

I do think it's a valid topic that has affected lots of people but I agree the toilet troll needs a better hobby

Aeroflotgirl · 30/09/2018 13:17

noblegiraffe this is a real issue affecting girls in schools.

noblegiraffe · 30/09/2018 13:32

I know, Aeroflot and it is perfectly possible to discuss it without anecdotes about kids pissing themselves.

Knowing that there are people reading (and participating) in the thread getting kicks out of these stories should really put people off from oversharing.

MilkyTea20 · 30/09/2018 13:47

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noblegiraffe · 30/09/2018 13:59

How odd, Milky that on another thread you were totally in favour of excessively strict school rules and yet are appalled at the inevitable consequences of rigidly enforcing them on this one.

CraftyGin · 30/09/2018 14:38

I don't care if some kids mess around in the toilets, blah, blah, blah - then they need to get more staff to supervise the toilets

Kids messing around in the toilets can often mean the toilets get vandalised, eg blocked with rolls of toilet paper, which puts the toilets out of action for everyone. It doesn’t take many kids to do this - 3 or 4 in a school community is enough.

How do you suggest supervising the toilets during lesson times?