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Girl sat in blood soaked clothes after being told she couldnt go to the toilet and would require a £15 toilet pass.

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HelenaDove · 28/09/2018 18:25

metro.co.uk/2018/09/27/girl-sat-in-blood-soaked-clothes-after-teacher-said-she-couldnt-go-to-the-toilet-7984731/

FFS! What is wrong with some people And a £15 toilet pass. Misogyny and sex discrimination.

Two staff members also asked her what action the doctor was going to take to lighten her doctors flow.

Im absolutely furious reading this Im sorry if there already is a thread. I couldnt see one.

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ilovesooty · 29/09/2018 14:03

No the article doesn't say that but since she started on Saturday why didn't her mother contact the school on Monday morning to give them a heads up or send her daughter in with a note to show staff? It would have been sensible to take those steps to help a girl who of course needed to be allowed out of class.

HelenaDove · 29/09/2018 14:03

"Expecting a girl to fork out money for a doctors certificate just because she has periods? Really??"

Exactly Yet a pp says its nothing to do with poverty Are some people really this thick

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kirstybabe · 29/09/2018 14:05

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Bluelady · 29/09/2018 14:12

Sadism? Which you appear to understand all too well.

SnuggyBuggy · 29/09/2018 14:13

The reasons for the rule being implemented aren't her burden to bear

Stillwishihadabs · 29/09/2018 14:16

I can't believe posters are defending the school DID YOU MISS WHERE IT SAID SHE WAS 11, SO HAS BEEN AT SECONDARY SCHOOL FOR 2 WEEKS ??(Yes I'm shouting) the poor girl, starting senior school getting your first period in the same month.
I am sure a savvier parent would have sent a note, but maybe the mother is also adjusting to the new expectations ? As far as I know no primary school has such ridiculous rules, so perhaps the mum didn't know. Anyway it sure as fuck isn't the little girl (which at 11she still is)'s fault.

MulticolourMophead · 29/09/2018 14:18

A lot of teachers on here have clarified that they can tell between those who need to go and those wanting to mess about, Kirsty

And all rules need to be flexible not Draconian.

In that case of my daughter and I, our periods make it look like a scene from Carrie. Even if we're prepared, we can still need a dash to the toilet.

kirstybabe · 29/09/2018 14:24

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Stillwishihadabs · 29/09/2018 14:30

As a doctor, a mother of a Y7 girl and someone who had a period accident in school - which still haunts me now, it's an indefensible policy.

PhilomenaButterfly · 29/09/2018 14:31

And it's because of a teacher like you that DS in year 3 shat himself the other day kirsty. I've told him that if he's going to poo himself he should go anyway.

Stillwishihadabs · 29/09/2018 14:35

If there is low level disruption, then deal with that. If the lessons are engaging only those who really need to go will ask. Taking away young people's autonomy solves nothing.

Polkasq · 29/09/2018 14:41

I don't think anyone should be denied access to the loo. If there are troublemakers or skivers then address the reasons for their behaviour and use sanctions. Don't just withdraw the facility! Angry

Polkasq · 29/09/2018 14:45

"Teachers can tell if it’s a true emergency? Really?"

I agree with Peggy. Not every child will show outward signs, or be confident enough to protest or even ask more than once, if they've been told to take no as the answer.

TwistedStitch · 29/09/2018 14:48

Ilovesooty it probably didn't occur to the parents that any teacher would be such a cruel jobsworth, so incapable of using their judgement, that they would deny a bleeding girl access to a toilet.

ilovesooty · 29/09/2018 14:51

I'm not defending refusal to allow her to go - of course she should have been allowed but the statement that low level disruption has to be the fault of teachers for not making lessons sufficiently engaging is indefensible.

ilovesooty · 29/09/2018 14:55

Twisted Stitch as a teacher I was disciplined for leaving a sixth form class for 5 minutes to deal with an IBS related need. Teachers were regularly censured for allowing pupils to leave class for the toilet.
I still think this girl should have been allowed to go but a note or call to the school might well have helped and it's hardly rocket science to think of it.

PreggyPeggy · 29/09/2018 14:56

@polkasq

Yip, completely agree.

Although Kirsty’s pupil did show outward signs that she needed to go and protested for 2 hours but control freak Kirsty still didn’t let her go. An absolute shambolic show from a teacher if you ask me.

HelenaDove · 29/09/2018 14:57

i wonder how or indeed if Hastings Academy will deal with any bullying that will arise as a result of their own bullying what they did.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 29/09/2018 15:08

kirsybaby
Did you read about my dd and not telling her teacher something was wrong despite having a diagnosed medical condition?

In a utopia no, children should not need to go to the loo during lesson times after yr3. And you sure punished that little girl in your year 6 class, who didn’t live up to that.

You made her sit desperate for a wee. She will have learnt nothing that afternoon all because you didn’t want to excuse her for 5 mins. She will also be terrified of asking you now and if she is unfortunate to have a period during lesson times she will flood the seat all thanks to your rules. Children, who are scared of their teachers only learn to please them, not the subject matter at hand.

dorisdog · 29/09/2018 15:10

I was fuming when I read this. £15 toilet passes? WTAF?

Stillwishihadabs · 29/09/2018 15:11

I don't thin I said low level disruption was teachers' fault. What I meant to say was that restricting acsess to the toliet is a horrible policey and no way to deal with it.

Stillwishihadabs · 29/09/2018 15:12

Think not thin

Bluelady · 29/09/2018 15:20

If I was kept from the loo for two hours I'd end up wetting myself, probably within the first 30 minutes. I can't even begin to imagine the agony that poor child went through. Surely it would be easier to let her go than have two hours "pestering"

blueshoes · 29/09/2018 15:42

Most times the little irritations of school rigidity do not spur me into action as I have to pick my battles. On the other hand, if I was the parent of a child who was not allowed to go to the loo for 2 hours, kirsty sounds like a delightful project for a lawyer parent to take on. First stop, headteacher, then who knows ... maybe the daily mail will pick up on this one ...

qumquat · 29/09/2018 16:30

I’m a teacher at a girls’ school and the Deputy Head once said that she said to girls who ‘used their period as an excuse to go to the toilet’ ‘it’s not going to pour down your leg’. She clearly was blessed with very light periods as she had no concept that this was indeed what would happen. I always let girls go to the toilet unless they are asking all the time and it’s clearly an avoidance tactic.