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Girl sat in blood soaked clothes after being told she couldnt go to the toilet and would require a £15 toilet pass.

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HelenaDove · 28/09/2018 18:25

metro.co.uk/2018/09/27/girl-sat-in-blood-soaked-clothes-after-teacher-said-she-couldnt-go-to-the-toilet-7984731/

FFS! What is wrong with some people And a £15 toilet pass. Misogyny and sex discrimination.

Two staff members also asked her what action the doctor was going to take to lighten her doctors flow.

Im absolutely furious reading this Im sorry if there already is a thread. I couldnt see one.

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kirstybabe · 29/09/2018 13:02

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ilovesooty · 29/09/2018 13:04

It must have been really distressing for that girl. However what puzzles me is that there seems to be no mention of her mother contacting the school or sending her daughter in with a note. Did that not happen?

SoupDragon · 29/09/2018 13:07

No but both genders will need a pass therefore it is not sexist.

Is is when one sex has greater need for access to toilets for ordinary bodily functions.

gylly · 29/09/2018 13:08

Kirsty - you are wrong. Of course it's sexist and SoupDragon has explained it well.

If you offer someone a job and then withdraw the offer because you discover they are pregnant you have sexually discriminated against the applicant. You would not have a defence if you said you that you would also reject a male applicant who wanted to 6 months off work.

The student is suffering a detriment because she has periods. Only females have periods, therefore it's discrimination.

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SoupDragon · 29/09/2018 13:08

Expecting a girl to fork out money for a doctors certificate just because she has periods? Really??

Mummyoflittledragon · 29/09/2018 13:08

Kirstybabe
Perhaps it’s not ‘sexist’ as both sexes are treated equally. However it’s stupid because girls are more likely than boys to need access to the loo in class time. I’m sure if men had periods, boys would be able to leave the class without asking.

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PhilomenaButterfly · 29/09/2018 13:12

ilovesooty her first period came on in class. Was her mum supposed to predict that?

abbsisspartacus · 29/09/2018 13:21

Does she need a Drs note every month?

PreggyPeggy · 29/09/2018 13:27

@kirstybabe

“Actually no teachers do not leave the class to go to the loo”

So you’re telling me if you were sitting there with a period that heavy, it was soaking through your clothes, you wouldn’t leave to go to the toilet? You’d leave it and let yourself get covered in blood in front of your students?

You also say you expect the girls to tell you that they’re on their period before you let them go. If you were on your period and HAD to go to the toilet during a lesson for that reason, you’d announce to the class you were going to the toilet and why then, right?

Sounds to me like you love the control you have over these poor kids.

Frequency · 29/09/2018 13:37

If men had periods, tampons would be free, period related illness would be properly researched and treated and time off work for period issues would be not only acceptable but expected.

But men don't have periods, so we put up with this crap instead. Did the article say if the teacher was male or female?

HundredsAndThousandsOfThem · 29/09/2018 13:38

Girls know the rules in my class yet they don't bring a note.

You're being absurd. What if they suddenly need the loo because of something they ate? What if they just drank a lot after running around at lunch and now desperately need a wee? What if they suddenly flood?

Most of the times I've suddenly needed the loo it would have been unexpected. I certainly couldn't have obtained a note in advance. I have no doubt that there will have been children sitting in your class for 2 hours under enormous amounts of stress and anxiety desperate for the end of the day to come so they can just the bloody loo!

SnuggyBuggy · 29/09/2018 13:42

So when the time comes should I send DD in with a note to say she is a post pubescent female and will be having regular periods? 🙄

Aren't notes supposed to be for unusual situations not normal human biology?

CraftyGin · 29/09/2018 13:42

her first period came on in class. Was her mum supposed to predict that?

According to her mother, it was Saturday.

0ccamsRazor · 29/09/2018 13:46

The school staff should be ashamed of themselves. Poor girl.

I have always told my dc that if they need to go to the loo then do so, obviously letting the teacher know. I have told them that if there are any issues then they are to let me know and I will take it up with the school.

Ffs, adults at work don't have to ask for permission to go to the lavatory, why should children?

Mummyoflittledragon · 29/09/2018 13:46

Kirsty
How do I work that out? I’ve been on the planet a long time. The majority of men are clueless about a lot of things to do with women. Women are mostly the butt of ridicule when having their period or premenstrual. We only have to look at the very little parents have traditionally taught their daughters about how their bodies function to know it. Western society is and has been governed by men. Period equalling dirty and taboo.

PreggyPeggy
I think you’re wasting your breath. I don’t think Kirsty gets heavy periods or understands them.

PhilomenaButterfly · 29/09/2018 13:51

My mistake Crafty, I've just reread it. But apparently a note wouldn't have been enough, she needed a doctor's letter, which is bizarre.

0ccamsRazor · 29/09/2018 13:53

And kirstybabe you are coming across as a control freak.

No one should have to ask permission to use a lavatory, by all means inform a person politely as that is just basic good manners.

School children in this country are some of the most anxious and stressed in the eu. Maybe these ridiculous rules need to be discarded and our education system be overhauled and modenised?

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PreggyPeggy · 29/09/2018 13:57

@occamsRazor - I am in total agreement with you and have told my 2 girls the same. Especially after my eldest wasn’t allowed to leave the class to go to the toilet when she was 6 and because of this, wet herself. To say I was fuming is an understatement.

@mummyoflittledragon - yes I think you are right. I also don’t think she understands that sometimes children do have an urgent and unpredictable need to go to the toilet, whether it be periods, diarrhoea or whatever... especially from reading her comment that she let a little girl pester her for 2 hours to go to the toilet but she didn’t let her.

I honestly cannot believe that there is so much hype around the refusal to let kids go to the toilet - it shouldn’t even be a thing! If someone needs the toilet - male, female, adult or child then they should be allowed to go. End of! I think it’s an absolute outrage that an adult, especially a teacher, would use their control to prevent this.

PhilomenaButterfly · 29/09/2018 13:58

That's not what the article says kirsty.

HelenaDove · 29/09/2018 13:59

InertPotato Sat 29-Sep-18 10:55:06

"I'd be more interested in this story were it from something other than a tabloid, offering more than a one-sided account."

There are two separate sources i did find a second one How many do you want a third a fourth. RTFT

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