Couple charged with assault for trying to buy water in Rochdale Tesco

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Obviously don’t know the full facts, but the photos
Show the police being pretty heavy handed.

They look Muslim, so presume don’t drink alcohol, they have regularly buy the water from other branches of Tesco.
This behaviour by the police looks like the sort of treatment meted out by racist officers towards African Americans in the US.

I am disgusted by the thuggish behaviour of the police and I hope Mr. Hussain succeeds in his complaint to the PCC.

According to people who were there the man threw a water bottle at the cashier's face and that's where the blood on the floor came from!!

Times .like this i wish tesco.and the police would release their uncut footage. show what really.happened

Apparently there was a video of the bottle being thrown at the cashier but it's been taken down as evidence.

Times .like this i wish tesco.and the police would release their uncut footage. show what really.happened

Annoyingly they can't. The couple have been charged with assaulting police, so releasing the footage will be seen to prejudice their trial.

Personally, I'm of the opinion if a defendant wants to make part of the evidence (whether for or against them) public, then they waive that right.

I also think senior officers should grow a fucking back bone and support their officers rather than their usual hiding at times like this. With anything even remotely controversial, the Politician ranks fence sit on the fence to see which way the wind blows. (Don't want to affect the QPM old boy) You can guarantee they won't release that after trial to keep "community relations"

I agree with your point about the bosses publicly speaking out but rarely done. I read one pres release from a boss at WYP (I think) who supported his cops after a similar incident and I nearly fell off my chair. Was heartening to read and should happen more often.

What's all this about coppers' wives, aren't women allowed to be coppers themselves any more?

Was heartening to read and should happen more often.

It's not difficult is It? They have the full info and access to all CCTV/Recordings. They could nip this in the bud very easily. If the officers are in the wrong say so! Equally if it is clear, (which it really is from the video) that their officers were acting lawfully, fucking say so.

We both know why they don't. #promotionoverleadership

But then again, if bosses had to do this after every time a video pops up they would be doing nothing else, and if they don't put a comment out then it would look like they couldn't say anything positive IYSWIM?

The couple arrested have tried to frame this as racism when this isn't the case at all. The police were already in the store when this was going on and Mr Hussain called the police over after he was asked to leave.

Apparently this couple threw bottles (conveniently not in their footage) and resisted arrest. What else were the police supposed to do other than arrest using reasonable force? They both were resisting.

But then again, if bosses had to do this after every time a video pops up they would be doing nothing else, and if they don't put a comment out then it would look like they couldn't say anything positive IYSWIM?

Well they're hardly busy are they?
They're forever tweeting, and it's not like they're not aware of the horse shit being spouted on social media about this incident. I think that ignoring it is far more damaging. Although they've taken the incredibly brave steps of throwing their officers to the wolves to appear transparant referring it to the IPCC

Framing it as racism seems pretty funny when the Tesco manager telling them off looks like the same ethnic group (I am guessing all were Pakistani).

I didn't know it was illegal to buy bottles from supermarket & sell on. Presumably not illegal for charities to buy & sell at small fundraisers, though? Every day's a school day.

It's not illegal.

I think you conducted yourself with grace. Continue to shine a spotlight on wrong doing or what will happen to us all

are these people watching a different video to the one i saw?

even the headline on the article linked in the top
This is the moment a couple ‘attack’ a police officer after Tesco ‘refuse to sell them over 20 bottles of water’.

this guy is talking sense

willingly getting yourself humiliated over half price volvic is the true definition of pettiness.

i personally would never record people over a bottle of water, definitely no. if he had a issue get in touch with the tesco hq n make a complaint or inquire about purchase policy. absolute no reason to record staff without their permission.

however, if i cut it to make it look like he is supporting the couple

i personally would never record people over a bottle of water, definitely no.

makes it a bit different? (thats to the couple-did-no-wrong brigade btw)

(from the facebook page)
Ppl who try to embarrass and intimidate staff in low paid menial jobs need a good kicking. Especially when their whole motive is to be a cheap skate.
Mste, Martin Luther King gave his life up to be an activist, you try to do it on sale 😂

You even called the police to further amp up the bullying of staff who work hard, whose feet hurt, have a hard time wirh dickheads like you everyday. You actually thought distressing and harassing staff in a supermarket was a valid course of action because you couldn't save yourself 2 quid. .

That's desperately obnoxious and highly egotistical in attitude. Rather than leaving with dignity having been cordially requested a million times, you continues to aggravate the situation by playing "Mr Activist and his Merry Helper", putting your hands in your pockets to discuss law enforcement "right to touch civilians" like you were about to have a meeting on the UN Charter for Human Rights (right in the middle of a supermarket).
You were then accosted to leave and like a 2 year old throwing a tantrum you grabbed the wall illustrating no desire to leave. On apprehension the officer made a misjudgment in his level of "reasonable force" which is entirely forgivable for someone working a high pressure and highly dynamic job role where they have to manage arrogant morons like you. Expecting perfection from our law enforcement is extreme and stems only from an anti establishment attitude that should be best left to fester amongst the criminal and underachieving sections of society. Not so called teachers and entrepreneurs as you have stated yourselves to be.

You have delusions of grandeur and I hope Tesco take action against you. Perhaps community service and a fine would be an appropriate punishment and deterrent. Prison would be excessive, you might even write a book about your struggle in there. Nobidy would want that.

and

I haven't even mentioned the fact you hurled a bottle in the general direction of a cashier (assault), that your wife lied hysterically about being punched (obstruction of justice if under oath), that you are a reseller for profit (Islamiscally unethical) and you have failed to clear up the rumour that there wss blood on the floor, which was actually a random spillage (twisting facts for sympathy).

I saw that post and gave him a hand clap. Poor sod though, cut people telling him he's a bad Muslim now.

Cue

No it's not illegal to buy them, and once they are yours, you can do whatever you like with them . But it is also perfectly legal for Tesco to refuse to sell them (or anything at all for that matter) as it makes no business sense to sell loss leaders by the trolley full to a single customer.

Good lord. I've just watched the video. Honestly I think the police showed restraint. Fucking shameful behaviour.

Yeah, and that is with a few minutes of video footage missing of the policeman trying to speak reasonably to him.

You can tell a lot about people by he way they speak to others. The way that guy spoke to he Tesco employee was very telling.

On his Facebook page he says

"I was compliant, I was willing to stop recording and go outside with officer."

I don't understand why there is any video because if he was willing to stop recording there wouldn't be a video and if he was willing to go outside there would be nothing to record anyway.

I thought the police heavy-handed.

That bloody woman with the purple cardigan on was so annoying. "Calm down, calm down". When has saying "calm down" ever made someone calm down! There's always one - interfering and inflaming a situation with her patronising "calm down" while trying to come over as caring and "aren't I a lovely person helping". The little Tesco worker stepping in front of the people on the floor is annoying too - what you trying to hide and why?!

It's pretty obvious why she was standing in front of the camera.

What a loathsome and obnoxious pair! And devious to boot since they seem to have had an agenda to purposely escalate the situation, perhaps for notoriety. It is really rather disingenuous to try and paint this as a racially aggravated incident, the security guard and a number of staff are not white either. These kind of allegations undermine those that genuinely suffered from discrimination. Stores do put a limit on some items to stop bulk buying and ensuring that they have enough stock for other customers. No one needs that many bottles for personal use for a (few) day(s). They could have returned the next day and bought 20 more bottles. The male customer was aggressive from the outset and summoned over the police in an arrogant and really rude manner. He was presumptuous and ignorant about filming on private property too and behaved like an entitled brat. He was asked to leave and HE escalated the situation to the point he needed restraining. Both should have left when asked to leave. I also find it outrageous that the woman screeched and made false allegations of violence to further inflame the incident when she was not mishandled. I would not want someone with such a terrible attitude and distorted moral compass to teach my DC.

I think people are getting sidetracked with how many bottles are allowed, woman falsely shouting about hitting, punching etc (should get an Oscars for that performance). I think the main issue is that the officers were heavy handed as lizzie1970 said and the officer took a swing at the man. You can see this clearly in the link posted at 23.23 by klutzy