To actually want a labour government

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As there is a Corbyn bashing thread, I thought I would start an opposing one.

I want a Labour government. I think they offer more of a vision for a fairer country that the current shambolic Tory visionless one.

I want nationalised railways and for the rich corporations to be taxed more to pay for it. I would like to see disabled people treated fairly and not sanctioned and made to live in poverty. I want proper housing regulation for people who rent.

Theresa May pretty much said today in New York that the Uk will become a deregulated tax haven. The NHS will be sold off.

I want labour in power because at the moment they offer some hope an a vision of a different country. The Tories offer nothing but out of touch privileged etonians who want to strip the country bare.

So, aibu?

Yanbu, but good luck
You will be told how labour is to blame for all the failings of this government,

Orwell on socialism - he really had this covered didnt he - remind you of any two politicians in particular?

Orwell. "Meanwhile, what about socialism? The first thing that must strike any outside observer is that Socialism, in its developed form is a theory confined entirely to the middle classes. The typical Socialist is not, as tremulous old ladies imagine, a ferocious-looking working man with greasy overalls and a raucous voice. He is either a youthful snob-Bolshevik who in five years’ time will quite probably have made a wealthy marriage and been converted to Roman Catholicism; or, still more typically, a prim little man with a white-collar job, usually a secret teetotaller and often with vegetarian leanings, with a history of Nonconformity behind him, and, above all, with a social position which he has no intention of forfeiting."

I want a country where people have equality of opportunity. Where all kids have access to good healthcare, good schools and good education. Where the environment is protected. Where a fair but decent welfare state protects the weak. Where decent housing is the norm. Where knowledge based industry and manufacturing thrives. Where big corps pay their taxes and that tax money is wisely spent.

I’m also politically homeless because labour right now are pursuing incredibly misogynistic policies and I cannot vote for a party that wants to strip women’s rights.

Not BU as far as I’m concerned.

It’s all very well having a vision

You need money to pay for it and upping taxes with Brexit happening isn’t a very smart move

For all the same reasons, I agree. This country will be a deregulated hell hole under the Tories after Brexit.

Yabu

As I’ve said elsewhere, I don’t want to live in a country where my Jewish friends feel unwelcome and unsafe.
It’s a no from me.

Yanbu.

So why aibu @mycatplotsdeath? What kind of country do you want?

The Tories offer nothing but out of touch privileged Etonians who want to strip the country bare

Only 1 in 10 went to Eton and they arent reflected in the cabinet in any great numbers. 68% were state education

Lets have some facts for once

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-32692789

www.statista.com/chart/5269/the-makeup-of-mays-new-cabinet/

I thought I wanted a Labour government, I'm finding it hard to support a party so hell bent on shitting on women's rights.

Politically a bit homeless right now. Tis sad.

I want electoral reform and then a hung parliament

Both the Labour Party and the Tories have such a wide political spread within them that they are paralysed

Ok @macosie but tell me about their vision for the country? Because that is what I am not getting at all. Liam Fox would sell his granny if he could

I completely agree, I love all these posts asking where the money will come from for all of their policies. Given that many countries in Europe have similar policies to Corbyn then we can safely assume it can be done, but for some reason in the sixth largest economy it's seen as undoable. That's bullshit. We've been fed Tory nonsense by a right wing press for far too long.

But, having said all that I'm losing the will to live with Labour on Brexit, though I'd rather Labour took us through it rather than the Tories, who will use it to strip this nation of every hard won employment and human right we've gained.

Finally we have an actual Opposition Party again. I think what many fail to appreciate is that even if they don't get voted in the mere fact that they might serves a purpose. Enough to cause May to at least acknowledge the existence of JAM's and Left Behind's.

Fucks sake, how can the word only be put in the same sentence as 1 in 10went to Eton?

If you care more about people going to Eton than people enabling anti semitism I’m sorry but I think you’re nuts

I actually think neither party at this moment in time is any good.
But labour ( momentum) its ant Semitic stance, its misogynistic views can just fuck off!!

@thefusilliJerry but its Ok for Boris to write anti-Islamic crap in the media? Utter bollocks

Up until May this year I was a member of the Labour Party, voted for Corbyn as leader twice, was active in my community delivering leaflets etc. But I wouldn't even vote for them now. Why? I've witnessed the horrible misogyny by the 'woke dude bros' and I just don't want to be part of a authoritarian movement that will castigate you if you don't think 'the right way'.

Labour actually make me feel sick at the moment. I'm politically homeless.

So what Boris writes excuses the hordes of anti semites within labour?
Now that’s bollocks

Awful misogyny rules the party. Cannot vote for them - after 40 years only voting Labour - in their present state.

YABU

Yanbu

I want to live without fear of the postman delivering yet another letter informing me in poor English of a change to my very much needed benefits.

I want to live without the fear that I will lose much needed support from my mental health team who literally keep me alive!

I want to live without the fear of further cuts to the nhs or worst of all, the nhs being sold off!

I want to live without the fear that my daughter when her disability starts to affect her more seriously when she is older will not have the support she needs - in employment rights, housing rights, healthcare, benefits...

I want to live without fear that my medication will be unavailable to me either through cost or supply issues.

I want to live without fear of becoming homeless - again!

I want to live without the fear of rising crime, reducing police numbers and prison spaces.

I want to live with HOPE of returning to work at some point.

I want to live with HOPE that the stigma of mental illness and disability will be addressed and diminished.

I want to live with HOPE that our economy will be improved, jobs created, affordable decent quality housing built.

I want to live with HOPE that our relationship with EU countries following brexit will not be broken beyond repair.

I want to live with the HOPE that my future grandchildren, my dn's, all children in this country receive a good education. That no avenue is closed to them whatever their background.