To admire Theresa May

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As a woman. I don't agree with her policies and brexit strategies but I do think she is an amazingly strong and powerful figure, with the confidence to stick to her beliefs, even in the face of such negativity! That takes guts!
Watching her in Brussels surrounded by a crowd of important men, I did think good on her for standing up to them. Anyone agree?
She gets a lot of negative press and i never hear of her being shown as a role model for women.

Oh and I blame the millions who did not even vote . It’s a total mess and I think she is doing her best , and there were many cross party proposals so I don’t think she could get all the blame . To be honest if you asked me what Corbyn wants the country to do , I would not have a Scooby doo.

We have pissed them about for 2 years ? Really ? They have no intention of doing anything except satisfying their own ego power trips . They are just playing a game with us . They are going to punish us . No doubt about it .

I would say I think Corbyn is just as bad and actually shares some similarities with May like stubbornness and an inability to admit he was wrong in anything.

A role model for women who stays in power through a £1bn bribe to people who deny other women the choice of an abortion in cases of rape and incest?

The DUP are the biggest bunch of sexist, racist awful bitter bastards there ever was

Peter Robinson - I'd trust a muslim to go to the shop for me

Ian Paisley - taking bribes from one of the most corrupt governments on earth to the tune of £100k

Arlene Foster - RHI scandal... costing the tax payer £500m

I'm friends with some high profile journalists and I have it on good word that a prominent and senior member of the DUP has left his family for the love of another man, despite their public declaration of strong homophobia... bordering on hate crime

Another 2 prominent members, married, but not to each other are having an affair

Why are these bastards being allowed to ruin our future??? Wake up people

Well she is marginally better than David Cameron who caused this crisis and then ran off when the going got tough. But I question her judgement and her political instinct.

Today was history repeating itself and no lessons appear to have been learned.

When TM called the ill-advised election that virtually destroyed her mandate, it was said she was susceptible to poor advice owing to the fact she was a loner, non-collaborative, obstinately ploughing her own furrow.

In Salzburg, she alienated the EU before negotiations started by writing an ill-advised article in the German press which got everyone's backs up, and by back-tracking in a meeting with Varadker on a promise about progress made regarding the Irish back-stop. Up until that point they had been willing to let her ride out a fudge so her negotiating position remained strong during the Conservative Conference.

Again, she appeared isolated and was ill-advised (what were her advance party diplomats thinking of/what were they doing)? The EU rebuff should not have come as a surprise in these circumstances.

For her to stand there and make a faux-tough response which smacked of desperation rather than resolve was laughable. To ask for respect, and say that the UK is "ready" was bordering on the absurd. The EU have been waiting for months and months for her to come up with a credible solution regarding the Northern Ireland border only to be on the receiving end of bluster, delay and fudge.

Suzieowl4 I agree that they had no intention of making any deals with us from the beginning. I remember the line 'we can't set a presidence for other countries to leave' this was always their plan, no matter TM would have suggested.

She does not have the skills to lead us through this mess.

But then does anyone? I want rid of her but simultaneously can't think of anyone who I'd want to see in her place.

History won't treat her kindly as she's in an impossible position. However she willingly put herself in that position, so it's difficult to have sympathy.

Yes we have pissed them about. David Davis barely turned up to any meetings. His first meeting he didn't even take any kind of proposal. The EU had already worked up some ideas. The idea of the Irish backstop was the EUs. We dismissed that but had no alternative. Our ministers have been threatening to withhold our legally owed severance payment. We threatened to cut security cooperation. We have failed to come up with any kind of solution to anything, having triggered article fifty without doing our homework first. And on top of all that, despite being asked not to, TM has repeatedly tried to go to individual heads of state with the intention of undermining the EU with a laughable attempt at divide and rule.

Not to mention it was our idea to ask the eastern European countries to join and now we're fucking off and leaving them to deal with the likes of Orban.

i agree that they had no intention of making any deals with us from the beginning

What a ridiculous statement, there are a number of deals on the table from them (Norway/Canada+). What you mean is 'won't give the UK the kind of cherry picked deal they're demanding'. And why would they?

In six months time, we will be free of the EU shackles. Hopefully with no deal - so we don't have to have fuck-all to do with them.

Honest to goodness what on earth do you think we will do if we have nothing to do with the EU? What sort of hope is that? What will we eat? What will we buy and sell? Not in 50 years time or even 5, but in 6 months?

In six months time, we will be free of the EU shackles. Hopefully with no deal - so we don't have to have fuck-all to do with them.

So ignorant.

She's an idiot and I don't like her at all since she decimated my police pension, froze my pay rise (not had a rise in 7 years) and literally broke the public services. She's a twat and as far as I'm concerned and she deserves everything coming to her.

Totally agree OP. She is known to be a Remainer but is setting aside her own personal view to represent the result of the referendum.
As I see it she is doing as well, if not better, than anyone else in this invidious position.

I really cannot see that any other politician from any party could do better. I think she is a rare being - a principled conviction Politician.
Fair play to her. I strongly suspect she has won a lot of support, albeit quietly.

I think the EU hope that we will have a second referendum so we vote the "correct" way - just like France (?) and Ireland. Fuck that.

I'm absolutely furious and sick about how the media constantly reports Brexit through the lens of TM's career prospects. I don't give a fuck if she has a job next year....
The machinations of the Tory party should not be the angle at every single opportunity

Absolutely. Couldn't agree more.

The media are mean to her but she's doing as well as most would in the circumstances. I don't mind her. Quite admire her actually.

Yes. Yabu. HTH

I agree that she’s doing her best. But that’s the problem. She’s just not very able and we will all pay the price.

She may be doing her best but she's not up to the job. And she leads a divided and destructive party. We hardly have an effective opposition either. The British public have never been so poorly served by the political establishment.

She’ll likely be gone by March. Boxed herself into a corner with her checkers nonsense. The Tories are signing the UK’s death warrant.

Well leaving aside the citizens of nowhere comment which I won’t forget and did a great job of fuelling the already very divided country, I think to be fair she does stand out in some ways. Her incredible stupidity is the main one, what kind of idiot allows a smoking gun be put to their head without a sensible escape plan? This is what she did by triggering Article 50 before there was any semblance of agreement amongst her own party of what they actually agree they want from Brexit.

Then yesterday to stand there saying Junker is saying her plan will undermine the single market but he won’t explain why is completely and utterly ridiculous because it is totally obvious and it’s been explained before, many times, it’s a bit like that thing my non spanish speaking FIL who lived in Spain did, speak very slowly and loudly in English to anyone who didn’t understand him.

So I guess she was on safe grounds with her speech yesterday as there seems to be a certain percentage of wankers in this country she do this when abroad so she was on safe ground with at least some of the population. The rest of us are just left there in utter disbelief watching this extreme shower of shit that she has chosen to head up.

The EU have been very patient with her shenanigans in the circumstances . I personally have no respect for the woman now, after fleetingly having some for a week or so at the beginning.

A literal sack of shit would have made the same amount of progress on brexit negotiations as she has- none

She's an absolute disgrace. ' She genuinely wants to help people'. That is truly hilarious.

She's deranged, deluded and stupid.

Then yesterday to stand there saying Junker is saying her plan will undermine the single market but he won’t explain why is completely and utterly ridiculous because it is totally obvious and it’s been explained before, many times, it’s a bit like that thing my non spanish speaking FIL who lived in Spain did, speak very slowly and loudly in English to anyone who didn’t understand him.

Huffing about respect looks so weak. Donald Tusk has pointed out that she'd known for a fortnight exactly why the plan wouldn't work.

Dominic Raab singing from the same hymn-sheet of "Why won't they tell us why it won't work? No coherent explanation as to why blah blah blah".

She is a disaster. She does not listen to anyone. From the start she adopted red lines that were unacceptable to the EU. This means that she has boxed herself into a corner. Instead of compromising, she has doubled-down and used inflammatory language ‘uncontrolled migration’, ‘border down the Irish Sea’ all hyperbole, total over exaggeration. We already have regulatory checks down the Irish Sea for some agricultural stuff - it is a sensible compromise that now she has made look impossible.

Her speech yesterday means that if there is to be any hope of a deal, it has to be with a different PM.

When all else fails, she wraps herself in the flag. That fuels hatred and is no way to negotiate.