To admire Theresa May

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As a woman. I don't agree with her policies and brexit strategies but I do think she is an amazingly strong and powerful figure, with the confidence to stick to her beliefs, even in the face of such negativity! That takes guts!
Watching her in Brussels surrounded by a crowd of important men, I did think good on her for standing up to them. Anyone agree?
She gets a lot of negative press and i never hear of her being shown as a role model for women.

YABU She isn't courageous just bloody minded and authoritarian. And weak. And complicit because she knows hat he law was broken and lies were told and she's done sod all about it. And she has done zero for remainers, the scots, uk citizens living in Europe. She listens only to the backstabbing disaster capitalists in the own party. She is an awful PM.

She didn't 'get' a poisoned glass

The snap election and her complete failure to develop a policy position on brexit for 18 months are a large part of why the glass is as toxic as it is.

Not one iota. Can't stand the woman.

I'll give you Robert Peston's take on her latest. And he is being kind quite frankly.

"Almost exactly two years ago, Theresa May - a Remainer, lest we forget - tried to win favour from Brexiter Tories by promising the UK would leave the EU by the end of March next year at the very latest.

This was desperately reckless, many would argue, because she set a date for exiting long before she had even a sketch of what kind of Brexit was either desirable or deliverable.

The rest is painful experience, for her and the nation, because here we are just six months before we’re out, and we still have little clue what “out” will actually mean.

Arguably what she did today however was history repeating and rhyming. Because in painting other EU government heads and EU functionaries as disrespectful inflexible bullies she is again seeking approval from her party’s Brexiter members and MPs, just days before she faces trial of her eventful (ahem) time in office at this year’s Tory conference.

She has set herself up, again, as that difficult woman who will teach those bloomin’ Europeans some manners - and remind them that the odd snafu at our ports and airports, if by bad luck we’re lumbered with a no-deal Brexit, holds no fear for plucky Brits.

Don’t they know we’re the people who invented queuing, and - unlike other pursuits we created - we’re still world champions at it.

But there is a serious risk in unleashing the anti-European genie when there are just weeks remaining to negotiate a more orderly Brexit.

She knows - or at least her more worldly wise Whitehall officials surely do - that she will have to compromise to secure agreement with the EU.

Here is one way of understanding why that would be: the EU is a much more modern and fragile constitutional construct than the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland; so just as she will not countenance a so-called Northern Ireland backstop plan that she feels weakens the integrity of the UK, they cannot accept a UK trade proposal that they see as tearing at the bonds of their cherished single market.

So in playing today to the Brexiter crowd as an EU-taming Thatcher redivivus she now has set herself up for a high risk game of chicken with the EU, which could well lead to a messy no-deal crash, or for obloquy from the Tories who adore her tonight, if she swerves.

Maybe it will be the rest of the EU that blinks and swerves. But ask Greece if you think it is in the EU’s DNA to capitulate to a supplicant nation - even one in distress - that asks for exceptions to the EU’s rule and lore.

And it’s worth remembering that Greece wasn’t repudiating the EU and trying to leave."

I often wonder how the students of tomorrow will look back on this clusterfuck.

It's beyond a joke now.

The OP is so patronising. TM is doing a shit job. Her sex should not matter one bit. If a man had of made a pig's ear of the situation as she did, he wouldn't have been praised. Nor should she because she a little woman surrounded by those bullying brutes.

I did see why she put Johnson as FS actually. Inside the tent pissing out etc.

If ever there was a case of the glass cliff, this is it.

She has made some monumental screw-ups, most notably calling an election. She should also have decided on a form of Brexit (Norwegian model, Canada plus) that she might have had a hope in hell of getting.

But I do think she is stuck doing an impossible job in impossible circumstances, which is largely outside her poewr to do anything about - what I think a lot of people underestimate is that Brexit is not a negotiation, the EU holds all the power. And while I disagree with her politics profoundly (she was one of the most authoritarian home secretaries we've had in recent history) I genuinely think she acts on principle rather than out of political opportunism.

Uh... yabu, she is a disastrous PM, she was no great shakes as Home Sec and I don't think much of her as a person either. She is steering this country into disaster. That is not admirable or brave, it is ridiculous.

Agree op, she's taken on a task that no one wants, not Boris, not Corbin, no one, it's the ultimate poison chalice and she will retire when she's done what she can with this shit storm.

As one of the labour MPs said, they will never agree to anything she negotiates.

I suspect the only option is a second referendum. But I respect her for what she's attempting to do and negotiate something rhe British people voted for, even though she must clearly know it's an impossible task.

I'm absolutely furious and sick about how the media constantly reports Brexit through the lens of TM's career prospects. I don't give a fuck if she has a job next year. I care if diabetics get insulin and if my husband keeps his job, if our house price crashes.

The machinations of the Tory party should not be the angle at every single opportunity.

YABVVVU. She has no admirable qualities whatsoever.

YABVU aside from the shit show that is occurring she presents herself as bland and (although I’m sure she can’t be) weak. She doesn’t deserve praise for what’s between her legs

the confidence to stick to her beliefs, even in the face of such negativity!

Such a good trait in a politician intent on destroying the country for ideological/party political reasons.

She is hopeless the windrush debacle was under her watch at the HO, she failed to introduce legislation which was allowed by the eu to deport Eu nationals if they hadn't got jobs within 3 months then claims there are too many immigrants. She refused to remove the cap on Drs visas even though ministers begged her to. She has not listened to anything tusk has been saying for the last 2 years instead had made vague threats about the 3 million if we don't get a deal.

Regardless of her sex, she's just not very good at the job. There are other women politicians who would make better PMs than she is, just as there are always better men when the PM is a man. Rarely does the absolute best person for the job of PM actually get it - that's the nature of politics.

She's not stuck doing it, she chose it. And the things that were in her control, like triggering Article 50 voluntarily and with no kind of plan, have primarily been unwise.

YABU. She's not confident in her beliefs at all. The only reason she's sticking to Chequers is because she's got no other plan and if she can make the EU the meanies for not playing along with the idea that it was ever viable, she will to save her own backside.

YABU
So much so I wonder whether you started this thread for a laugh.

The woman is a a train wreck, and she is taking us down with her. It make my blood boil when people mistake her stupidity and bloody mindedness for tenacity. Wake the fuck up she hasn’t got a clue and country is just a blot on her lousy CV

She inherited an impossible situation, it's easy to criticise her, no-one else has ever been in her position, trying to implement a break from the EU, especially when the other 27 countries realise that there would be a huge shortfall in their coffers. I have yet to hear from those who voted to Leave what they expected would happen after their vote, did they seriously think we would simply cut ourselves off the next day. TM is on a hiding to nothing.

I'm not one to wave the sexism card often but last night I felt the language used by the media was harsher because she is a woman. Before the referendum Cameron tried to negotiate concessions from the EU and got bugger all. Not once was this described as a humiliation yet it was.

Tilly perhaps they thought SWAT teams would round up the dirty foreigners, raid their bank accounts and put it in the NHS mythical bank account 😏🙄🤪

Well she's a woman so of course she's had sexism. That's a given.

That ridiculous over acted press conference today was completely for the hardline Brexiteers in her party. They've seen just enough to let her ride out the conference season now.

So she's not doing her best or playing principles. She's as power hungry as any other politician and fighting mainly for her ego and her place in history.

She's prepared to sell the country down the river to do it, too. Fucking feel sorry for her.

YABU. She is doing an awful job, she is full of ridiculous sound bites (Brexit means Brexit, no deal is better than a bad deal) and refuses to be honest with the country about what Brexit will mean, blithely reassuring us it will all be ok in the end (like, when my kids are in their late 50s).

Blindly driving the country off a cliff is not a trait I’d admire in a man or a woman.