to think our children will not forgive us if we don't sort Brexit out

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DFiL voted Leave. He's not thick and he had his reasons but, to be frank, he's 80 and not going to have to live with the consequences long term. Especially, if the NHS don't manage to stockpile his multiple medications in the event of a No Deal.

AIBU to think we all need to kick up an almighty stink to ensure that our Government makes a deal that will protect our children's futures - even if that means remaining. Jacob Rees Mogg and his ERG buddies predict it could be 50 years for the UK to see the benefits of leaving the EU. That's too late for my DD.

Austerity has damaged enough lives, we can't let Brexit do more harm. It's no good shrugging and saying "Leave won". If this isn't sorted out there will be no winners.

The best deal would be to bin the whole ridiculous idea and stay in.

I 100% back pirates deal. Can you run for the new lib dem leader? You'd get a lot of votes!

@1tisILeClerc

My mum would still vote Leave, any price (that others have to pay) is worth it as far as she's concerned to get rid of immigrants. She knows Brexit will cost me my job and my children will have to scrap plans they had for the future. As far as she's concerned this is unfortunate but getting foreigners out is more important. Our relationship is hanging by a thread because of Brexit.

Now the consequences are becoming clearer

what consequences are clear?Nothing is clear at all yet!

God kenn that's awful. Very sorry.

My mum would still vote Leave, any price (that others have to pay) is worth it as far as she's concerned to get rid of immigrants. She knows Brexit will cost me my job and my children will have to scrap plans they had for the future. As far as she's concerned this is unfortunate but getting foreigners out is more important. Our relationship is hanging by a thread because of Brexit.

Remember, we burnt witches to save their souls ....

Ethel & Hazard - remain is the deal I still want, too. And I'm not ruling it out!

God kenn that's awful. Very sorry.

It's not just my mum, it's most of the older generation of my family. I was sick of the Britian First shite on fb. They live in one of the lowest levels of immigration parts of the country as well. My mum is coming to stay at Christmas, can't wait.

not ruling it out

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Things I wanna read and hear people.

kenn do you have to put yourself through that? I know it's your mum but if she fancies herself as your mum she should give a shit about you managing financially. Or I can just be angry on your behalf over Xmas and you don't have to be.

Fruit so there are no consequences to leaving the EU at all ? none ?

Genuine question , who do you believe ?

Kenn that is so dreadful, I know other families who have fallen out over it. I seethe at smug bastard David Cameron putting us in this miserable position.

I think frumperty's analogy is a very good one re the surgeon and surgery. It is the sunken cost fallacy at its worst.

Just to lighten the mood slightly , my non STEM 16 yr old DD asked me the other day how the people got on the moon , I said in a space rocket/ship malarkey ( also not STEM, can you tell ?) , she said 'yeah but how did they know when to go when it was all there ? This was when the moon was just over half visible

I feel a bit the same when coming up against leave arguments, my face wants to so as not to cause offence, but my brain is

And I love her to pieces , but she isn't going to come up with a solution to the NI technological border whatitsface, she could stand there on the border ( in suitable clothing, there will be a vest involved ), smiling sweetly and telling everyone they have fabulous hair , shoes, clothes, the cutest dog/sheep/cow/pig………. actually that might even work, quick someone call Treeza

frumpety I recommend Tomi Ungerer's Moon Man for her.

Peregrina

My mum voted for Brexshit because of bendy bananas. She doesn't eat bananas. I think she's quite typical of the 52%.

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he knows Brexit will cost me my job and my children will have to scrap plans they had for the future

change job

whatplans did your dc have which are now thwarted?

Because that's so easy...

Can you run for the new lib dem leader?

If there was an election in the near future do you think the Libdems might win as they are the only party which has promised to cancel Brexit?

Mine were hoping to go abroad for a couple of years work experience - if you have to get visas and work permits it's not impossible, but much more difficult. The international firms which DS was applying for don't seem to be recruiting UK passport holders at the moment. Does it matter about not working abroad? Yes, in some industries it broadens your experience and is a valuable asset on your CV.

But never mind hey. It will all be OK in 50 years time according to Rees-Mogg, when DS will be a pensioner and his own DS will be middle aged.

Well, that's great for your DD. And my DD who can get an Irish passport. But DD and I love our country and don't want to leave. That's why I think we should all fight for the best deal for all our children

Its not great at all, its very sad but brexit is inevitable now and there is no "best deal" to be had.

We are leaving the club and losing the benefits of the club, its not a hard concept to understand and it beggars belief that TM is putting her own position ahead of the countries.

I love this country too but I'm damned if I'm going to sit back and watch my dd lose her EU rights. Irish passports all around. Suddenly my Mum's stories of working as an immigrant nurse in the early days of the NHS being treated horribly by some 1950s gammon men while she was wiping their arses take on a new meaning.

Quite frankly the leave vote was well over due, and in the years to come the day of the referendum will be remembered as Great Britain's Independence Day.

Jesus.