Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to think our children will not forgive us if we don't sort Brexit out

999 replies

HurricaneFloss · 20/09/2018 13:25

DFiL voted Leave. He's not thick and he had his reasons but, to be frank, he's 80 and not going to have to live with the consequences long term. Especially, if the NHS don't manage to stockpile his multiple medications in the event of a No Deal.

AIBU to think we all need to kick up an almighty stink to ensure that our Government makes a deal that will protect our children's futures - even if that means remaining. Jacob Rees Mogg and his ERG buddies predict it could be 50 years for the UK to see the benefits of leaving the EU. That's too late for my DD.

Austerity has damaged enough lives, we can't let Brexit do more harm. It's no good shrugging and saying "Leave won". If this isn't sorted out there will be no winners.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
11
bellinisurge · 20/09/2018 22:02

@10degreestostarboard is obviously euphoric about this impending economic disaster. I hope they don't make a living advising on supply chains or macroeconomics and all we are hearing is rehashed babble from increasingly discredited sources.

10degreestostarboard · 20/09/2018 22:02

Recluse

If we truly had a close cultural affinity to being European then the leave vote (and turnout) would not have been so high.

I am English first then British

JWIM · 20/09/2018 22:02

Blithering it won't be the airlines' decision if there is no UK regulatory system in place that is covered by the relevant flight agreements in place of the EASA regulatory system the UK will have exited. There will be no right to fly from or to the UK under EASA agreements like Open Skies. Nothing will be covered for insurance purposes.

bellinisurge · 20/09/2018 22:03

If you are English @10degreestostarboard , what do you suggest as a solution to the NI border?

BlitheringIdiots · 20/09/2018 22:03

Yes we are still reeling from the mis management of this country by Blair and his cronies. Handing out money. Creating non-jobs in the public sector. Tories try to cut the debt that they were left with and get the blame.

Maybe a Tory government under Boris and without Brussels will be a better future.

It can't be worse than Corbyn, Abbott and the Brussels set

CiderBrains · 20/09/2018 22:03

In fact I bet if you ran a pill asking young people who they identified more with; Americans or Europeans they would say Americans.

American "culture " is far more embedded within our modern society and traditions than anything else. That's not to say that's good or bad either way, but American ways has certainly made a big impact within modern life, especially amongst young people.

EthelThePiratesDaughter · 20/09/2018 22:03

In the same way that a man who self ids as a woman isn’t a woman, you can’t tell me I am European when I patently am not

It's not the same thing at all.

CiderBrains · 20/09/2018 22:03

A poll not pill

10degreestostarboard · 20/09/2018 22:04

Bellinsurge

Just take care that your proposed ridiculous civil protest blah doesn’t make that crisis worse

As a loyal British subject I know you wouldn’t want to harm the country just to say told you so.... would you?

BlitheringIdiots · 20/09/2018 22:04

The airlines have plans already. Already said that. But no need to implement or publicize without fear of upsetting the negotiations going on

Planes will not be grounded come 29 March

1tisILeClerc · 20/09/2018 22:04

Since many of the 'white settlers' in the USA are immigrants from Europe they will have some similarity. The first peoples of the USA were not 'white'.

bellinisurge · 20/09/2018 22:04

@10degreestostarboard - now I don't understand what you are talking about.

BlitheringIdiots · 20/09/2018 22:05

Woman

Oh gosh. Go get a glass of something alcoholic and calm your hysteria.

10degreestostarboard · 20/09/2018 22:06

Bellinsurge

Solution to ni? I don’t know - that’s why we have politicians. Ordinarily we would have decent ones

bellinisurge · 20/09/2018 22:06

I have no intention of undertaking civil protest. I've not mentioned it once.

10degreestostarboard · 20/09/2018 22:07

Woman is literally running around her kitchen muttering ‘we’re doomed’ endlessly...

bellinisurge · 20/09/2018 22:07

@10degreestostarboard that's your solution- it's for the politicians to sort out. I thought we were taking back control?

EthelThePiratesDaughter · 20/09/2018 22:07

I am English first then British

You are both. And also European, whether you like it or not.

EthelThePiratesDaughter · 20/09/2018 22:09

Solution to ni? I don’t know - that’s why we have politicians.

The politicians don't know either.

So do you think we should let the whole situation blow up, or should we put the brakes on until someone has come up with a workable solution? And would your answer be different if you lived in Northern Ireland?

In an ideal world "the politicians" wouldn't have given a green light to the referendum AT ALL until someone had come up with a workable solution to the Irish border issue.

bellinisurge · 20/09/2018 22:09

I'm not running around my kitchen muttering we're doomed. I have a nicely stocked kitchen and larder and a garden still producing.
Anyone who's still putting their faith in supermarket supply chains can go whistle as far as I am concerned.

woman11017 · 20/09/2018 22:11

If we truly had a close cultural affinity to being European then the leave vote (and turnout) would not have been so high
First thing sensible thing you have posted.
Why have we no cultural affinity?
Look at US cultural imperialism, English laziness, and education policy of deliberately limiting access to modern foreign language acquisition.
France has state policies to mitigate American culture imperialism.
Might have been a good idea for england before it were pimped.
Imagine what culturally isolated england must have looked like to a hungry ex power broker nation developing cyber warfare too. Hmm

10degreestostarboard · 20/09/2018 22:11

Bellinsurge

Yes our British politicians

1tisILeClerc · 20/09/2018 22:12

The owners of Heathrow airport have rearranged their finances to cover a possible 2 month shutdown.
Unless ALL certifications of planes pilots, airports, insurance, servicing, refueling etc are in place NO planes will fly.
You may be tempted to drive your car up the road with no MOT or tax, it is rather more serious for the airline industry.

bellinisurge · 20/09/2018 22:12

Do you consider NI to be part of the UK or are you willing to sacrifice it on the altar of blue passports?

10degreestostarboard · 20/09/2018 22:13

Woman

Ohh praise! Thanks do I win a prize mate?

Agree with other posters - we are closer to the Americans than Europeans