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Son's girlfriend living with us and becoming a burden

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womanofthesun · 19/09/2018 15:29

My son (20) seems to have moved his girlfriend into our house. From the day he introduced me to her back in April, she's spent every day and night here (with the exception of about 2). He works full-time and whilst he's at work, she'll spend the whole day in his room. That, alone, isn't the problem. The problem is that she's become a burden, both spatially and financially. She spends a lot of time in the bathroom doing her hair and make-up, which means that I'm often having to wait for her to finish before I can use my own bathroom. She's also been taking 2 showers a day - one in the morning and one in the evening (neither myself or my son have that many - we both have 1). Whilst she's having a shower, she often plays music from her phone too (which, to me, is an indication that she's gotten a little too cosy here). When my son returns from work, he'll cook an elaborate dinner for them both (he's a very good cook), and whilst he's sweating in the kitchen after a long day's work, she'll either be in his bedroom waiting to be handed a plate, or sat in the kitchen, watching him do all the work. In fact, this is the case with any household activity - he'll cook/clean/tidy whilst she'll just watch, usually whilst scrolling through her phone. She's also taken to swanning around the house in little shorts and belly tops. I've even see her put the heating and hot water on whilst my son is at work. She knows we're a family that struggles, financially, so to have her use our utilities this way is quite stressful. I've even caught her spitting in our garden whilst sat outside smoking. I just find that she's being quite disrespectful, now. AIBU to feel this way? His old girlfriend was really helpful and would always help him with household things. She was very respectful and kept her presence within the house quite small (she also spent most nights in her own home). This one doesn't seem to understand boundaries. One time she was ill with a cold and was coughing and sneezing quite freely around the house. As I have a young baby, I had to ask her to leave on that occasion and come back only when she is better - I didn't want my baby getting sick (he already has an autoimmune disorder which makes his immune system weak, which I explained to her). My son does give me a certain amount of his wage each month for his keep, but not enough to cover what's being used by the extra body to be honest. And, to be honest, no amount of money would make up for the inconvenience caused by her constant physical presence within the house.

Thing is, I'm afraid to bring this up to them because I know she's a nice girl who probably means well (although I do feel that she feels quite entitled to my son's treatment and the benefits of technically living with us - I think she feels she's a "catch" for my son). I just think she's young and naive to the impact of her presence.

AIBU to feel that my son's girlfriend's behaviour isn't really on?

OP posts:
Katiem1234 · 10/06/2019 19:33

Tell her she can't stay.
He's an adult, if he isn't happy with your verdict then he can do what most adults do and move out and have her live there if that's what he wants.

bebeboeuf · 10/06/2019 19:34

By deal with I mean he needs to instigate the moving out and not out this mess on you to sort out.

He’s adult enough to have a baby so he needs to grow up fast without expecting mummy to sort it out for him

LucyAutumn · 10/06/2019 19:34

They really need to move out now OP and fast.

QueenBeex · 10/06/2019 19:35

I hope you're looking forward to sleepless nights, babysitting, paying for nappys and clearing up baby stuff op! Unless they've moved out and she was previously working and saving during the pregnancy too of course.

Onceuponacheesecake · 10/06/2019 19:37

Please tell us they've moved out OP. Congratulations btw...

TheInvestigator · 10/06/2019 19:38

Send them to live at her parents. Kick them out.

Mixingitall · 10/06/2019 19:41

I don’t know whether to congratulate you or not.

When did they tell you? Have they kept it from you? Did you ever have the conversation all those months ago?

Will they continue to stay with you? Does your son work and could he afford somewhere for them to live? Have they registered for a housing association property? Would they qualify better if she was living at home in an already over crowded home?

Hopefully they’ll be amazing parents and the baby will be a delight. Good luck OP, none of us know what we would have done in this situation.

womanofthesun · 10/06/2019 19:47

Hi, all

Thanks for your continued interest in this truly f’d up situation. I suppose it reads like an interesting novel (or sitcom, rather).

I’m going to be honest with you all. I (the person who wrote this thread) was never the mum in this situation - I’m the mum’s daughter/the son’s sister. I wrote this thread on behalf of my mum (acting as my mum, and responding as best I felt my mum would), because she just isn’t tech savvy enough to maintain a MN thread. I wanted opinions, and needed her to know how other mothers felt about the situation (I felt that it was totally unacceptable, and still do).

I left out a few details in the original thread because I felt they would derail the focus of the thread. Such details are my brother’s verbal abuse, controlling nature and dominance in my mum’s house. He talks to her really awfully (yes, in front of his girlfriend, which has acted as an invitation for her to act disrespectfully and cross boundaries - generally taking my mum ‘for a mug’), he refuses to do any housework because he works and why should he have to come home from work to clean/tidy or do so on his day off? (his philosophy), he raises his voice often, he belittles my mum and much more (all emotional in nature - not physical - not that it makes it any better). He talks to and treats me the same way, too.

My mum did have that conversation with them but it didn’t go well at all. I was present for it. My brother very bluntly and smugly confirmed that he had, indeed, moved his girlfriend in - to the extent that her mum threw her bed out to free up some space in their overcrowded house. Total piss-take. I made a huge scene about it the same day. I just couldn’t stand the way they had walked over my mum and my mum had, essentially, let them. The girlfriend disappeared for a few days following that convo but then returned a few days later. She went on to do this for a while - disappear for a few days and then stay for a few days. It’s as if she felt that by disappearing for a few days, she was earning her right to stay for the next few days. Fast forward, and now she’s 7 months pregnant. It actually works out that she’d’ve gotten pregnant a few weeks after I made that huge scene - which is a cheek, if you think about it! I’m inclined to think it was in part deliberate, almost as a way of officially earning her right to be a part of the family - via a baby!

The girlfriend doesn’t stay at my mum’s house during the day when my brother is at work anymore, but she still stays round every night without fail. There are still a few boundaries that are crossed regularly (still having regular showers, she still doesn’t contribute anything to the household - and it doesn’t help that she has the added excuse of being pregnant, now - still overstaying her welcome by having this routine of staying round every night without fail... But my mum doesn’t feel she can do or say much now as the girlfriend is pregnant and carrying her grandchild.

So, this is how it’s going

What’s concerning is the fact that they don’t seem to have a stable plan, housing-wise. I’ve urged the girlfriend to go to the housing and declare that she’s pregnant and has nowhere to live/is being kicked out due to overcrowding, but she seems reluctant to do so because’s she’s scared to stay in a hostel/temp accommodation while pregnant. I’ve told her that that is just inevitable, and it’s better she do it while pregnant than with a baby (her preferred time to do so). She seems to want to live at home for a while, but, wait - her home is overcrowded? So how does a new baby fit into that? I can’t help but feel that they’re expecting my mum to eventually offer to let them stay at her house with the baby, and I fear my mum will. So my mum’s house must become overcrowded because the girlfriend’s house is, and she chose to become pregnant under such circumstances?Remember, there’s a now 12-month-old at my mum’s house already. How can two such small people occupy the same household? That’d be a nightmare to navigate with crying, sleep routines etc. I know there are mothers who may have a toddler and a newborn, but at least that mother can decide how she wants to go about it and devise her own structural plan, but these are two different mothers caring for two different infants - it’d be very hectic, I imagine!

This is infuriating.

They don’t seem to be preparing very well for this baby, at all. Apparently they haven’t bought any of the ‘big stuff’ yet because they have nowhere to put it (again, very concerning), and my mum has reported seeing the girlfriend in a new pair of trainers every week - so you can see how money is being spent.

This whole situation is a shambles, and I really feel for my mum. This situation brings out an irritation in me that I never knew existed.

OP posts:
womanofthesun · 10/06/2019 19:49

Sorry, a few typos there ^

OP posts:
ssd · 10/06/2019 19:52

Why on earth are you allowing this to continue?
I honestly don't get it.
There is a word called NO.

TheInvestigator · 10/06/2019 19:53

If your mum isn't going to do anything about it then this is going to be how it is. And she will be doing all the work.

Honestly, I'd move. You and your mum and 12 month old should move. Don't invite tour brother, don't even tell him where you're moving too. Tell them moving out date, and move all the stuff they don't take since your mum will have paid for it anyway. Get their keys back anyway you can and just move. Let them figure it out.

justasking111 · 10/06/2019 19:53

Wait till your brother starts treating the girlfriend like dirt as he does his mum, and he will once the baby arrives and he is expected to man up, be a dad and be responsible. Your poor mum. I have no solution for you but to hope they move out once they are a family.

Walkamileinmyshoesbeforeujudge · 10/06/2019 19:54

If you know which gp the gf attends I would be emailing them (your dm should do this tbh), or a call to ss? The baby will have zero stability imo and could be seen as a dc at risk at birth. This will not be a reflection on your dm at all remember..

ssd · 10/06/2019 19:55

Gosh sorry, I was confused there. I feel for you op. Your mum needs to say NO MORE.

RedPink · 10/06/2019 19:55

😱😱😱. We are all ears OP....

Guadalquivir19 · 10/06/2019 19:57

Why didn't your mum change the locks and not give the new keys? She needs to throw the pair of them out now, it's disgraceful the way they're carry on.

Pinkmouse6 · 10/06/2019 20:00

Your Mum needs to grow a back bone I’m afraid, it’s the only way to resolve this issue. They’re both adults, now have a baby to consider and they need their own place. Your mum should change the locks and place their belongings on the doorstep. Tough love is necessary, they are pisstakers.

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 10/06/2019 20:03

Is there your mum’s DP there or not? If he is, what’s his take on it? Does your mum own the house?

womanofthesun · 10/06/2019 20:04

The problem with my mum is that she’s blinded by her love for her son. She sees him as “good deep down”, whereas I see him for who he is. I’m not dealing with the same “he’s my son at the end of the day” bias, so I see him for all his bullshit! I feel like I’m the person who’s going to have to bring the assertion and deal with this! I’m gonna be constantly on at the girlfriend about going to the housing. Unfortunately, you simply can’t get through to my brother because he’ll just raise his voice and shout on top of you - totally dominating the conversation - so the only way to go is through the girlfriend.

OP posts:
Greencustard · 10/06/2019 20:04

I've said this before, but I really do think there should be a crack squad of the most, ahem, robust MNers, who swing into action (travelling by Ocado van, obvs) to dispense justice (and gin) and give those MNers who can't stand up for themselves a helping hand in telling it like it is!

Grin I love this, count me in.

ssd · 10/06/2019 20:09

Greencustard, can I suggest menopausal ladies like myself? There's something about the confusion of hormonal imbalance and the stress of getting older than leaves one with rather a short fuse. Blush
I relish kicking someone up the arse!!

Badtasteflump · 10/06/2019 20:17

That was some update OP

As others have said, you can’t sort this out for your mum - she needs to grow a backbone, stand up to your brother, and lay down some rules for living in her home. But clearly that isn’t going to happen...

So my advice to you would be to move out of the whole toxic setup as soon as you can. You can’t change it and can’t be having much fun living in the middle of it - and it will only get worse when the baby arrives Sad. And I have to say, as much as the girlfriend sounds a complete mare, she has taken her cues from your brother, who sounds a complete shit.

Sorry you’re stuck in the middle of this OP - but sadly you can’t rescue anybody but yourself. Where is your dad and/or your mum’s partner in all this btw?

Hanab · 10/06/2019 20:17

They need to contribute to bills and she needs to do chores .. have a frank conversation with both of them. Money talk is difficult but it has to be done ..:
They are free to move out 🤷🏻‍♀️

claybakefan · 10/06/2019 20:32

Oh, your poor mum. You too obviously, but at least you have the 'luxury' of leaving home Flowers
Mum needs to understand that she can't do what's best and stay her son's friend. He'll hate her for it, but hopefully come around in the future.

Antigon · 10/06/2019 20:41

I would have suggested the police, but sounds like your mum won't allow that. Hope you get them out.

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