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'Not knowing when the Dawn will come, I open every Door,' Trump No. 95

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lionheart · 18/09/2018 16:53

From Emily Dickinson. Smile

Old thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3356297-Freedom-of-the-press-is-not-just-important-to-democracy-it-is-democracy-Trump-no-94

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Gumpendorf · 28/09/2018 19:07

It's up to McConnell to honor the request from Flake. Even if Flake votes no, McConnell could still have the votes.
twitter.com/KFILE/status/1045734636498898944

Honour and Mc Connell. That's a challenge

ohmymimi · 28/09/2018 19:16

But Flake is saying he won't vote for Kavanaugh on the floor without further investigation.
So this is up to the Stinker and SmugConnell? Hope it is not just a Flake trick play

ohmymimi · 28/09/2018 19:18

The Stinker just lurves the FBI, he will be cockahoopHmm

Gumpendorf · 28/09/2018 19:33

I don't think it's a trick mimi but it could be naive.

Coons is saying Flake has the word of other Senators that they support the move but the Dems seem more relived they have bridged the deep partisan divisions. This was going to the floor anyway, this is just another door left open.

Trump has been quoted as being v relaxed about the whole thing.

Gumpendorf · 28/09/2018 19:34

Murkowski has said she supports Flake in wanting a delay to do further enquiries.

Gumpendorf · 28/09/2018 19:35

WATCH: President Trump on Dr. Ford: "I thought her testimony was very compelling, and she looks like a very fine woman to me." twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1045740388663873536/video/1

Gumpendorf · 28/09/2018 19:36

MURKOWSKI tells me she spoke with Flake before he made his decision in Judiciary committee and they are in agreement. She says she supports having an FBI investigation that is “limited in scope”

twitter.com/byrdinator/status/1045742787227013122

Gumpendorf · 28/09/2018 19:39

I asked @POTUS if he had a message for Sens. Collins + Murkowski on the Kavanaugh nomination.

Trump: "They have to do what they think is right. They have to be comfortable with themselves."

twitter.com/KThomasDC/status/1045739443267792896

TheNorthWestPawsage · 28/09/2018 19:42

Flake has 2020 ambitions - he wants to seem 'strong and stable'...

TheNorthWestPawsage · 28/09/2018 19:45

Mitch McConnell and Kavanuagh will not be happy bunnies.

cozietoesie · 28/09/2018 19:52

It (almost) sounds as if 45 realises the impact that Ford's testimony will have had.

ohmymimi · 28/09/2018 19:57

I hope Kav. feels very uncomfortable. He deserves to, he lies with a facility reminiscent of his nominator, and he has an equally foul temper.

lionheart · 28/09/2018 19:58

What a day.

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lionheart · 28/09/2018 19:59

Manchin supporting Flake.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 28/09/2018 20:02

Apparently FBI interviews are voluntary so Mark Judge can say 'no'

I think pro-Kavanaugh folks dumping on Flake are seriously underestimating how savvy a move that was. He basically neutered Ds' central talking point. If the FBI finds nothing new (as is likely), Collins, Murkowski, and Manchin are unquestionably more likely to vote yes.
twitter.com/lachlan/status/1045744229019013121?s=21

ohmymimi · 28/09/2018 20:02

Christopher Cadelago
@ccadelago
Yeah, not sure what people are expecting a weeklong FBI probe to produce on the situation.
Lachlan Markay
@lachlan
I think pro-Kavanaugh folks dumping on Flake are seriously underestimating how savvy a move that was. He basically neutered Ds' central talking point. If the FBI finds nothing new (as is likely), Collins, Murkowski, and Manchin are unquestionably more likely to vote yes.

lionheart · 28/09/2018 20:09

Smile Kavanaugh v. Samuel L. Jackson.

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lionheart · 28/09/2018 20:10

Of course there are the lies he told yesterday to add to all the others.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 28/09/2018 20:11

lion Grin

CaveMum · 28/09/2018 20:12

Sorry if this has already been posted, but a video worth watching: twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1045738158112088065?s=21

ohmymimi · 28/09/2018 20:14

Why is the Stinker relaxed? Maybe he thinks SmugConnell will stitch it up tight, as per.

Avenatti looks sharp:

Michael Avenatti
@MichaelAvenatti
Here is the email I just sent to the Committee requesting a response and asking when we can sit down with the FBI. We are awaiting a response - yet again.
mobile.twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1045736402628091906/photo/1

ohmymimi · 28/09/2018 20:18

Thanks for that, lion, Grin

lionheart · 28/09/2018 20:21

The Associated Press

Verified account

@AP

"BREAKING: Kavanaugh friend Mark Judge says he'll cooperate with any law enforcement agency that investigates 'confidentially.'"

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ohmymimi · 28/09/2018 20:26

Conver

Sahil Kapur
@sahilkapur
View from the Senate hallway outside McConnell’s office where Flake is now... a ~few~ reporters are waiting for him to emerge.
mobile.twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1045753198563262465/photo/2

AcrossthePond55 · 28/09/2018 20:28

Damned if I didn't have a zillion interruptions! Why is it that when you want to concentrate on something important everyone and their mother needs you to do something!

As I've been able to piece it together (as news sources are assuming viewers are already in the know), Kavanaugh was approved by Committee and his nomination will advance to the Senate, but Flake (and others?) is promising there will be a limited-in-scope investigation by the FBI before a full vote is taken. Meanwhile Flake doesn't have the authority to make such a promise and Yertle the Turtle (McConnell) can shout "HA! Fooled ya!!!" and call for a full vote immediately.

Do I have my facts straight?

Breaking per MSNBC; Mark Judge agrees to cooperate with the FBI or any agency investigating Kavanaugh.

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