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Aibu to think she's the one who should apologize?

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TheExamStartsNow · 15/09/2018 11:46

This is so weird, I need some unbiased opinions.

We were at a family gathering yesterday. I was inside helping the host (my husband's aunt) with food prep, my husband was superving our two children (aged 4 and 7) in the garden, there were other various relatives milling about between the kitchen, garden, and living room.

Husband's cousin, Helen, arrives with her 2 kids, but goes straight in to garden with them. As I'm preparing stuff, I'm half looking out the window at the kids all playing. After a few minutes, I'm aware that my husband and Helen's body language looks like they're having an argument - she looks furious, he is pulling an "Are you serious?!" type face and then walks away from her. She follows after pointing at him and saying something, he sort of waves her off over his shoulder and goes in to the living room. She walks off crying and goes to her car. My husband went back to supervising the 4 kids. I went out to get the gossip help him.

He said "ive just had a row with Helen. DS1 told her his joke, she went mad..."

I'll interject here, and explain my 7 year old has learnt this annoying joke from a tv show he watches:

Knock knock
Who's there?
Ididap
Ididap who?
Ha! You said "I did a poo!"

Juvenile, yes. I certainly don't encourage toilet humour, but it doesn't seem that unusual for boys his age either IME. A simple "That's not appropriate" is adequate.

However, Helen was deeply offended by this. She said to my 7 year old "what kind of school do you go to that they teach you to be so rude?! That's the way to never get a job when you're older, talking that way!"

My husband replied "you're overreacting, and my kids are 4 and 7, so I don't think you need to worry about their job prospects just yet."

7 year old then asked to tell her another joke. She replied "I don't want to hear anything else from you until you apologise to me." I doubt ds1 really understood what he was apologising for, but immediately said sorry and then asked if he could tell her another joke. She crossly replied "I don't want to hear anything from you, your dad should be telling you off!"

Husband then started to walk away. She came after him saying "you ought to tell him off for being rude, I thought you were raising him better..."

Husband, losing patience, said "wind your neck in and stop following me. He's apologised, you need to let it go. Thats the end of it"

She then stormed off to cry in her car.
She eventually came back in wearing huge sunglasses and proceeded to ignore everyone for the rest of the party. I tried saying hello to her, as this was the first I'd actually seen her, and she blanked me. So I said louder "hello helen" and she grunted "hi" and walked off. When we came to say bye to everyone, she again said nothing.

I have rationalized this as being such an overreaction from her that she must have something else going on in her life that has made her snap over something so trivial. So I'm therefore being patient/understanding. However, I do think she has crossed a line by saying things about my childrens' schooling and future chances of employment?! It's such a ludicrous thing for her to say, but she said it directly to my 7 year old which I think is much ruder than the original joke. For context, she has always made snide digs about their school. Things like pointing out her kid's school is rated Ofsted outstanding, and ours is only good (still not sure why she felt the need to look up our rating?!) she is quite a competitive person though, and definitely likes to feel her kid's have/do better than everyone else's. So this comment about their school felt like a personal dig rather than an off the cuff comment.

My 7 year old has already forgotten it. I'm not angry, just baffled.

Unfortunately, in this side of the family, whoever cries or acts the most offended is the one who is owed an apology. Uncle has suggested ds1 should properly apologise, maybe in a letter, and said that toilet humour is a big no-no in their house. Ds1 was nonplussed but a bit baffled and asked "but why? It's just poo. We all do it"

I'm kind thinking she should be apologising for overreacting though. He was a bit rude, but she was ruder. She may have other stuff going on, I don't know, but I can honestly say I've had a pretty life changing year in terms of shit stuff, and I've never taken it out on anyone else, especially a 7 year old!

Aibu?

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Onthebrink87 · 15/09/2018 16:04

Oh and consider yourself lucky! When ds2 was around 6 he came to me with this belter....
If there are 3 birds in the garden and one got shot, how many birds are now on the garden?
Me (with an eyebrow so raised it was in my hairline) err 2?
Ds no still 3. Ones just dead.

I thought his school was fab, turns out they're just churning out sociopaths!

YeTalkShiteHen · 15/09/2018 16:04

Onthebrink87 Grin

IWishIHadEvenMorePlasticTat · 15/09/2018 16:09

Helen is a silly poo poo head.

BarbarianMum · 15/09/2018 16:10

She over-reacted but hour dh could have handled it a lot better. He should have suggested that your ds apologise for upsetting his aunt (because he did, even if unintentionally) and he could have placated her by saying he'd speak to him about it - andvthen explained to your ds that not everyone likes to hear poo/wee jokes and Aunt Helen is in this category.

IrmaFayLear · 15/09/2018 16:12

My favourite joke:

Why did the baker have brown hands?

Because he kneaded a poo...

Hee hee.

FrayedHem · 15/09/2018 16:21

Here's one for the family gathering, it's a 2 part-er which I think is considered to be KS2 level.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
To get to the idiot's house.

Knock Knock
Who's there?
The chicken.

WizzbangWallopWot · 15/09/2018 16:22

@NailsNeedDoing clearly and quite frankly thank god you are in the minority, it's not rude, it's not disrespectful it's a 7 year old behaving like a happy 7 year old. I wouldn't want the Victorian children are seen and not heard attitude in my family.

The cousin (who doesn't call all random adults aunt, because their not) is batshit crazy crying and being offend by the word poo! I might of understand if he'd called her a shit head but even that although warranted by her behaviour does not prompt crocodile tears!

Great joke OP. I'd get him a toilet humour joke book to send to the batshit crazy aunt.

💩💩💩💩💩

MulticolourMophead · 15/09/2018 16:25

I suspect Helen is insecure, and tries to use these things to act and therefore feel superior to others to ward off the insecurity.

She really was OTT.

I'm nearly 50 and can easily corpse at the sound of a fart, so poo jokes are funny too. My DCs also find toilet humour funny, and they're teens.

WizzbangWallopWot · 15/09/2018 16:25

@BarbarianMum he didn't upset the cousin, she is batshit crazy that's why she's upset. She can't expect family members to pander to her ridiculously fragility that makes her cry and react like that because of a joke and the subsequent reaction to her batshit reaction of being told to wind her neck in.

Mumshotel · 15/09/2018 16:27

She's a knobhead. You and your family have done nothing wrong. She continued to be horrible to your son after he said sorry. She should have left it at that.

Needahairbrush · 15/09/2018 16:34

He should draw her a picture of a poop, smiling and waving with a speech bubble saying sorry.

Ha, this ^ or saying ‘get a grip Helen’

My 9 year old thought it was funny, Helen is a fun sponge.

RockinHippy · 15/09/2018 16:37

Your cousin is an attention seeking nutter. She absolutely should be apologising to you & DH for berating your young boy is such an unacceptable way. No way in hell would I entertain apologising to such a woman & id be very glad if that saw her cut us off. Dead wood needs pruning, pruning itself is always a blessing

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 15/09/2018 16:37

Tbh I don’t think your son even needs to apologise tbh. She’s a muppet.

DartmoorDoughnut · 15/09/2018 16:39

Just tell uncle your DS said sorry already and she has totally over reacted and was ruder to your DS than the joke was. When she writes him an apology letter for insinuating that his future job prospects are limited you will get him to write her an apology letter for telling a poo joke.

FFS what a total twat Helen is!

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 15/09/2018 16:50

As Helen likes drama I think the best way of proving how sorry you are is by providing some.

Announce that you think that Helen said something whilst alone with your son last week. “He’s been having nightmares about her all week - he’s traumatised! The school are so worried! They are considering calling in the police! Helen - what did you say to Fred? I need to know! What did you say? What have you done to my baby?” (Maybe some sobbing on the floor now.) “Dh - keep the children out - you know it is triggering for them to be in the same room as Helen! They must be kept safe from her! We can’t let her damage them even more! Oh - my babies! My poor babies! Helen! What did you do to my babies?! If you won’t tell us then we will have no choice but to go to the police! Oh - my babies!”

And then sweep out dramatically in search of (healing) wine.....

BadLad · 15/09/2018 17:20

*Husband, losing patience, said "wind your neck in"

He has to be a mumsnetter if he said that.

YeTalkShiteHen · 15/09/2018 17:22

If someone was badgering and belittling my child for fuck all, “wind your neck in” would be fairly mild!

It’s a common phrase where I live.

DartmoorDoughnut · 15/09/2018 17:31

@BadLad I heard it from my DH long before I heard it on MN

JenFromTheGlen · 15/09/2018 17:45

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WhoWants2Know · 15/09/2018 17:55

I remember that joke from Little Lunch. It's just the sort of humour that kids find funny, and Aunt Helen is nuts.

TheExamStartsNow · 15/09/2018 18:04

Just catching up on replies Grin so many funny responses and suggestions for gifts to buy helen/Her children. Secretly hoping I get one of her clan for secret Santa this year! Or, when its her eldest's birthday in October, I could slyly slip pooping dog game an extra gift on the present table with no tag and hope she blames one of his friends from the outstanding school. When he unwraps it, I'll feign outrage and declare "goodness me, what are they teaching in that school?! How terribly uncouth!"

She's not faecally incontinence to my knowledge, so on the random chance she is, it certainly isn't general knowledge that my 7 year old might be privy to. And she usually wears very tight, flimsy clothing that would probably be impractical if you were wearing incontinence underwear.

My husband definitely didnt shout, but he would've been abrupt, which I guess might've upset her, but she was far more confrontational than he was. I think that's why he walked away, rather than actually lose his cool, but she flowed him to carry on. Not sure what she expected? Maybe that he's stand their silently until she'd finished berating him 🤷🏼‍♀️

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TheExamStartsNow · 15/09/2018 18:05

@whowantstoknow that's it! Ds1 loves that series and watches it over and over and over...

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YeTalkShiteHen · 15/09/2018 18:06

Not sure what she expected? Maybe that he's stand their silently until she'd finished berating him

I’m sure she did! For some reason your update brought to mind a saying my Grannie would say sagely “dinnae write cheques yer arse cannae cash” (in English it means don’t dish it out if you can’t take it! But I felt the Scottish version was more apt given the subject matter Grin)

LorelaiRoryEmily · 15/09/2018 18:13

I think my DH will appreciate that joke! She’s an idiot

TheExamStartsNow · 15/09/2018 18:31

YeTalk, I love that saying and am going to adopt it

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