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AIBU?

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Aibu to think she's the one who should apologize?

219 replies

TheExamStartsNow · 15/09/2018 11:46

This is so weird, I need some unbiased opinions.

We were at a family gathering yesterday. I was inside helping the host (my husband's aunt) with food prep, my husband was superving our two children (aged 4 and 7) in the garden, there were other various relatives milling about between the kitchen, garden, and living room.

Husband's cousin, Helen, arrives with her 2 kids, but goes straight in to garden with them. As I'm preparing stuff, I'm half looking out the window at the kids all playing. After a few minutes, I'm aware that my husband and Helen's body language looks like they're having an argument - she looks furious, he is pulling an "Are you serious?!" type face and then walks away from her. She follows after pointing at him and saying something, he sort of waves her off over his shoulder and goes in to the living room. She walks off crying and goes to her car. My husband went back to supervising the 4 kids. I went out to get the gossip help him.

He said "ive just had a row with Helen. DS1 told her his joke, she went mad..."

I'll interject here, and explain my 7 year old has learnt this annoying joke from a tv show he watches:

Knock knock
Who's there?
Ididap
Ididap who?
Ha! You said "I did a poo!"

Juvenile, yes. I certainly don't encourage toilet humour, but it doesn't seem that unusual for boys his age either IME. A simple "That's not appropriate" is adequate.

However, Helen was deeply offended by this. She said to my 7 year old "what kind of school do you go to that they teach you to be so rude?! That's the way to never get a job when you're older, talking that way!"

My husband replied "you're overreacting, and my kids are 4 and 7, so I don't think you need to worry about their job prospects just yet."

7 year old then asked to tell her another joke. She replied "I don't want to hear anything else from you until you apologise to me." I doubt ds1 really understood what he was apologising for, but immediately said sorry and then asked if he could tell her another joke. She crossly replied "I don't want to hear anything from you, your dad should be telling you off!"

Husband then started to walk away. She came after him saying "you ought to tell him off for being rude, I thought you were raising him better..."

Husband, losing patience, said "wind your neck in and stop following me. He's apologised, you need to let it go. Thats the end of it"

She then stormed off to cry in her car.
She eventually came back in wearing huge sunglasses and proceeded to ignore everyone for the rest of the party. I tried saying hello to her, as this was the first I'd actually seen her, and she blanked me. So I said louder "hello helen" and she grunted "hi" and walked off. When we came to say bye to everyone, she again said nothing.

I have rationalized this as being such an overreaction from her that she must have something else going on in her life that has made her snap over something so trivial. So I'm therefore being patient/understanding. However, I do think she has crossed a line by saying things about my childrens' schooling and future chances of employment?! It's such a ludicrous thing for her to say, but she said it directly to my 7 year old which I think is much ruder than the original joke. For context, she has always made snide digs about their school. Things like pointing out her kid's school is rated Ofsted outstanding, and ours is only good (still not sure why she felt the need to look up our rating?!) she is quite a competitive person though, and definitely likes to feel her kid's have/do better than everyone else's. So this comment about their school felt like a personal dig rather than an off the cuff comment.

My 7 year old has already forgotten it. I'm not angry, just baffled.

Unfortunately, in this side of the family, whoever cries or acts the most offended is the one who is owed an apology. Uncle has suggested ds1 should properly apologise, maybe in a letter, and said that toilet humour is a big no-no in their house. Ds1 was nonplussed but a bit baffled and asked "but why? It's just poo. We all do it"

I'm kind thinking she should be apologising for overreacting though. He was a bit rude, but she was ruder. She may have other stuff going on, I don't know, but I can honestly say I've had a pretty life changing year in terms of shit stuff, and I've never taken it out on anyone else, especially a 7 year old!

Aibu?

OP posts:
eddielizzard · 15/09/2018 13:48

She should apologise for saying such awful things to a 7 yo who wouldn't understand, and causing an unpleasant and unnecessary atmosphere.

I'd ignore her from henceforth.

FluffySox · 15/09/2018 13:49

If every Mumsnetter tells every child they know every poo joke on this thread and tells them to tell their friends, with any luck by Monday pick up time Uptight Cousin's children will come out of school with at least two poo jokes to tell.

Collective consciousness type thing innit?

Kissmycousinkate · 15/09/2018 13:50

The old ones are always the best!

I can't believe she's never heard this before, I remember this from when I was young and I'm nearing 50!

Think Helen is off her rocker, do not apologise

Gettingbackonmyfeet · 15/09/2018 13:55

She's nuts and a drama queen to boot

I'm in a house with three bloody males (granted two of them are 6 and 3 and not the worst by any means!!)

I hate toilet humour but frankly you have to get on with it....and if I hear another fart joke I may lose my mind (I fully am aware they do it to annoy me now)

I might...might....maybe mention to my ds to choose his audience a bit more carefully but more likely I would just roll my eyes and tell him to behave (whilst DP was sniggering in the background) but I would definately have told her not to be so dramatic at the time

Am with others , no apology ,no need...just tell that side of the family they at evening ridiculous and to let it go

Fluffychickenmonkey · 15/09/2018 13:56

She sounds like a miserable woman, he won't get a job if he makes poo jokes?? How can an adult be so ridiculous!

justilou1 · 15/09/2018 13:57

She is an adult who cries when she doesn’t get immediate gratification from a small kid. (Or stupid jokes, it would seem..... I would assume that Helen is an attention-seeking twat who needs to be ignored.)

Otterseatpuffinsdontthey · 15/09/2018 13:58

This thread brought back a very distant memory - regarding poo humour.
My friend had bought an imitation poo + plastic flies.
Laid said items near teacher's desk/blackboard.
Teacher went ballistic!
Unfortunately, for my friend, this was when the "Lochgelly Tawse" was still in use Grin

Fluffycloudland77 · 15/09/2018 13:59

Drama likes this needs oxygen. best not to give it any

user1495997773 · 15/09/2018 13:59

Your son sounds great TheExamStartsNow He can come to my house and tell jokes with my DS and we'll all guffaw together! X

MrsKCastle · 15/09/2018 14:06

Well, my 7 and 10 year olds have just fallen about in hysterics at that joke, OP! Thanks for adding a new one to their repertoir, although my husband has been rolling his eyes at me for teaching it to them.

Helen is nuts. Unless perhaps she has incontinence issues and thinks that you have all been deliberately making fun of her?

Elephant14 · 15/09/2018 14:07

dear god what a piece of work. She should be apologising!!

MissusGeneHunt · 15/09/2018 14:09

Tell Helen to unclench and get a bloody grip, the woman's off her rocker.

Actually, unclenching might be too graphic for her.... A professionally offended person, methinks!

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 15/09/2018 14:11

The only way she was right to be offended if is she has some poo related health issue and everyone is aware of it, and even then a word with a parent would be more appropriate

It was horrible to -

  • Say something to your son
  • Link it to his future job prospects
  • Mention his education
  • continue to be mean even after he apologised
  • continue to be childish and moody to everyone after he stopped telling her jokes. Achieved nothing

No way would I apologise again (and I am someone who says sorry constantly) it's just teaching him that someone being offended trumps his right to say what he wants (within reason, it would be different if he was being racist or sexist or mean). Also he has already said sorry it's up to her if she doesn't want to accept a 7 year olds apology for telling a poo joke then she's just going to come across as batshit to all.

If you want to reach out I'd just get your husband to call and ask if she's OK as she didn't seem herself

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 15/09/2018 14:14

Also I'm pretty sure no job interviews involve discussions of appropriateness of poo jokes??

Gettingbackonmyfeet · 15/09/2018 14:16

Weirdly I'm in the care sector and whilst no granted it's not in the interview being overly uptight about such things would cause an issue

Helen would be the one with issues in our job (and many many others is suspect for different reasons)

Professionally offended maybe?there she would be fine

Cupoteap · 15/09/2018 14:22

She's in the wrong, defo do the interrupting cow next time Smile

Gigglebrain · 15/09/2018 14:23

busy telling my two boys all these poo jokes

AspieHere · 15/09/2018 14:24

Along with Cards Against Humanity (an excellent idea btw) as a present, get her kids that shitting dog game. Sounds like she'll really appreciate it. Or that gross science set.

Whocansay · 15/09/2018 14:27

Both my DSs love that joke. My 7 yr old also likes to make fart noises with his armpit. She'd love him!

Cousin is utterly ridiculous and should apologise to your son for her rudeness and total overreaction. Hopefully you don't have to see her much. She sounds like a fun sucker.

LEELULUMPKIN · 15/09/2018 14:31

Every family has batshit members. Helen is yours.

ArtemisWeatherwax · 15/09/2018 14:36

I think I met your Helen in the park once. Her 3 year old said "hey, can I get on the roundabout" so I said yes and started pushing him. She came running over, stopped the roundabout and made him apologise for saying "hey" as it was a rude word. Seriously Hmm

SeamstressfromTreacleMineRoad · 15/09/2018 14:39

My 8 year-old DGS told me that joke - I laughed, and passed it on to his 6 year-old cousin - who roared with laughter... That's the response that I'd expect from an adult. Kids of that age love poo jokes..! Grin

Mummyoflittledragon · 15/09/2018 14:42

Helen obviously thinks she is a superior parent with a superior life and superior children. I see that the majority on here beg to differ. I feel sorry for her kids having to behave like they were born 150 years ago.

BettyDuMonde · 15/09/2018 14:42

He should draw her a picture of a poop, smiling and waving with a speech bubble saying sorry.

LoveObject · 15/09/2018 14:43

Tell Helen I’m a university admissions tutor, and I won’t even consider interviewing someone who hasn’t displayed an enthusiasm for poo jokes in their PS.

Ridiculous? Absolutely, but so is suggesting a seven year old’s taste in Knock Knock jokes is going to make him unemployable. Honestly.