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Aibu to think she's the one who should apologize?

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TheExamStartsNow · 15/09/2018 11:46

This is so weird, I need some unbiased opinions.

We were at a family gathering yesterday. I was inside helping the host (my husband's aunt) with food prep, my husband was superving our two children (aged 4 and 7) in the garden, there were other various relatives milling about between the kitchen, garden, and living room.

Husband's cousin, Helen, arrives with her 2 kids, but goes straight in to garden with them. As I'm preparing stuff, I'm half looking out the window at the kids all playing. After a few minutes, I'm aware that my husband and Helen's body language looks like they're having an argument - she looks furious, he is pulling an "Are you serious?!" type face and then walks away from her. She follows after pointing at him and saying something, he sort of waves her off over his shoulder and goes in to the living room. She walks off crying and goes to her car. My husband went back to supervising the 4 kids. I went out to get the gossip help him.

He said "ive just had a row with Helen. DS1 told her his joke, she went mad..."

I'll interject here, and explain my 7 year old has learnt this annoying joke from a tv show he watches:

Knock knock
Who's there?
Ididap
Ididap who?
Ha! You said "I did a poo!"

Juvenile, yes. I certainly don't encourage toilet humour, but it doesn't seem that unusual for boys his age either IME. A simple "That's not appropriate" is adequate.

However, Helen was deeply offended by this. She said to my 7 year old "what kind of school do you go to that they teach you to be so rude?! That's the way to never get a job when you're older, talking that way!"

My husband replied "you're overreacting, and my kids are 4 and 7, so I don't think you need to worry about their job prospects just yet."

7 year old then asked to tell her another joke. She replied "I don't want to hear anything else from you until you apologise to me." I doubt ds1 really understood what he was apologising for, but immediately said sorry and then asked if he could tell her another joke. She crossly replied "I don't want to hear anything from you, your dad should be telling you off!"

Husband then started to walk away. She came after him saying "you ought to tell him off for being rude, I thought you were raising him better..."

Husband, losing patience, said "wind your neck in and stop following me. He's apologised, you need to let it go. Thats the end of it"

She then stormed off to cry in her car.
She eventually came back in wearing huge sunglasses and proceeded to ignore everyone for the rest of the party. I tried saying hello to her, as this was the first I'd actually seen her, and she blanked me. So I said louder "hello helen" and she grunted "hi" and walked off. When we came to say bye to everyone, she again said nothing.

I have rationalized this as being such an overreaction from her that she must have something else going on in her life that has made her snap over something so trivial. So I'm therefore being patient/understanding. However, I do think she has crossed a line by saying things about my childrens' schooling and future chances of employment?! It's such a ludicrous thing for her to say, but she said it directly to my 7 year old which I think is much ruder than the original joke. For context, she has always made snide digs about their school. Things like pointing out her kid's school is rated Ofsted outstanding, and ours is only good (still not sure why she felt the need to look up our rating?!) she is quite a competitive person though, and definitely likes to feel her kid's have/do better than everyone else's. So this comment about their school felt like a personal dig rather than an off the cuff comment.

My 7 year old has already forgotten it. I'm not angry, just baffled.

Unfortunately, in this side of the family, whoever cries or acts the most offended is the one who is owed an apology. Uncle has suggested ds1 should properly apologise, maybe in a letter, and said that toilet humour is a big no-no in their house. Ds1 was nonplussed but a bit baffled and asked "but why? It's just poo. We all do it"

I'm kind thinking she should be apologising for overreacting though. He was a bit rude, but she was ruder. She may have other stuff going on, I don't know, but I can honestly say I've had a pretty life changing year in terms of shit stuff, and I've never taken it out on anyone else, especially a 7 year old!

Aibu?

OP posts:
Oliversmumsarmy · 15/09/2018 12:35

what kind of school do you go to that they teach you to be so rude

One that obviously has a weekly lesson in rudeness in the curriculum.

TheDarkPassenger · 15/09/2018 12:35

Genuinely how do people get through life being so boring and dull?!

And also, I’d have to have said something to her about what she said to my son. Not acceptable at all imo it’s well below the belt!

She just needs a big ol spliff and chill the fuck out

TheExamStartsNow · 15/09/2018 12:36

Oh Thank God. I thought me not getting what the big deal was meant I'm doing a really bad job at parenting Blush

I think the Europe version is funnier than the original! I probably won't share it with ds1 though, so I don't encourage his bad behaviour.

He's definitely not writing the letter. When uncle said that, I politely said "No, that's uneccessary. He already apologised, and I think she was overreacting anyway." He just shrugged. I don't think he really cares tbh, I think he (all of them, really) don't like conflict, and think the easiest way to resolve this would be to make the crying/upset person feel better, whether they deserve it or not. Maybe I should've coached ds1 to throw himself to the floor and howl with tears at how distraught he was to hear he's condemned to a future of unemployment. Maybe she'd be made to apologise then? Generally, we are quite stoic/chilled out, and her and her kid's cry A LOT. But that doesn't automatically make them in the right/owed an apology.

Her kids are roughly the same age as us and boys too. They, none of them, make jokes though. She definitely discourages any silliness. I remember our eldests both going through a stage when they were around 3, of making up nonsense/gobbledygook words when playing. I just assumed it was a natural phase, like an exploring of language or whatever, but she would get so angry when her son did it and would tell him off for being silly.

I think DH was just taken aback. I was the one to point out to him that what she said to our son was out of line, I don't think he realised in the midst of the situation as he was put on the spot. I think, or like to think, I'd have challenged her on how she spoke to him. Whereas dh typically will walk away and try to shut situation a down rather than confront it.

OP posts:
Deadringer · 15/09/2018 12:37

She's nuts.

Ophelialovescats · 15/09/2018 12:41

Hilarious!
Is she usually so OTT?
Just to point out that , as a mother of four daughters, it's not just boys who make poo jokes .

dueanotherchange · 15/09/2018 12:41

Good lord your DS wasn’t being badly behaved! He was being 7!! If you can’t tell a poo joke to a family member at the age of 7 the world’s gone mad!

If DD (6) did that i’d say ‘eh, no thank you!’ While laughing!!

Hawkmoth · 15/09/2018 12:42

Dear Helen,

I'm sorry you don't like jokes.

Here's some glitter instead.

dueanotherchange · 15/09/2018 12:42

Also, I’m going to tell DD1 this. She’ll love it Grin

jellyfrizz · 15/09/2018 12:42

There's a few of 'em, this was a favourite in our house for a while:

Knock, knock
Who's there?
I eat mype
I eat mype who?

Ha, ha you just said I eat my poo.

Sparklesocks · 15/09/2018 12:43

Ridiculous! Kids love toilet humour jokes. They don’t mean anything by it. Yes maybe you can ask them to tone it down if it’s too much, but one poo joke isn’t going to kill anyone.
Helen sounds like a drama queen who desperately needs attention. Ignore ignore!

mimibunz · 15/09/2018 12:48

She cried! Lol! I’m the sort who would make up a special song about poo and sing it under my breath in front of her.

PhilomenaButterfly · 15/09/2018 12:48

She's batshit.

Otterseatpuffinsdontthey · 15/09/2018 12:49

@NailsNeedDoing
Good idea to read a post properly - helps to keep responses accurate IMO.
The child told a joke to his father's cousin - not his aunt.
This was a 7 year old - the reaction from the adult was neither polite nor respectful.
His parents have dealt with this properly and appropriately.
Child has already verbally apologised - nothing further required from him - certainly not written.
The offended adult has, obviously, some other issue(s) happening.

mummyhaschangedhername · 15/09/2018 12:50

She's crazy, I'm not a particular fan of toilet humour but having multiple boys I've learnt it's part and parcel for the most part, it's not offensive it's just about taste, but Her reaction is way way OTT.

Glumglowworm · 15/09/2018 12:51

She is massively overreacting

I’ve yet to meet a 7 year old who wouldn’t find that funny. And most of them haven’t yet got the social graces to realise that it’s not appropriate for all circumstances.

But all it required was a “don’t tell aunt Helen poo jokes, she doesn’t like it” and move swiftly on. It’s not a particularly offensive joke, it wasn’t mean or at her expense, it’s just mild toilet humour.

This level of hysteria from an adult because a 7 year old told them a poo joke is absolutely ridiculous and I wouldn’t pander to it.

PhilomenaButterfly · 15/09/2018 12:52

YeTalk can he tell my 11yo DD to stop being so po-faced? Maybe it's a girl thing. 😂

YeTalkShiteHen · 15/09/2018 12:54

PhilomenaButterfly she could probably teach DS1 when it’s good to be po faced so they could rub off on each other! Grin

NailsNeedDoing · 15/09/2018 12:56

I agree the child doesn't need to apologise, and I agreed that the woman overreacted.

You're right though that it was a parents cousin, not an aunt. I'm clearly projecting as my children refer to my cousins as Aunt/Uncle and my cousin's children call me Aunt.

Sorry.

I still don't think it's appropriate or polite for a 7 year old to say 'Ha! You said I did a poo' to an adult. But clearly I'm in the minority.

heroindisguise · 15/09/2018 12:58

Helen is a dickhead. Her poor children.

I'm very impressed at how your seven old handled the situation OP!

FrayedHem · 15/09/2018 12:58

It does read that Helen doesn't like your parenting choices and saw this as an excuse to let rip. I do wonder if she'll use it to refuse to attend any more family get togethers whilst your family is there. Time will tell.

I really wouldn't give it any further attention.

And teach your son the Euorpe version. You'll be harming his employment prospects if you don't!

wolfywolfy · 15/09/2018 13:00

Maybe it brought back some horrific memories of her pooing herself or something ...
What an insane reaction from an insane woman

happinessischocolate · 15/09/2018 13:03

I love it that your ds continued to ask her if he could tell her another joke 😂

Can you ask him what the 2nd joke was going to be?

Iputthescrewinthetuna · 15/09/2018 13:07

Knock knock

Who's there

Idarunip

Ididarunip who

Haha you should see a dr about that.

My 4 year olds favourite joke!

Send this....

Aibu to think she's the one who should apologize?
Iputthescrewinthetuna · 15/09/2018 13:07

*meant 'ididarunip'

Oliversmumsarmy · 15/09/2018 13:09

For the few that found it disrespectful are you not teaching your children to think before coming and speaking with you about anything that you might have indicated was out of bounds.

FWIW dd and ds who are still into toilet humour are gainfully self employed and at college with bright prospects.

How do people live their lives getting offended at everything and not laughing at silly things.

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