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Aibu to think she's the one who should apologize?

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TheExamStartsNow · 15/09/2018 11:46

This is so weird, I need some unbiased opinions.

We were at a family gathering yesterday. I was inside helping the host (my husband's aunt) with food prep, my husband was superving our two children (aged 4 and 7) in the garden, there were other various relatives milling about between the kitchen, garden, and living room.

Husband's cousin, Helen, arrives with her 2 kids, but goes straight in to garden with them. As I'm preparing stuff, I'm half looking out the window at the kids all playing. After a few minutes, I'm aware that my husband and Helen's body language looks like they're having an argument - she looks furious, he is pulling an "Are you serious?!" type face and then walks away from her. She follows after pointing at him and saying something, he sort of waves her off over his shoulder and goes in to the living room. She walks off crying and goes to her car. My husband went back to supervising the 4 kids. I went out to get the gossip help him.

He said "ive just had a row with Helen. DS1 told her his joke, she went mad..."

I'll interject here, and explain my 7 year old has learnt this annoying joke from a tv show he watches:

Knock knock
Who's there?
Ididap
Ididap who?
Ha! You said "I did a poo!"

Juvenile, yes. I certainly don't encourage toilet humour, but it doesn't seem that unusual for boys his age either IME. A simple "That's not appropriate" is adequate.

However, Helen was deeply offended by this. She said to my 7 year old "what kind of school do you go to that they teach you to be so rude?! That's the way to never get a job when you're older, talking that way!"

My husband replied "you're overreacting, and my kids are 4 and 7, so I don't think you need to worry about their job prospects just yet."

7 year old then asked to tell her another joke. She replied "I don't want to hear anything else from you until you apologise to me." I doubt ds1 really understood what he was apologising for, but immediately said sorry and then asked if he could tell her another joke. She crossly replied "I don't want to hear anything from you, your dad should be telling you off!"

Husband then started to walk away. She came after him saying "you ought to tell him off for being rude, I thought you were raising him better..."

Husband, losing patience, said "wind your neck in and stop following me. He's apologised, you need to let it go. Thats the end of it"

She then stormed off to cry in her car.
She eventually came back in wearing huge sunglasses and proceeded to ignore everyone for the rest of the party. I tried saying hello to her, as this was the first I'd actually seen her, and she blanked me. So I said louder "hello helen" and she grunted "hi" and walked off. When we came to say bye to everyone, she again said nothing.

I have rationalized this as being such an overreaction from her that she must have something else going on in her life that has made her snap over something so trivial. So I'm therefore being patient/understanding. However, I do think she has crossed a line by saying things about my childrens' schooling and future chances of employment?! It's such a ludicrous thing for her to say, but she said it directly to my 7 year old which I think is much ruder than the original joke. For context, she has always made snide digs about their school. Things like pointing out her kid's school is rated Ofsted outstanding, and ours is only good (still not sure why she felt the need to look up our rating?!) she is quite a competitive person though, and definitely likes to feel her kid's have/do better than everyone else's. So this comment about their school felt like a personal dig rather than an off the cuff comment.

My 7 year old has already forgotten it. I'm not angry, just baffled.

Unfortunately, in this side of the family, whoever cries or acts the most offended is the one who is owed an apology. Uncle has suggested ds1 should properly apologise, maybe in a letter, and said that toilet humour is a big no-no in their house. Ds1 was nonplussed but a bit baffled and asked "but why? It's just poo. We all do it"

I'm kind thinking she should be apologising for overreacting though. He was a bit rude, but she was ruder. She may have other stuff going on, I don't know, but I can honestly say I've had a pretty life changing year in terms of shit stuff, and I've never taken it out on anyone else, especially a 7 year old!

Aibu?

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areyoubeingserviced · 15/09/2018 14:46

Don’t write the stupid cow an apology.
The fact that she questioned your dh’s parenting skills and criticised your choice of school would piss me off
She’s a drama queen with issues. Ignore her and don’t rise to it

BettyDuMonde · 15/09/2018 14:47

I suppose she could be faecally incontinent? In which case she has a reason to be over sensitive, but she’s still being unreasonable to demand multiple apologies.

My very elderly great aunt got mad at one of my tiny young cousins who watched a tv show on slugs and snails and at the end, turned proudly to said great aunt and told her that she resembled a slug in close up.
He wasn’t wrong.
She wasn’t happy.
He was only about 3.
I don’t think she ever really forgave him.

QuizzlyBear · 15/09/2018 14:48

I love that joke and I'm now saving it to tell to my own nephews tomorrow. Anyone who is 'deeply offended' by jokes about poo, farts and other mild bodily functions should avoid spending any time around little boys because it's a very natural part of their social development.

In fact, what would she expect from a joke told by a 7 year old? A gently witty treatise that combines the absurdity of modern life with a nod to current events?! FFS get a life, YANBU.

LuluJakey1 · 15/09/2018 14:48

Dh told DS (3 1/2) a joke a few weeks ago. It didn't work out well.

DH 'Knock knock'
DS 'Why are you saying 'knock knock' Daddy?'
DH 'It is a joke. I'm pretending to knock on the door. You have to say 'Who's there?' I'll do it again 'Knock knock' '
DS says nothing.
DH 'You say who's there?'
DS 'But I know it's you'
DH 'We are pretending. It's a joke.'
DS 'But I can see you'.
DH 'Just say it. 'Knock knock'
DS 'I don't want to say it. Go and knock on the door Daddy'
DH Goes to room door and knocks
DS 'Come in Daddy'
He gave up.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 15/09/2018 14:49

Honestly Helen has a major sense of humour bypass. It's no wonder she's always crying when she has such a bleak out look that she gets offended over a bloody innocent joke told by a 7 year old.
I mean had it been bloody racist or disablist I'd have been on HelenS side.
Please do not get your son to write a sorry letter

areyoubeingserviced · 15/09/2018 14:50

Lulu- that made me laugh

VimFuego101 · 15/09/2018 15:01

Maybe Helen is constipated and sensitive about poo?

MissEliza · 15/09/2018 15:03

Get her kids that shitting dog game. Yes yes!

RibbonAurora · 15/09/2018 15:14

Do not apologise or have your son apologise to Helen. For one thing he already did so and she was still ungracious enough to give him a further reprimand. For another she is the one who should apologise for a gross overreaction to a 7 year old's attempt at humour and for being rude enough to comment on your parenting and how you choose to educate your children. I wouldn't give it or her a further thought until next time she presumes to criticise within your hearing, then you should burst into noisy tears and run from the room.

LEELULUMPKIN · 15/09/2018 15:18

I'd be tempted to send an email full of nothing but poo emoji's.

Pigflewpast · 15/09/2018 15:21

You need to buy one of her boys Plop Trumps for his birthday, Top Trumps of animal poos, brilliant game. DS got it in his stocking at about that age and we had a happy family Christmas playing it with the grandparents

Rebecca36 · 15/09/2018 15:23

The cousin was being stupid, it's a very mild children's joke. She must be quite 'prissy'. However I do not think it was worth falling out over, sounds like your husband over reacted if he was shouting and she left.

PrincessWire · 15/09/2018 15:35

I am 42 years old and I approve that joke.

Helen is batty. I am very much employed and my team have a joke competition every day. Tbh any joke that mentions poo has a high chance of winning.

Helen needs to apologise to your DS...

PrincessWire · 15/09/2018 15:36

Now I'm off to finger plop trumps on amazon 😎

Ohyesiam · 15/09/2018 15:36

She’s nuts, but don’t get drawn into it. Partly because you’ll never win but mostly because why waste your energy? You can’t argue with bonkers.
I’d talk to my son about how Aunt is a bit over sensitive, so you can’t be relaxed around her, but ask if he’s got any thoughts about it.
I’d rather be one of your kids than one of hers that’s for sure.

PrincessWire · 15/09/2018 15:37

Omfg why doesn't this site have an edit button? Find not finger! I do not want to finger any plops!!!

Ohyesiam · 15/09/2018 15:37

And remember competitive people are really insecure, so they try to control everything.

KurriKurri · 15/09/2018 15:39

Loving your boy lulu Grin

I think the ones with a real word as the 'who's there' work better - like the Eurpoe one, rather than the made up word ones. (Yes I am fifty eight year old deconstructing a poo joke Grin)

i think it's really sad Helen doesn;t let her boys be silly. Some of my happiest childhood memories ar of rolling around on the floor with my sister literally weeping with laughter at something totally silly and each of us spluttering out an even sillier thing to set the laughter off again. We can still set each other off snorting and sniggering when we think something is daft, even though she's even older than me.

Honestly at what other time is your DS going to be able to revel in the hilarity of poo jokes if not when he's seven.

Your DH's cousin sounds like a person who could suck all the fun out of room at twenty paces.

Caillou · 15/09/2018 15:45

Helen does would like my sister in law (though she can't be as different countries)

These jokes are hilarious, saving them so dd1 can share them with my Helen at Christmas 😂

RhubarbAndCustards · 15/09/2018 15:46

DD 7 only knows the interrupting cow joke so I’ve been desperate for her to learn another! She thinks this is hilarious.

Helen needs to get a grip Hmm

PedroLostHisGlasses · 15/09/2018 15:46

Helen sounds ridiculous. If my kids told that joke to my cousins, they would find it hilarious.

In fact their dad (my uncle) taught me the joke where you curl your fingers and put your hand flat on top, then ask someone to "lift the lid. put your finger in. swirl it round and round. lick your finger... THANK YOU FOR CLEANING MY TOILET!" and then when I grew up and had kids, he taught it to my kids too Grin

BeardedMum · 15/09/2018 15:50

Helen is being ridiculious. Please don’t ask your ds1 to write the apology letter unless as somone else said he writes the joke down and sends it. Just becaude you tell a toilet humour joke at 7, doesn’t mean you will tell it at 37 in the boardroom.....

User9870 · 15/09/2018 15:53

That's my children's fave joke and have told it to everyone they meet.... Even my 80 year old nan laughed at it

SteveMcGarrettsBudgieSmugglers · 15/09/2018 15:54

Helen is constipated

Christmas gift for Helen

Onthebrink87 · 15/09/2018 16:00

I'd teach her kids pull my finger