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Aibu to think she's the one who should apologize?

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TheExamStartsNow · 15/09/2018 11:46

This is so weird, I need some unbiased opinions.

We were at a family gathering yesterday. I was inside helping the host (my husband's aunt) with food prep, my husband was superving our two children (aged 4 and 7) in the garden, there were other various relatives milling about between the kitchen, garden, and living room.

Husband's cousin, Helen, arrives with her 2 kids, but goes straight in to garden with them. As I'm preparing stuff, I'm half looking out the window at the kids all playing. After a few minutes, I'm aware that my husband and Helen's body language looks like they're having an argument - she looks furious, he is pulling an "Are you serious?!" type face and then walks away from her. She follows after pointing at him and saying something, he sort of waves her off over his shoulder and goes in to the living room. She walks off crying and goes to her car. My husband went back to supervising the 4 kids. I went out to get the gossip help him.

He said "ive just had a row with Helen. DS1 told her his joke, she went mad..."

I'll interject here, and explain my 7 year old has learnt this annoying joke from a tv show he watches:

Knock knock
Who's there?
Ididap
Ididap who?
Ha! You said "I did a poo!"

Juvenile, yes. I certainly don't encourage toilet humour, but it doesn't seem that unusual for boys his age either IME. A simple "That's not appropriate" is adequate.

However, Helen was deeply offended by this. She said to my 7 year old "what kind of school do you go to that they teach you to be so rude?! That's the way to never get a job when you're older, talking that way!"

My husband replied "you're overreacting, and my kids are 4 and 7, so I don't think you need to worry about their job prospects just yet."

7 year old then asked to tell her another joke. She replied "I don't want to hear anything else from you until you apologise to me." I doubt ds1 really understood what he was apologising for, but immediately said sorry and then asked if he could tell her another joke. She crossly replied "I don't want to hear anything from you, your dad should be telling you off!"

Husband then started to walk away. She came after him saying "you ought to tell him off for being rude, I thought you were raising him better..."

Husband, losing patience, said "wind your neck in and stop following me. He's apologised, you need to let it go. Thats the end of it"

She then stormed off to cry in her car.
She eventually came back in wearing huge sunglasses and proceeded to ignore everyone for the rest of the party. I tried saying hello to her, as this was the first I'd actually seen her, and she blanked me. So I said louder "hello helen" and she grunted "hi" and walked off. When we came to say bye to everyone, she again said nothing.

I have rationalized this as being such an overreaction from her that she must have something else going on in her life that has made her snap over something so trivial. So I'm therefore being patient/understanding. However, I do think she has crossed a line by saying things about my childrens' schooling and future chances of employment?! It's such a ludicrous thing for her to say, but she said it directly to my 7 year old which I think is much ruder than the original joke. For context, she has always made snide digs about their school. Things like pointing out her kid's school is rated Ofsted outstanding, and ours is only good (still not sure why she felt the need to look up our rating?!) she is quite a competitive person though, and definitely likes to feel her kid's have/do better than everyone else's. So this comment about their school felt like a personal dig rather than an off the cuff comment.

My 7 year old has already forgotten it. I'm not angry, just baffled.

Unfortunately, in this side of the family, whoever cries or acts the most offended is the one who is owed an apology. Uncle has suggested ds1 should properly apologise, maybe in a letter, and said that toilet humour is a big no-no in their house. Ds1 was nonplussed but a bit baffled and asked "but why? It's just poo. We all do it"

I'm kind thinking she should be apologising for overreacting though. He was a bit rude, but she was ruder. She may have other stuff going on, I don't know, but I can honestly say I've had a pretty life changing year in terms of shit stuff, and I've never taken it out on anyone else, especially a 7 year old!

Aibu?

OP posts:
rubyroot · 15/09/2018 13:09

Thats my fave joke and I'm late 30s. Nothing inappropriate about it at all- hes 7 fgs

Allthewaves · 15/09/2018 13:11

Mwhaha she'd love mine. When having a meltdown they swear like sailors

themuttsnutts · 15/09/2018 13:12

She'd love my 9 yr old. He even makes Alexa fart

Whatsthispain · 15/09/2018 13:16

She might have felt humiliated and the butt of the joke?

Grin
Blatherskite · 15/09/2018 13:16

I told both ididap and europe versions to my 8 year old DD. She loved them Grin

Helen is deranged

Iloveacurry · 15/09/2018 13:20

Ignore her. She totally overreacted.

TheExamStartsNow · 15/09/2018 13:20

@happinessischocolate I'm pretty sure it would've been the interrupting cow joke next. I'm familiar with his repertoire.

We are due to have another family get together this week so we will see what happens.

OP posts:
calamariqueen · 15/09/2018 13:21

I think @Hawkmoth has nailed it Grin Helen sounds totally deranged.

PourMeAnotherOne · 15/09/2018 13:21

Helen is a silly cow!

5SecondsFromWilding · 15/09/2018 13:23

I would never have allowed my children to say that to an Aunt without pulling them up on it.

OP's child shared something they thought was funny with a nearby adult. The subject of said funny thing wasn't an offensive topic, nor was it personal or malicious. The fact that the chosen adult happens to be an uptight arse isn't something that warrants an apology from the child. I'd be using it as a lesson for the DS that grown ups aren't always right, nor are they always reasonable or well behaved.

poobumwee · 15/09/2018 13:29

I love that your husband stuck up for you son. Good on him.

Honeyroar · 15/09/2018 13:29

Honestly! She sounds like a seven year old herself, you'd think she'd have liked the joke!

Seriously, she should have just said "ooh I don't like that joke, can you tell me a nicer one" and moved past it.

I can't believe your uncle and family got involved. I'd have told them that. If anyone needed to apologise it was her, for creating, and continuing, a drama out of nothing and ruining everyone's party - and if she doesn't get over herself she will ruin all future family meet ups with her sulking.

Undercoverbanana · 15/09/2018 13:29

Blimey. Helen must spend her entire life offended and crying. What a very dull life. She’s probably never done a poo.

Pringlesaddict · 15/09/2018 13:29

It's a shit joke Wink but can't expect more form a 7 year old of any sex and she should really calm the fuck down. Nothing going on in your life can be so bad that a knock knock joke from a 7 year old sends you over the edge.

Pringlesaddict · 15/09/2018 13:30

elen must spend her entire life offended and crying. What a very dull life. She’s probably never done a poo.

Probably why she's so grumpy

gottastopeatingchocolate · 15/09/2018 13:30

OP, I think you and DH handled it just fine and I would not entertain any further conversation about it.

While Helen should be sorry for speaking to a child that way, she won't, so any apology will be insincere and not worth the energy it will take you to achieve. I'd let it go.

I suspect this will not be the last issue you have with Helen. Pick your battles.

And thanks to PP for the Europe joke! DD6 will enjoy that. I momentarily felt bad that I laugh with her about the Ididap joke, but glad I am in company here!

Mumtothelittlefella · 15/09/2018 13:31

Please buy Helen Cards Against Humanity for Christmas 😆

Just told my 7 yr old and 5 yr old the joke, they found it hilarious. My side of the family wouldn’t appreciate it but if they were told it by my DC would just roll their eyes and accept that kids find these jokes the best. No reason in the World to be offended by it.

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 15/09/2018 13:32

She’s off her noggin! I’m not a fan of toilet humour myself but kids go through a phase of it and think it’s the funniest thing ever - it’s harmless!

Unlike the horrible things she said to your DS and DH, which were truly offensive. If anyone should be writing an apology it’s her, presuming that someone who overreacts so badly should be allowed access to pointy things like pens and pencils.

Honeyroar · 15/09/2018 13:32

Ive just seen youve another get together this weekend, I bet you can't wait!

RB68 · 15/09/2018 13:33

Just buy her kids gross books for christmas

feedmecoffee · 15/09/2018 13:35

Think Helen needs a grip and a sense of humour... we tell the same joke but needap not ididap 😂 finishes with well go to the toilet then... haha only apology I'd be writing would be sorry to her kids that she's got no sense of humour hahaha boring old biddy 🙈

bastardkitty · 15/09/2018 13:36

Loving the Cards Against Humanity suggestion. Honestly though, the best thing is to just send Helen a link to this thread.

Maelstrop · 15/09/2018 13:38

Deranged, as is uncle who suggested a written apology! From a 7 year old who told a 7 year old joke and has already apologised, bonkers!

Oldraver · 15/09/2018 13:39

The only person who should be apologising is Helen, for her ridiculous berating of your DS.. Who talks to a seven year old like that ?

Bowerbird5 · 15/09/2018 13:46

While training as a Nursery Nurse it part of the stages of development for children of 7/8 to learn and understand jokes ... tell her that!

One of my boys used to roll about the floor laughing at jokes like this with their mates. My DS has had a job in management since he was 26 he was one of if not the youngest in the country at the time to have this role. One of his mates is now a GP so tell him not to worry about his prospects for future employment. What a thing to say to a child.
I might be inclined to drop her a note to say your child is worrying about this now and that she ruined a lovely family event. You could add that DS is sorry and he had apologised at the time and you have explained to him not to tell her any more jokes as you've explained to him that some people have no sense of humour or understanding about the development of seven year olds.
I would also be a bit naughty and buy her child a book of jokes for Christmas making sure there are a couple of rude ones/ toilet humour hidden in there. Just for his stage of development of course.😄😁

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