To wonder why you would say 'No' to student doctors/nurses helping/observing your care?

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DD has been quite poorly in hospital with bronchiolitis. She's on the mend now and We can go home today.
Since we've been in hospital the care has been fantastic were so so appreciative of the nhs.
We've been asked alot if junior doctors and student nurses can help and observe our daughters care and obviously have said yes. 4 doctors checked her over for discharge today and while it took longer it was 4 sets of ears and eyes ensuring all was ok all overseen by a qualified doctor.
DH got talking to a nurse and she said alot of people do refuse to let them in.
AIBU to wonder why anyone would decline as those are our future doctors and nurses and they will never learn if they can't see and do ALL of the illnesses and problems that they will have to deal with. You can only learn so much from a book.

Sometimes there isn’t the option of a same sex practitioner, doesn’t mean women shouldn’t only allow same-sex students to observe/assist because of this

Tessabelle1 if someone can't have a sane sex practitioner at a certain time then they may choose to wait or ask for a chaperone. Having students present is unlikely to make the patient feel better.

same not sane.

Tessa it would depend on what it was.
There's always the right to have a chaperone. I've been offered one with a female GP too.
So for a really crucial examination, I'd ask for a chaperone.
For a smear, I'd probably ask to rebook.

I have always agreed to students attending when asked, but appreciate the choice to say no. I had at least 1 student nurse and 1 trainee midwife when I had DD - I had some complications and had a room full anyway, 2 more didn’t make a difference!

I have 2 rare conditions and actually volunteered to talk to medical students through my GP’s surgery. It went very well and I am planning on doing more sessions. I appreciate that’s not quite the same as being in a hospital bed with my bits hanging out though! If any MNers have any chronic or unusual conditions I would recommend speaking to your GP or specialist about doing the same - it is very valuable to the student, and also a good way to raise respect for ‘expert patients’.

I've refused, five of them, yes five of them, lined up to watch me get an internal when I was having my daughter, i was having complications, and I was not asked permission.

I was not in the best state emotionally and asked them angrily if they didn't have anything better to do with their time, called them a bunch of perverts, and told them to leave. The consultant apologised profusely as they left, that he should have asked permission, he was quite panicked by it.

And as much as I regret calling them a bunch of perverts, I'd refuse it again in a heartbeat, no one wants to see five blokes steam into your room, when you've got your knees dropped apart and about to get an internal. No one.

A slightly different perspective, but as a recent radiography student and now a trainee mammographer, I do need to ask for consent every single time I work with a patient.

I always give the choice, and I do respect and appreciate if a more experienced radiographer is preferred. But thank you to everyone who agreed to being a 'guinea pig' because I'm learning and becoming more proficient.

My work is always overseen and supervised, so the patient is always receiving the same level of care, I'm just a bit slower and very careful.

Sharptic my first eve mammogram had me in tears. The second was better. I wonder if you see this reaction often.

(Me in tears is not rare but for something like this it seemed a strong reaction even for me!)

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I have never refused having them there. I have refused allowing a student (qualified but in last stages of training) to take my blood test.

No way is anyone practicing on me with a needle - I am very difficult to get a blood test out of - even very experienced phlebotomists have had to give up and give me a return appointment.

I had a student midwife when I had DD, she was wonderful, very respectful and grateful that I had agreed. She helped me enormously post birth and as we chatted, she said about 50% of women refused. She was completely understanding as to why but thrilled she had been able to be part of my birth.

Last Friday I had some routine injections to manage a chronic neurophysiological issue.

This consists of Botox injections in my neck, had them for years, no drama. Except clinic was running an hour late, (not a problem) I was however long overdue back in work and when I was finally called, it transpired I’d been assigned a ‘trainee’ neurologist (does that even exist?) who wasn’t allowed to inject unsupervised. I was happy to let him have a crack, no problem at all - but not to have to wait another 30mins whilst he found a supervisor. That gave me the

My first vaginal exam at around 18 (period related)...gah. i hadnt waxed the ole fanjola in weeks and they asked if i minded have a student nurse/junior could be present. I agreed even though i was embarrassed about bush....then 7 ladies walked in.
Well i died in embarrassment but im glad i didnt say no.
I also said yes to junior doc and student nurse during my almost c section then eventual forceps birth.
I dont think ill ever say no. No matter how embarrassing or anxiety inducing. Purely because the professional is present so its no difference having another set of eyes.

Italian, it's not a reaction I've seen regularly, while in the room. I've seen it when someone is feeling emotional due to a previous cancer or a family cancer.

Was it due to the pain from the compression? I have seen patients wince, but if I see they're in pain, I'll keep compression to a minimum, it can make the image blurred amongst other things if there's not much compression, so it can be a compromise.

I have done

About eight student doctors observed at intervals while i was in labour one was asked to assist doing something can’t remember what and I remember he looked terrified

I am lucky not to have any ongoing health issues that needs regular appointments or examinations I can totally understand why people get fed up

There can be many reasons why people say no they shouldn’t be judged

I've never said no, but there was one occasion where I belatedly realised the person in the room was a work experience student, not a medical student.

Considering it was for a transvaginal scan, I did feel a bit weird about it when I realised. It's one thing for someone to be a student committed to medicine, but another for them to be a sixth form college student.