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AIBU to take his family's dirty money? **Sensitive thread about child abuse - title edited by MNHQ**

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devastatedanon · 07/09/2018 23:17

NC for reasons that will become very obvious. Identifying details removed. There are things I have had to leave out so please forgive me for not filling in some of the blanks.

I have been married for 11 years. Two kids and I'm six months pregnant with our much wanted third baby. Good job, nice house, adoring man.

It was all a lie. You are the first people I've told and even writing this out anonymously makes me want to vomit.

Three months ago the man I married (I can't call him DH or even husband) was arrested for viewing and storing child abuse images. We aren't talking about a few questionable pictures, ones he could argue he thought they were of age. Babies. Toddlers. Thousands of pictures and film clips. After the usual pathetic attempts at lying, he confessed and I've been told that due to the severity and amount, he is going away for a very long time.

Good.

As soon as he confessed, every feeling, every good memory I had of us as a family died. He became less than nothing to me. (I am seeing a therapist by the way, so are the kids, she is helping me cope with this boiling, violent rage I feel every time I think of his face)

I never want to see him again. Ever. He has been contacting me to beg for an hour of my time to "explain". As if there is anything he could say to explain away this horror, to minimise the fact he was an active participant in destroying the lives of those poor children. As if there is anything he could say to soften the fact he has destroyed my life, our babies lives.

He says he just wants an hour and then I can walk away but I "owe him this small thing".

I hope everyone will agree I ANBU when I say I can't/won't see him. I can't guarantee what I'd do. I can't and I won't and the idea I owe him ANYTHING is disgusting and repulsive.

Here's the AIBU. I dont have much family and nobody local, so his family have always been a big part of our lives. His parents are religious and have decided to love the sinner, hate the sin.

(I can't express how that makes me feel. I don't have the words for my anger and disgust)

They agree I owe him an hour and are haranguing me about it. You can imagine their arguments - it was "only" pictures, I need closure, we need to agree what to tell the children, I am being hormonal, I am selfish etc etc...

For the record, there stopped being a "we" the very second he admitted to his crimes. That's my closure and I will tell my children what I want (no idea what yet, one for the therapist to help me with).

I want to cut them out too. They disgust me now. I can't bear the idea of people who support that man being around my little ones. But... I lost my job and the house will go back to the bank soon. They have said they will give me the money he was due to inherit if I meet him. He won't need it where he is going. I need to feed my kids and more than ever, I need to keep them safe.

Part of me thinks the right thing to do for my kids would be to see him, get through an hour and take their money. Isn't that what a good mother would do? Grit my teeth and bear it for the chance to provide for my children? Is it selfish to refuse, when I know the impact it will have on my kids? It's dirty money but dirty money buys food and clothes just as good as clean money and I would rather die than ever let the kids know how I got it.

I don't know what to do. If I do it, I can provide for my babies who are so innocent and don't deserve any more pain.

Also, if I don't do it, the kids won't see their grandparents or extended family again. Right now I don't want them to be near those people but it should be MY CHOICE. Not another punishment for the kids.

I don't know what to do. I'm crying again but I cry all the time now. I can't talk to anyone about this in RL and my best friends have ghosted me since the news came out. I'm alone and scared of making the wrong choice.

I was going to ask, what should I do but I think we are past moral judgements. So my question is, what would you do? What price would you pay? I don't even care about my own mental health at this stage, that ship has sailed but it's like I physically cannot be in a room with him.

Thanks for reading, I'll answer any questions I can but if I can't, I'll say so and I hope you understand why.

OP posts:
MyOtherProfile · 10/09/2018 20:24

Brilliant. Well done. I hope they come up with the cash for the sake of their grandchildren.

auntyflonono · 10/09/2018 20:27

It might be easiest to go back to your maiden name as you already have your birth certificate. To change the children's surname you may need his signature, your solicitor will know. A new surname name and a new area might be enough to distance from him and his parents.

Cantchooseaname · 10/09/2018 20:32

Sounds like an excellent plan.
You are so right- you need a safe place to call home. Warm, dry, safe.
Food on the table.
Each other. Love.
The trappings of your previous life are not what make you happy.
You are doing an amazing job. Chin up.

ToeToToe · 10/09/2018 20:32

You can change the children's surname with schools/nurseries, doctors etc 'unofficially' for now - call it their 'known by' name.

You will need his agreement to change it by deed poll - but if he kicks up a fuss about this, you will need a court order to change it.

A judge will likely agree with you - as you're the primary carer and will want your dc to have the same name as you - and he's done what he's done - but it's a lot easier if you can say they are already using and 'known by' your maiden name, and have been using it for x amount of time.

(Again, something my friend through).

ToeToToe · 10/09/2018 20:33

(my friend went through)

devastatedanon · 10/09/2018 20:37

@DistanceCall we all got ice cream :)

@subspace I thought that so the agreement my friend drew up specifies a bank transfer which can't be undone, I believe there are other ways of payment which can be? Not an expert though. I'll be taking it straight out either way.

@JesusInTheCabbageVan - might be having a blonde moment but I can't see that post?

@ToeToToe - good point. I am not a legal person at all and this has opened up a whole new world for me. It's not common sense that he can't see them, it's got to be legally binding. Another example of my naivity.

And thank you to everyone for the support - I feel that, whatever the outcome, I've made a decision I can live by, ethically. There is no greed or profit and things will be hard but I feel at peace for the first time in months. I've done my best and if it doesn't happen, I'll carry on doing my best. I somehow thought money would make this less hard and I have realised that even if I was a millionaire, it would still be so hard and painful.

Now I'm putting my phone away to stop me checking my online banking every five minutes. Fingers crossed please!

OP posts:
Dairymilkmuncher · 10/09/2018 20:42

Just came on to say hello and I've got my fingers crossed for you everything goes to plan. A brilliant plan.

Also to mention that any money they give you or your kids, don't see it as dirty money but as you taking money away from him. He will get out of prison only too soon and the less money he has the better.

Wish you and your kids the very best life from here forwards ThanksWine

JamPasty · 10/09/2018 20:44

You incredible woman! Fingers crossed for you!

ToeToToe · 10/09/2018 20:47

Oh, one last thing - if you do end up doing this phone call, take it on the landline and record it on your phone x

Ameliarose16 · 10/09/2018 20:48

You sound so strong.well done. Xxxx

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 10/09/2018 20:48

anon not surprised, there's tons and tons to wade through!

It was about using the contact to ask questions that your DC may have in future, to help them come to terms with it and move on. Sorry, I can't remember them now, but there were some good suggestions. My tablet is running really slow now but maybe someone can scroll back to and cut and paste?

Korvalscat · 10/09/2018 20:53

I have only read the first page and this page of the thread and I am so glad I read your updates OP. I was trying to organise my thoughts to see if I could work out what I would do in your position but I was going round in circles, mostly trying to get over the rage induced by him and his family saying you owe him - you do not and will not ever owe him a single fucking thing, what he and his dispicable parents owe you is beyond their ability to pay.
You are amazing and I wish you all the good luck in the world for the future.

TinyTickler · 10/09/2018 20:55

Id meet him. Don't let his crime destroy your kids future, or even make the now more difficult than it needs to be.

I'm so sorry youre going through this. X

Raspberry10 · 10/09/2018 21:10

You are an amazing person! Wishing you a wonderful new life.

Eddie16 · 10/09/2018 21:21

You are doing so well op, I couldn't do half of what you've done without breaking down and giving into the incessant demands of his parents just for a quiet life and letting it eat me.
There will be blips later on down the road but please remember that you are a strong confident woman who can do anything and win!
I wish you all the luck in the world,you rock 👍👏🏆

NewUserNameTime · 10/09/2018 21:25

Good rescission OP, you sound so amazing and together! Wishing you and your kids all the best 🍀🌸

wictional · 10/09/2018 21:36

You are AMAZING OP! Doing a ‘go you’ dance by myself on the sofa Grin

BeekyChitch · 10/09/2018 21:51

Agree to meet him as long as cash is paid first. Don’t meet him. What a vile family. Regardless of whether you meet him or not they should give you the money they are offering for their grandchildren.

BeekyChitch · 10/09/2018 21:55

I didn’t realise you made a decision. You are so brave - hope it all goes well!

PreseaCombatir · 10/09/2018 21:56

Amazing OP, really! You’re being really courageous, your dignity is worth far far more than any of their money

Justanothernameonthepage · 10/09/2018 21:56

You are doing great. So glad you're finding a way to move forward with your life

Quantumblue · 10/09/2018 22:14

Well done OP for taking such a great decision. Your children have an amazing mother.

Lizzie48 · 10/09/2018 22:23

You've handled this so well, OP, it's good that you're keeping your distance from these people. Thanks

Lizzie48 · 10/09/2018 22:24

And you're an amazing role model for your DC as well. ThanksThanks

GhostPerfume · 10/09/2018 22:33

well dne

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