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AIBU to ask new husband to contribute to child related costs for children that are not his?

493 replies

Clockworkteacup · 03/09/2018 12:53

Just that really. Married last year. Four children now aged 8, 9, 11, 13 from first marriage. Ex husband pays too little maintenance - £100 per month as is self employed.

For context, we both earn good money, although he earns very good money at 50% more than me. I was able to support the children without him before with no tax credits etc but it was a struggle as was paying out a lot of childcare and big mortgage. But I was fortunate to be able to own our own home, pay the bills etc, even though not much left over. This isn't about being 'poor' and I recognise how lucky I am to be able to rely just on my own income.

AIBU to expect him to pay any of the child related costs? What do you think is a fair way to split the bills?

At the moment I am paying for half of what 'we' cost and all of what the children cost. So I pay around two thirds of our house related outgoings e.g. mortgage etc as need a house for five. I also then pay for all childcare (at £800 a month), all their clothes uniform, their lunches, trips, birthday presents and so on. He does split big costs like holidays and meals out 50-50.

This means I am ending up watching the pennies at the end of the month whilst he has around £2500 more than me after house stuff is paid. He drives a new car whilst I drive one that is 12 years old. I was triggered to write this by him complaining about not being able to afford something very expensive (and nice but certainly not a necessary cost) whilst I am worrying this month about the bills.

But they are not his children.

And their father evades paying much for them.

And we both saved about a similar amount by him moving in, in terms of housing costs (mortgage, utilities, council tax).

Backstory - I have major money issues through paying for everything for cocklodger ex husband and have a father who didn't work, and a brother who seems to live off high earning women so am skewed (and anxious) around men and money.

OP posts:
Knittedfairies · 03/09/2018 12:56

They are not his children, so I think you are being unreasonable.

PersianCatLady · 03/09/2018 12:56

I am really looking forward to seeing the replies for this post.

PersianCatLady · 03/09/2018 12:57

Forgot to add - Why didn't you discuss all of this before you got married?

WheresTheEvidence · 03/09/2018 12:57

Marries last year and you atill havent had the conversation...

YABU

TwistedStitch · 03/09/2018 12:59

What is the point in a marriage if you are scrambling for pennies and he has £2500 spare cash? He has SAVED money by moving in with you, but you are no better off.

HerondaleDucks · 03/09/2018 12:59

Very interested to see what's said here as a resident step parent.

SisterMortificado · 03/09/2018 13:00

I don't even know where to start.
He should absolutely be contributing. Are you not equal partners in life? Is he not a step-father? Why has he not stepped up already?
What the fuck, OP.

DH is DD's stepdad. We are a team, and we pay for her.

dementedpixie · 03/09/2018 13:00

They are a family unit and he should not have thousands left at the end of the month when OP has nothing. Can you not pool money in a joint account and everything be paid out of there?

DeloresJaneUmbridge · 03/09/2018 13:00

No YANBU

He has married you knowing you have children. Whether these are his children or not is immaterial, you come as a package.

For reference my own father paid little to nothing when we were growing up. My step father sometimes worked two jobs to put food on the table and keep a roof over our heads,

He’s your husband, you have four children and of course he should contribute to the costs of the house, those costs include the needs of four children with a feckless father. He needs to be the better person and step in to ensure they are cared for if money is tight for you.

Aprilshowersnowastorm · 03/09/2018 13:00

As far as tax credits etc are concerned, once married your dh is responsible for your dc also.
I appreciate you aren't claiming but just saying that's their theory.
I was also married but not living together and could not claim as again, dh was responsible for the dc - not his.
As your dh he has to assume some responsibility financially for his family, biologically or not.
Imo.

Wait4nothing · 03/09/2018 13:00

I don’t think you should ask him to contribute to children directly but maybe make it more fair by splitting bills unrelated to children according to earnings - you’ll still have less but it shouldn’t be as uneven. He contributes more because he earns more (this is the norm in most families sharing income)

FarrahMoan · 03/09/2018 13:01

I'm really shocked at this. My DH works to support our 3 children whilst I'm a SAHP, his SDS (my DS) is treated exactly the same as the other two. ExH also only pays £100.
The difference is DS was only a toddler when we got together.
I wonder if lots of people will be along to say he's not responsible for your DC? But the idea that he hasn't offered is shocking to me

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 03/09/2018 13:01

On the fence but erring on the side of yabu.

harshbuttrue1980 · 03/09/2018 13:01

Of course you have less money than him at the end of the month - you have chosen to have children, and he hasn't! I think your current setup is perfectly fair. He shouldn't have to suffer just because the kids' father is a manchild.

welshmist · 03/09/2018 13:02

I think you are trying to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted. He took you on with four children at late ages, we are not talking about littleuns here. Your ex. is taking the mickey at £25 a week. What line is he self employed in???

dementedpixie · 03/09/2018 13:02

I can't believe you pay 2/3rds of the mortgage too

NonaGrey · 03/09/2018 13:02

You didn’t discuss finances before getting married?

HollyBollyBooBoo · 03/09/2018 13:02

Interesting, single parent here and I'm not sure as I'd feel comfortable asking for a contribution to DD.

No help at all but I'm gobsmacked you didn't have this conversation prior to getting married!

Mrskeats · 03/09/2018 13:02

My dh pays towards the rent for my daughter at uni. He moved into a house I own so I we think thats fair.
He would not see me short whilst he had loads spare.

Scrumptiousbears · 03/09/2018 13:02

Maybe flip it. What if they were his kids and the mother only paid £100 a month. Would you be happy to pay half?

Personally I'd say not his responsibility and I would not expect it if I were in your shoes, however maybe I'd suggest the joint outgoings are split by % of salary rather than half.

faeriequeen · 03/09/2018 13:02

What does he suggest?

Havaina · 03/09/2018 13:03

Who does the house belong to? Is his name on the mortgage/deeds?

Who gets the house if you split up?

Who buys the food?

How much is your council tax? How much does he pay out of it?

Does he do any activities with the children? Who pays for those?

(Sorry for all the questions, think we need more info).

Aprilshowersnowastorm · 03/09/2018 13:03

If your dc were say, a holiday home that you owned before you married, presumably he would enjoy sharing that and it's upkeep would he not?

trilbydoll · 03/09/2018 13:03

I don't think a straight 50/50 is fair but it appears he could easily spare you £500 a month which wouldn't affect him much but would make a big difference to you?

dementedpixie · 03/09/2018 13:03

They are married so the money should be family money, not his and hers

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