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Partner doesn't find me attractive - how to deal with this? AIBU?

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Nerolily · 02/09/2018 18:23

I am six months pregnant and I've put on a bit more weight than I would have liked over the last six months. I've gone from a size 10/11 to a size 12/13 and obviously I have a decent sized bump to go with that too. I'm only 5ft4 so being almost 11 stone now doesn't look great on me.

My partner seems to love me but I don't think he finds me attractive at all. He has a very (media influenced?) idea of what's attractive in a woman: very slim, very fit, very young and very pert. Basically an ideal that's really hard to live up to.

He's no spring chicken himself. Late 40s, and is a bit overweight. I'm in my early 40's and currently also a bit overweight. I wasn't when I met him, I was 9 stone.

This would all be ok except for four things:

1 He often comments how unattractive women are who look like me or perhaps even a bit slimmer or younger than me, he even says 'ugh' at them. We see a topless sunbather on the beach who isn't totally slim but more pert than I am right now and comments things like 'I don’t think she should be topless. It would be ok if she was 19'. He used to talk all the time about how attractive very young women in their late teens or early 20s are (this was until I said how upsetting it was) he still makes comments about older (say over 30) or fatter (say size 12/14+) women being unattractive, and says how attractive much younger (less than 20) and much slimmer (size 8 or less) women are.

2 He loves to cook, he loves to eat, he loves me to eat what he cooks, he needs my approval for the things he cooks, it's a way he shows love and he has a vast appetite and expects me to match it. His entire day revolves around what he's cooking for dinner or lunch. He wants to impress me with his cooking and loves to cook big meals for us and our children. He gives me portions that are the same size as his, he weighs 1.5 times as much as I do and is 6ft.

3 He has stopped complimenting my physical appearance utterly and completely since I started putting on weight (a few months into our relationship) he continues to say zero complimentary about my appearance as I grow steadily more pregnant. Nothing, not one word. Nothing positive springs to his mind about how I look whatsoever. He used to compliment me when we first met.

4 His ex wife is a size 6-8 and has the body of a teenager. Very fit, very toned. She's older than me and frankly looks incredible. They were together for 15 years, clearly her metabolism could cope with the overfeeding and when he complimented teenagers in the street in front of her, she probably felt 'well I look like them too so no problem'.

It is eating away at me that he doesn't find me attractive. It's a fundamental female need as far as I'm concerned, that your partner communicates to you that he finds you attractive. Not only is there nothing forthcoming in that direction, I get a clear picture from his comments on other women about what he does find attractive. I don't feel our relationship has much long term potential at all if he loves me like a sister but doesn't find me attractive. I'm projecting a little in that sentence, but it's how he makes me feel. I have spoken to him about it a couple of times, and he apologises but nothing changes. I wish I was with someone who just found me attractive. I don't think I look too bad at all but he makes me feel so ugly and self conscious. I have been desperate to lose weight while pregnant but feel faint when I don't eat enough. I have asked him to stop cooking so much for me but he just gets offended. I don't know how to deal with it. It's breaking my heart.

OP posts:
tolerable · 11/09/2018 20:14

oops..clumsy as ever-i wasnt finished. ..sorry.
..it doesnt equate to being a sexual predator of children ,nor require the going after her dd presumption. I didnt say i approved or found his comments acceptable. I objected at the advice and\or attack directed at op based on assumptions. which as werent derived from facts were pretty brutal. @TheDowagerCuntess - thats me done now ok.

PookieDo · 11/09/2018 20:45

i Never said he was a predator. He’s clearly got a fetish/strong preference for this sexually. Therefore OP was given advice from many on possibly protecting herself and her daughter(s) from this, as it could be potentially damaging for young girls/women to hear this or see him ‘in action’ making disparaging comments or expressing his strong sexual preferences/attractions

I don’t like it - he’s nearly 50. The concept of my size 6 legal teenager being ogled by an overweight 50yo man with a pregnant girlfriend? Not nice.

Bluntness100 · 11/09/2018 20:53

People were warning her to think of her daughter due to his sexual preferences, which she was telling us right now didn't run to her. He likes women to be small thin and below the age of twenty, that's what she told us, he likes women who look like teenagers.

And yes I don't like the idea of some paunchy fifty year old bloke sexually ogling my daughter and making comments to the op about her body. And every single teenage girl he pervs on is someone's daughter.

Why not the ops?

Tistheseason17 · 11/09/2018 20:56

It's like the OP's OH read this chain and then posted on OP's behalf.

PPs have posted based on info provided by OP. What else can they do...? 🤔

TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 11/09/2018 21:08

It sounds as though there are two different people being the op?

Tistheseason17 · 11/09/2018 21:16

@TakemedowntoPotatoCity - exactly.

Bluntness100 · 11/09/2018 22:34

It did get very weird to be fair, with the whole he's a wonderful man, its all good now and the bizzare love language nonsense.

Lizzie48 · 11/09/2018 22:53

I quite agree, @Bluntness100 but I don't think the OP will be back. It's hard to understand how she could be so obtuse as to not understand why her DH's behaviour is creepy.

lowtide · 11/09/2018 22:54

I got the feeling it was the DH coming back in the end. Or at least telling her what to write. I mean I might be totally wrong. But it’s a bit odd.

SoleBizzz · 11/09/2018 22:58

Omfg he is not normal.. ugh god.. fucking vile sexist pig
Ruuuuuuuuuuun

Bluntness100 · 11/09/2018 23:05

I think she does understand to be honest, she might not wish to admit, but she knows.

No woman with a daughter doesn't understand. No woman doesn't understand full stop.

TheDowagerCuntess · 12/09/2018 01:42

It did get very weird to be fair, with the whole he's a wonderful man, its all good now and the bizzare love language nonsense.

To be fair, that's the script for these threads.

OP comes on to see whether her partner's behaviour is unreasonable - if it is, people come on to say so (often many people, what with this being a public forum)...

...and then suddenly the OP is back-tracking like there's no tomorrow, 'oh, he's a lovely guy really, I haven't painted him fairly, he does X, Y, Z [insert random stuff that any normal person does in a mutually respectful relationship], don't be so mean to him - I'm allowed to bad-mouth him, but you fuckers definitely are not!'

Poof - OP disappears from thread, never to be seen again.

I give you the love language nonsense, though - that was something else...

eggncress · 12/09/2018 07:44

It sounds like emotional / psychological abuse and he’s very likely doing it on purpose

As for the food portions, scrape half into the bin and let him see you doing it. Take back some control. At least that way he’s not controlling how much you eat.
He’s feeding you up to keep you “on the large side “ as he sees. He gets to keep you feeling insecure and crap while he leers at younger, slimmer women.Its a power / control thing and it makes him feel good.
He sounds vile. Someone who loves you wouldn’t do that to you.
What do you get out of being with him?
I wasted too many years with a psychological abuser. I made excuses for him. They don’t change. Get out now ! Flowers

eggncress · 12/09/2018 08:00

Having read the last post (supposedly from the OP.... but obviously not! It’s from the old pervy paunchy husband Grin)

Motoko · 12/09/2018 08:18

Admittedly, it was originally another poster who mentioned the love language thing first, but OP jumped on it like it was a lifeline. I got the feeling that she didn't like being told he was using the food business as a form of abuse, so when the pp mentioned love languages, it became an excellent excuse for why he was doing it, and she ran with it, rather than accept the reality of the situation.

Until abused women see the light, they do make excuses for their partners, because it's hard to accept that the person you love, and who is supposed to love you, would deliberately try to hurt you. It becomes "Huh, typical men" and you just accept it, because no-one's perfect, and you need to work at relationships, and he's such a good dad, and he does take the bins out and .

I just hope that it doesn't take her too long to have her lightbulb moment. Perhaps this thread will set that process off, it will stay in her head, and maybe she'll start to see the things he says and does in a different light.

AynRandTheObjectivist · 12/09/2018 08:47

She's had her lightbulb moment. She wouldn't have posted this thread if she hadn't. But having seen what it showed, she's switched it off and drawn the curtains.

MarthasGinYard · 12/09/2018 08:54

His 'ex wife with the body of a teenager' left me with the chills. 'Size '6-8'' do people actually notice this so intentlyConfused

Think they sound quite suited personally.

'Wonderful partner' is back in 'complementing' mode most likely.

Whilst whipping up a hefty rabbit stew for supper....

Electrascoffee · 12/09/2018 09:01

He sounds really awful. He is leering at girls of 19 young enough to be his daughter? It's utterly pathetic.

eelbecomingforyou · 12/09/2018 09:02

The last post by the OP is written in a completely different style to all her other posts.

Hello, OP's partner Hmm

Hope you've read the thread and taken some of the advice on board. You big old perv. Stop commenting on other women's bodies. Stop over-feeding the OP. Talk to the op and tell her you find her attractive.

Hmm
BabySharkAteMyHamster · 12/09/2018 09:06

Nothing to say other than why oh why do women put up with this shit ?

You know it isnt ok, hell the world knows it isnt ok yet you choose to put your children through it. You choose to give them a fucked up view of society because it's the easy option. You're the adult, my sympathy lies with the kids being dragged into this shit.

Electrascoffee · 12/09/2018 09:15

Op, it's a form of abuse what he's doing. I had a friend whose bf used to encourage her to put weight on so that she wouldn't leave him.

The comments are bad enough. He's trying to make you feel insecure about yourself so that he has the upper hand.

I was dating a man who one day sent me a text saying 'so Hugh Hefner has died, shall we spend the day looking at naked women in his honour?' That signalled the end of the relationship!

JazzAndCat · 12/09/2018 09:28

He does sound awful. OP has asked if other women are complimented regularly by their partners. I hardly ever get compliments on my looks, at least from my partner. I have to remind him to say something nice when I make an effort. He is always surprised by this, because he says he assumes I know how he feels and that I shouldn’t ‘ask’ for compliments. Maybe he has a point and it’s my self esteem that needs to be sorted out, rather than being needy. This isn’t ideal, but I can tolerate it. What I wouldn’t tolerate is a lack of compliments combined with him peering at other women. Sorry OP I do think major changes in your partner’s attitude are needed in order for your self worth to remain intact.

Lizzie48 · 12/09/2018 11:20

My DH doesn't often pay me compliments tbh, though he does if I've had my hair cut. Sometimes it gets to me, because I was slim when we first got together, but I've always been a yo-yo dieter and I'm overweight now. Back then, I asked him if he would be attracted to me if I was overweight and he said, 'I don't like big women.'

On the other hand, he's very loving towards me; he brings me a morning cuppa every day and does buy me flowers occasionally, so I know he loves me. But sometimes I'm not sure whether he actually fancies me.

But one thing he would never do is make lewd comments about teenage girls, it would quite simply not occur to him.

Sunflowerr · 12/09/2018 11:41

A long time ago OP I was in an abusive relationship. On a number of occasions, I started to see how wrong different elements of our relationship were, told someone and asked for advice and then got incredibly defensive when they gave me their advice and used any number of excuses, including listing the good parts of the relationship. I went through this process a few times with different friends and family members before i was ready to accept how shit the relationship was. The reason for this was because I was too scared to accept it and end it.

Your posts remind me of how I was then. And, I do believe that on Mumsnet in general, advice to LTB and writing men off as a lost cause comes too quickly and that often if you favour balance and compassion, understanding and compromise you get accused of being desperate for a relationship and "any man is better than no man" where you're concerned. I find it frustrating and I'm not one of those people, yet still I had a strong reaction to your initial posts.

Good luck with everything.

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