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Partner doesn't find me attractive - how to deal with this? AIBU?

474 replies

Nerolily · 02/09/2018 18:23

I am six months pregnant and I've put on a bit more weight than I would have liked over the last six months. I've gone from a size 10/11 to a size 12/13 and obviously I have a decent sized bump to go with that too. I'm only 5ft4 so being almost 11 stone now doesn't look great on me.

My partner seems to love me but I don't think he finds me attractive at all. He has a very (media influenced?) idea of what's attractive in a woman: very slim, very fit, very young and very pert. Basically an ideal that's really hard to live up to.

He's no spring chicken himself. Late 40s, and is a bit overweight. I'm in my early 40's and currently also a bit overweight. I wasn't when I met him, I was 9 stone.

This would all be ok except for four things:

1 He often comments how unattractive women are who look like me or perhaps even a bit slimmer or younger than me, he even says 'ugh' at them. We see a topless sunbather on the beach who isn't totally slim but more pert than I am right now and comments things like 'I don’t think she should be topless. It would be ok if she was 19'. He used to talk all the time about how attractive very young women in their late teens or early 20s are (this was until I said how upsetting it was) he still makes comments about older (say over 30) or fatter (say size 12/14+) women being unattractive, and says how attractive much younger (less than 20) and much slimmer (size 8 or less) women are.

2 He loves to cook, he loves to eat, he loves me to eat what he cooks, he needs my approval for the things he cooks, it's a way he shows love and he has a vast appetite and expects me to match it. His entire day revolves around what he's cooking for dinner or lunch. He wants to impress me with his cooking and loves to cook big meals for us and our children. He gives me portions that are the same size as his, he weighs 1.5 times as much as I do and is 6ft.

3 He has stopped complimenting my physical appearance utterly and completely since I started putting on weight (a few months into our relationship) he continues to say zero complimentary about my appearance as I grow steadily more pregnant. Nothing, not one word. Nothing positive springs to his mind about how I look whatsoever. He used to compliment me when we first met.

4 His ex wife is a size 6-8 and has the body of a teenager. Very fit, very toned. She's older than me and frankly looks incredible. They were together for 15 years, clearly her metabolism could cope with the overfeeding and when he complimented teenagers in the street in front of her, she probably felt 'well I look like them too so no problem'.

It is eating away at me that he doesn't find me attractive. It's a fundamental female need as far as I'm concerned, that your partner communicates to you that he finds you attractive. Not only is there nothing forthcoming in that direction, I get a clear picture from his comments on other women about what he does find attractive. I don't feel our relationship has much long term potential at all if he loves me like a sister but doesn't find me attractive. I'm projecting a little in that sentence, but it's how he makes me feel. I have spoken to him about it a couple of times, and he apologises but nothing changes. I wish I was with someone who just found me attractive. I don't think I look too bad at all but he makes me feel so ugly and self conscious. I have been desperate to lose weight while pregnant but feel faint when I don't eat enough. I have asked him to stop cooking so much for me but he just gets offended. I don't know how to deal with it. It's breaking my heart.

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 03/09/2018 20:37

Op...how did this guy support himself and his children before you came along ?

Bluntness100 · 03/09/2018 20:38

I also oogle openly at other men..catcalling and saying how hot they are

You cat call men when you're out with your partner? Are they teenagers?

What the actual fuck is this thread.

Reporting. It can't be real. Mnhq need to take a look. It's sickening.

MyLearnedFriend · 03/09/2018 20:44

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sallievp · 03/09/2018 20:46

He sounds disgusting and really creepy.
You deserve so much better than this pervy idiot.

RedPanda2 · 03/09/2018 20:47

MyLearnedFriend nailed it

picklepost · 03/09/2018 21:00

I must admit that i don't find you very attractive either OP. Horribly low standards you have. Oh well I guess there's always room at the bottom of the barrell.

MistressDeeCee · 03/09/2018 21:13

I think a lot of times people jump to LTB but these posts only ever show a small stitch in a much larger tapestry of someone's relationship and I think it's unfair to suggest to leave a partner unless someone is specifically asking if they should

Well Monty you would say that wouldn't you. Your responses on post are very "me me me me" arent they. With just a nod to OP's situation.

Nice ignoring of the existence of OPs teen DD and consequences of middle aged man with an obsession with teen girls brought into her home/life by a mother who's utterly consumed with physical appearance of herself and her man.

Im minded this post could be a wind up to trigger reactions tho. Situation can't be real

Aeroflotgirl · 03/09/2018 21:23

I think deep down op knows everything is right that we are all saying, and i think it's Very close to home for her. That is probably why she is going on the defensive. I think the scales are falling from her eyes but is too scared, plus she is pregnant too. Whatever you do though op, on what information yiu have given here, do not move in with him.

Aeroflotgirl · 03/09/2018 21:26

Monty how old are you, 15! Somebody in their late 40s is not old, unless your a teenager, then it is ancient. We are not talking oap here.

LittleMissMarker · 03/09/2018 21:45

Having read your OP carefully, and the whole thread, I am assuming that while you have not given us the complete picture of your relationship, what you have shared is the truth. So first, to deal with your four initial points in turn:

  1. That is appalling and it is having a devastating effect on you already. If he was perfect in every other way it would be a good reason to get rid. And he isn't.
  1. it's a way he shows love and he has a vast appetite and expects me to match it

Being "a feeder" (your words) is not a way to show love. He is forcing you to satisfy his emotional needs by stuffing yourself with his food. If he wanted to show love he would cook you small portions of exquisite food. He is a very damaged and damaging person.

  1. That is the least of your worries. Not because it's not a worry (in a normal relationship it would be) but because 1 and 2 are so much worse.
  1. Maybe his ex-wife's metabolism could cope, or maybe she has bulimia, or maybe she looked a lot worse until they split up. It is most unlikely that any women with self respect would think "well I look like them too so no problem" - it is more likely that those sorts of comment are why they are no longer together.

And I am afraid that nothing in your later posts makes him seem any more appealing, including his other ways of "showing love" some of which seem more like rushing you and being over-involved. His behaviour towards his own DD is atrocious, and by paying for the sports club but taking no interest he has shown he will gladly throw money at her to reel you in but he hasn't actually changed towards her.

And your own judgment is a bit weak in places. Where you say for example "He makes the derogatory comments about other women to me, ironically because he trusts me, he feels he can make totally honest comments about other people to me only because I am his safe space." that is bad, not good. He should not be using you in that way and you should not be allowing it (even if the only way to stop it is to leave). You should not allow yourself to be used as his "safe space" for unacceptable behaviour. That opens you to future abuse.

monty means well but her suggestions tackle the minor problem (compliments) and none of the really serious ones. The reason for not just trying to "fix the roof" is that things are likely to get a lot worse for you very soon, the roof is not just leaky it is likely to collapse. He is already behaving atrociously as a result of your pregnancy, and you are already being damaged by it. Pregnancy is only the first pinch point, there are two more upcoming pinch points when his bad behaviour is likely to get a lot worse and his good behaviour is likely to fade out. One is when he moves in with you, the other is when the baby is born.

So to continue monty's roof anology, you should not move in to this house before the roof is permanently fixed. And to be specific, it would be very wise to postpone living together until he has proved that he can stop all this dire behaviour consistently for a long period of time. Several months at least, preferably a couple of years. Then (back to the analogy) you will have more confidence that the roof is really fixed (not just temporarily patched) and that it is safe to move in without the whole thing falling on your head, or your children's.

I'm sure you guys wouldn't speak to your friends and family face to face in such a manner on the amount of information you've been given.

Indeed I would not, and that is why people come to AIBU - to get the unvarnished truth from strangers. Without any need to please him, or you, or maintain family harmony, or anything else. What you do with that truth, whose truth you choose to believe, is up to you.

Gabilan · 03/09/2018 22:32

OP I realise this is very difficult for you. You came on here thinking you had a bit of a minor problem with an otherwise lovely man and you've been told by the majority of posters that far from being lovely, he sounds awful and might well be dangerous. I know it is easier to read posts like Monty's, that confirm that with a bit of work, you can make everything OK.

But please keep an open mind about posts like LittleMissMarkers. Take heed now, even if you don't act on it. I just think if you don't listen now, in a few years time you'll really come to wish that you had.

TatianaLarina · 03/09/2018 23:12

Maybe his ex-wife's metabolism could cope, or maybe she has bulimia, or maybe she looked a lot worse until they split up

Or maybe she just didn’t eat it. Perhaps she had more balls than the OP and wasn’t so desperate.

I’m assuming she got fed up with feeding and the derogatory comments. Wise woman.

AltheaorDonna · 04/09/2018 00:40

I also have to chime in on you blaming his age on him being a disgusting sexist creep. My husband is 50 and wouldn't dream of behaving like this, and would totally call out anyone else letching over teenagers.

And as for trying to say people on her wouldn't say the same to someone's face, in this case I absolutely would, and have done!

strangelove99 · 04/09/2018 01:21

Men constantly commenting on other women's bodies is just not acceptable behaviour in a normal relationship. If my DH did that I'd give him short shrift. Yes, he makes the occasional "ooh isn't blah blah looking lovely" if he sees a celeb on TV or something but he never critiques their bodies/weight/fatness/thinness etc.

Doing it to very young women is particularly pathetic behaviour. No 18 year old gives a shit what your old man thinks of their tits. If they overheard him they would laugh in his face.

And yes, my DH compliments me and is affectionate towards me all the time (as I am to him) because that's what people in love do.

The shit that some women put up with and make excuses for in their relationships never ceases to surprise me.

mathanxiety · 04/09/2018 01:38

The book is called 'How to Delude Yourself and Place Your Daughters in Danger', subtitled 'Nobody Understands Him But Me'.

Good luck.

Motoko · 04/09/2018 02:25

I showed love with my cooking, but I didn't force people to eat it, or make them eat more than they wanted.
Why are you going to avoid eating with him? Why can't you just leave what you can't eat on the plate, if he still insists on giving you large portions? Why won't he give you smaller portions like you've asked, if he's so loving?
How do you know the girls he's oggling are over 18? Many 13 year olds look over 18.

Shades of grey. Even evil people have their good points, and love others, it doesn't make them any less evil though and that you should ignore the bad stuff they do.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

sadiesnakes · 04/09/2018 04:03

I can relate to a lot of your post op, I have no advice because I actually can't handle my own situation with my dh but it's definitely self esteem destroying.Thanks

sadiesnakes · 04/09/2018 04:03

I can relate to a lot of your post op, I have no advice because I actually can't handle my own situation with my dh but it's definitely self esteem destroying.Thanks

Birdnerd · 04/09/2018 04:57

Ah fuck it I don't know why op posted here just let her get on with being with a dickbag partner.

Motherbear26 · 04/09/2018 06:49

In an earlier update, one thing really struck me. You said that you had been compromising your core beliefs for the last few months. Ones core beliefs are the things that make them the person they are, and not respecting them is damaging to ones own self and totally incompatible with any sort of happiness or peace. Anyone with good self esteem would NEVER compromise their core beliefs for another, let alone be in a relationship and have a child with them. For the sake of both your children, please rethink this damaging relationship. And please understand that I would say this to anyone close to me, not just a stranger on the internet who’s personal situation deeply concerns me.Flowers

saganorenscarandcoat · 04/09/2018 06:55

I couldn't give a shiny shit what someone so ugly on the inside thinks of the outside appearance of others. He sounds truly awful.

TheDowagerCuntess · 04/09/2018 06:57

The OP has no intention of breaking up with this man.

Any man - no matter how utterly sub-standard - is better than no man at all. Even if it means forcing his insidiousness on her own daughter.

The OP doesn't care. Her priority is keeping him, and to hell with everything else.

Gottalovethesummer · 04/09/2018 07:37

He might 'improve' and stop commenting or give you more compliments but deep down you will always know
A) what he is thinking every time you pass someone / see a young girl so he will no longer even have to comment to elicit a negative response in you and destroy your self esteem.
B) you will know that he is only complimenting you because he has been asked to. Will you believe him?
C) you will worry about what he thinks of your teenage daughter when she starts to develope.

I had a relationship like this one ( but with women in general not teenagers) and it massively tips the balance of power with your relationship. It conditioned me to be on a hair trigger of hurt/humiliation and low self esteem.
6 months into our relationship, we went to a party and he spent the evening chatting to the same girl even though I was there. At that point I knew I was done with that relationship. He claimed he loved me but this is not how you respect and love someone.

Gottalovethesummer · 04/09/2018 07:57

Having said that, only you know the true extent of the problem or even if you have exaggerated to get your point across. Whatever any one days on an anonymous forum, the only questions you need to ask yourself are
A) are my children potentially at risk.
B) will this man make me compromise my core beliefs
C)is this man making me unhappy.
Answering just one of these with a yes if enough.

Bluntness100 · 04/09/2018 08:21

The OP has no intention of breaking up with this man

I suspect this is true, but to an extent I understand it. She's six months pregnant to him, she got pregnant to him after only knowing him 6 months. At least they don't live together.

Her self esteem is already being destroyed, she's six months pregnant and trying not to eat to the extent she feels faint so she falls into his ideal. So he wants her. He is deliberately cruel, he comments negatively on women who look like her.

And more horrifyingly she knows he likes very young women and has taken a special interest in her daughter.

All the nonsense of it's because he's nearly 50. He struggles to compliment people, it's about love languages is bonkers though and makes me think it isn't real.

It could be though someone who has made a terrible mistake, got pregnant to a man she didn't know, and desperately doesn't want to believe it due to thr baby. If she stays, in a few years, she will be a shell of herself, not eating and warily watching him round every teenager he's near, inc her own daughter, and constantly comparing herself and coming up thr loser.

It's a horrible situation if it's real, on many levels. He's a man whose sexual tastes run to very slim teenagers. She's never going to be that again.