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Partner doesn't find me attractive - how to deal with this? AIBU?

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Nerolily · 02/09/2018 18:23

I am six months pregnant and I've put on a bit more weight than I would have liked over the last six months. I've gone from a size 10/11 to a size 12/13 and obviously I have a decent sized bump to go with that too. I'm only 5ft4 so being almost 11 stone now doesn't look great on me.

My partner seems to love me but I don't think he finds me attractive at all. He has a very (media influenced?) idea of what's attractive in a woman: very slim, very fit, very young and very pert. Basically an ideal that's really hard to live up to.

He's no spring chicken himself. Late 40s, and is a bit overweight. I'm in my early 40's and currently also a bit overweight. I wasn't when I met him, I was 9 stone.

This would all be ok except for four things:

1 He often comments how unattractive women are who look like me or perhaps even a bit slimmer or younger than me, he even says 'ugh' at them. We see a topless sunbather on the beach who isn't totally slim but more pert than I am right now and comments things like 'I don’t think she should be topless. It would be ok if she was 19'. He used to talk all the time about how attractive very young women in their late teens or early 20s are (this was until I said how upsetting it was) he still makes comments about older (say over 30) or fatter (say size 12/14+) women being unattractive, and says how attractive much younger (less than 20) and much slimmer (size 8 or less) women are.

2 He loves to cook, he loves to eat, he loves me to eat what he cooks, he needs my approval for the things he cooks, it's a way he shows love and he has a vast appetite and expects me to match it. His entire day revolves around what he's cooking for dinner or lunch. He wants to impress me with his cooking and loves to cook big meals for us and our children. He gives me portions that are the same size as his, he weighs 1.5 times as much as I do and is 6ft.

3 He has stopped complimenting my physical appearance utterly and completely since I started putting on weight (a few months into our relationship) he continues to say zero complimentary about my appearance as I grow steadily more pregnant. Nothing, not one word. Nothing positive springs to his mind about how I look whatsoever. He used to compliment me when we first met.

4 His ex wife is a size 6-8 and has the body of a teenager. Very fit, very toned. She's older than me and frankly looks incredible. They were together for 15 years, clearly her metabolism could cope with the overfeeding and when he complimented teenagers in the street in front of her, she probably felt 'well I look like them too so no problem'.

It is eating away at me that he doesn't find me attractive. It's a fundamental female need as far as I'm concerned, that your partner communicates to you that he finds you attractive. Not only is there nothing forthcoming in that direction, I get a clear picture from his comments on other women about what he does find attractive. I don't feel our relationship has much long term potential at all if he loves me like a sister but doesn't find me attractive. I'm projecting a little in that sentence, but it's how he makes me feel. I have spoken to him about it a couple of times, and he apologises but nothing changes. I wish I was with someone who just found me attractive. I don't think I look too bad at all but he makes me feel so ugly and self conscious. I have been desperate to lose weight while pregnant but feel faint when I don't eat enough. I have asked him to stop cooking so much for me but he just gets offended. I don't know how to deal with it. It's breaking my heart.

OP posts:
Lizzie48 · 10/09/2018 20:44

The thing on AIBU is that posters will tell you the truth as they see it, not what you want to hear. There isn't any reason to lie. It's often not comfortable, but it's honest; if you don't like straight talking, don't start threads on AIBU.

Your DH's behaviour isn't normal at all; no man in my family or circle of friends would ever say the things he does. If they did, I wouldn't want to be associated with them.

TheDowagerCuntess · 11/09/2018 00:24

In all honesty, harsh as this will sound, I think people are less concerned about you (a sentient adult who can choose to stay with such a man, if she so wishes).

The strength of feeling is down to your children, who don't have any say in the matter. That's what's getting people so irate.

Anyway, good luck.

ferntwist · 11/09/2018 00:27

Yuk! He’s a pig. LTB

DarthLipgloss · 11/09/2018 07:28

Its not nornal no. My dp is younger than me, and as the OP seems to think that this stuff is relevant, very good looking and gers lots of attention for this. He is lovely and kind and tells me im beautiful all the time and wont let me put myself down at all.
We met through work and as part of this had to spend time in a pool teaching 18 yr old student girls hydrotherapy.
I felt self conscious as a size 12 on a good day 45 yr old around all these young size 6 women and made a comment about how great it must be for him surrounded by young women in swimwear...he looked at me disgusted and said "what, all the kids?!"
Your OH is going to wreck your mental health and that of any female chldren in your family, you know this is true cos its already happening.

PookieDo · 11/09/2018 07:38

I have young teenage daughters who are very slim and tiny and something about the description of your husband, potentially ogling them if they walked past makes me feel really ill and uncomfortable. They have teenage bodies, and it’s almost like that’s what he likes though isnt it? Tiny and young. If you described him as liking women of all ages who are slim and fit then I would still think him arrogant (as he is not slim himself!) but that’s what he likes. The fact he likes them young and pert does make him creepy.
‘Teen porn’ is apparently one of the most watched genres in the world and it’s men like your husband.
Frankly I don’t get what you see in him. He sounds creepy, gross, boring, pathetic and nasty.

Gabilan · 11/09/2018 07:43

Thankfully reading these posts helped me to realise I am perfectly capable of solving my own relationship problems and that I am in no way better off listening to a bitter angry pack of baying lunatics on mumsnet!

One of the reasons I hang out on Mumsnet, despite not being a mum, is because it is one of the few places on the internet where women's voices are heard. It's where we are listened to, without gaslighting and minimising and having to put up with people saying "are you sure, was it that bad, it just sounds normal, can't you grow a thicker skin, boys will be boys". And yet you refer to these women, who really listen to each other, as a "bitter angry pack of baying lunatics*.

Your DP has got you gaslighting yourself and you don't even know you're doing it.

PookieDo · 11/09/2018 07:45

FYI I did read the bits about the backtracking. I am sorry if you have found what people think about it hard to read.

MeteorGarden · 11/09/2018 08:03

OP, I read your post but not all of the comments as omw to work.

I think all women probably feel like this at some point. I’m a 25 year old size 10 (was an 18 once upon a time) and I feel like since I moved in with DP he doesn’t find me as attractive. I’ve had a spell of illness over summer and feel less than sexy.

Your DP does sound like he’s not helping with his pointless comments but I’m not as quick to condem him as some on here. Some guys are just programmed weird, say weird stuff, make inappropriate comments...etc.

I would sit down and have a very honest conversation with him. Spell out exactly how you are feeling and why his comments bother you. See what he says, he doesn’t seem very candid in his opinions so I’m guessing he’ll tell you the truth, it may hurt to hear.

Also keep in mind that being pregnant takes a toll on your body, it will change and you will gain weight, please don’t try to lose weight whilst pregnant for vanity reasons.

Xx

PookieDo · 11/09/2018 08:40

Yes all women usually feel unattractive when pregnant.

But this is the most sad part that isn’t just a silly little foible most women on mumsnet accept about men

Your DP does sound like he’s not helping with his pointless comments but I’m not as quick to condem him as some on here. Some guys are just programmed weird, say weird stuff, make inappropriate comments...etc

Aka all men have fetishes and perversions anyway

BumDisease · 11/09/2018 08:49

Good luck OP. You're going to need it.

Bluntness100 · 11/09/2018 08:55

Some guys are just programmed weird, say weird stuff, make inappropriate comments...etc

As are some women it seems.

Yes it's weird and inappropriate, isn't that what everyone is saying?

I read this one to my husband last night. I know we don't need a mans perspective on here, but for the op, his response was "did she kick him in the balls and tell him to fuck off" . When I responded no, she thinks he's a wonderful man, this is his love language and she's his safe space to express these thoughts, and she can sort it, he stated, "I think that's made up then.".

To a normal man the same age range as your partner, it feels made up. That's how abnormal this is. It's not just we are a bunch of baying lunatics. Even to men it's abnormal.

MeteorGarden · 11/09/2018 09:12

My point is that, unlike many comments on here, he’s not actually making comments directly about/to OP.

Do I think it’s wrong, yeah, but he may just not be thinking. If he carries on after pointing it out then he’s obviously a douche but you’re six months pregnant and I don’t see kicking him in the balls as a constructive resolution

Motoko · 11/09/2018 09:43

OP has pointed it out to him. He carries on because he knows it upsets her, it's exactly the reaction he wants. It's also why he keeps feeding her, "getting upset" if she says she doesn't want to eat the pile of food he's put on her plate, despite asking him for smaller portions.

Christ, the food issue and comments, fucked up OP's head so much, she risked her unborn baby's health by starving herself! And her solution to the food issue, is to not eat with him and the children. Not to just leave what she doesn't want to eat, like any person in a decent relationship would.

tolerable · 11/09/2018 12:15

@nerolily .Thankyou. I'm delighted to hear you're happier and have been able to adress this. I dont get of the fence very often but despaired at the way this thread went.particularly when words were reconstructed into an entirely different situation and advice directed in accordance.
what @BlueTyger said..absolutely.

"It really annoys me when people post about a situation in their lives, invite comment, and then get pissy because the respondents work on the information they've got. " Pretty much in a nutshell hits the concept of "aibu". Any sorta pissyness however,is not attributed to working on info provided,not in this instance. the facts as given were reworded and contorted entirely. 20somethings fit,slender pert physique was utterly repackaged and distributed as "teenage girls,childlike etc" Its fuck all at all like what op said.And despite the ability to imagine that hes a dirty old man,grooming her daughter,etc...which,might well sadly happen in life,...there was nothing evident to that provided by op. that was cooked up and then actually advised upon. It seems to be continued,despite very relevant flaws along with a very misplaced superiority load of pantsy comments that display an inability to as much as consider the possibility of being wrong. The option to read through who said what is always there.but..whatever.

Motoko · 11/09/2018 12:51

It wasn't twisted, OP did mention "teenage" bodies, his ex has the body of a teenager apparently, and that was just one mention. She didn't say his ex had the body of a 20something woman.

PookieDo · 11/09/2018 13:07

I read the words teenagers bodies. There was a lot of focus on this. I have a legal teenager but the concept of a nearly 50 year old man appreciating her body? Gross.

Look I’ve been in this situation where you are defending your man but also your choices. Deep down you feel ashamed of yourself for making this error of judgement with him, embarrassed of what you wrote about him and blaming it on your hormones, but now there is a lot at stake. So you rewrite the situation to avoid your greatest fears - being judged, being alone and having to face the reality of spending possibly the rest of your life feeling rejected and not good enough.

He probably will be able to manage to keep more things to himself from now on not to offend you. Doesn’t mean they still aren’t thoughts in his head, even if he never acts on them. He’s got a particular fetish for an age and a body type, is sexist and judgemental and demeaning to women. If OP wants to forgive him for these things, it’s her call. He is still all of those things though, and that’s the point people are making. However thin you make yourself you would be doing it for him. Not you. And that’s sad

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 11/09/2018 14:23

for starters, don't get the idea that all men feel this way. A friend used to eye up 18 year olds when we were in our early 20s. It went unnoticed. Now in mid 30s, when he still does it, the other blokes are openly disgusted. Some have daughters of their own. Most of the blokes were also really supportive about the fact their wives generally gained a bit of extra weight in pregnancy, and were more bothered about the health of their baby.

You decide what weight you are comfortable and happy with, and focus on eating well for your baby. it sounds like he is deluded and screwed up. if he is making inappropriate comments tell him you find these upsetting and offensive, enlist others to do the same if he does it around friends or family.

Bluntness100 · 11/09/2018 18:17

She clearly mentions teenagers. Read the op again.

tolerable · 11/09/2018 18:45

ok.I have. the teenager reference was to his ex wifes body shape. ..not that she was a teenager. ..and....its very relevant that the ops opening statement was that she'd gained more weight in the pregnancy than she liked.

Bluntness100 · 11/09/2018 19:03

Tolerable, you said you were ok with reading?

She states quite clearly about him fancying teenagers?

'I don’t think she should be topless. It would be ok if she was 19'. He used to talk all the time about how attractive very young women in their late teens... are .... and says how attractive much younger (less than 20) and much slimmer (size 8 or less) women are

Gabilan · 11/09/2018 19:04

From the OP, relevant bits in bold:

" and comments things like 'I don’t think she should be topless. It would be ok if she was 19'. He used to talk all the time about how attractive very young women in their late teens or early 20s are (this was until I said how upsetting it was) he still makes comments about older (say over 30) or fatter (say size 12/14+) women being unattractive, and says how attractive much younger (less than 20) and much slimmer (size 8 or less) women are."

19 year olds, women in their late teens, women who are less than 20 - these are teenagers.

TheDowagerCuntess · 11/09/2018 19:31

Oh tolerable, give up.

It clearly says in black and white, from the OP herself, that the man ogles teenagers, and uses it to make her feel bad.

PookieDo · 11/09/2018 19:33

Multiple references to teenage bodies

Sorry you don’t like to hear that mothers of teen girls and women in general find it repulsive creepy and unacceptable

tolerable · 11/09/2018 19:48

ok.late teens is still teenage.so i apologise for not catching where the op had said that. It doesnt equate to a sexual predator of children. nor require the going after her dd.

Bluntness100 · 11/09/2018 20:05

Tolerable no one said he was a sexual predator of children.

They said he was sexually attracted to teenagers. Because that's what the op told us. And at some point he may be living with one he isn't related to. Her daughter,

With all due respect this is derailing the thread having to explain it to You.