Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Partner doesn't find me attractive - how to deal with this? AIBU?

474 replies

Nerolily · 02/09/2018 18:23

I am six months pregnant and I've put on a bit more weight than I would have liked over the last six months. I've gone from a size 10/11 to a size 12/13 and obviously I have a decent sized bump to go with that too. I'm only 5ft4 so being almost 11 stone now doesn't look great on me.

My partner seems to love me but I don't think he finds me attractive at all. He has a very (media influenced?) idea of what's attractive in a woman: very slim, very fit, very young and very pert. Basically an ideal that's really hard to live up to.

He's no spring chicken himself. Late 40s, and is a bit overweight. I'm in my early 40's and currently also a bit overweight. I wasn't when I met him, I was 9 stone.

This would all be ok except for four things:

1 He often comments how unattractive women are who look like me or perhaps even a bit slimmer or younger than me, he even says 'ugh' at them. We see a topless sunbather on the beach who isn't totally slim but more pert than I am right now and comments things like 'I don’t think she should be topless. It would be ok if she was 19'. He used to talk all the time about how attractive very young women in their late teens or early 20s are (this was until I said how upsetting it was) he still makes comments about older (say over 30) or fatter (say size 12/14+) women being unattractive, and says how attractive much younger (less than 20) and much slimmer (size 8 or less) women are.

2 He loves to cook, he loves to eat, he loves me to eat what he cooks, he needs my approval for the things he cooks, it's a way he shows love and he has a vast appetite and expects me to match it. His entire day revolves around what he's cooking for dinner or lunch. He wants to impress me with his cooking and loves to cook big meals for us and our children. He gives me portions that are the same size as his, he weighs 1.5 times as much as I do and is 6ft.

3 He has stopped complimenting my physical appearance utterly and completely since I started putting on weight (a few months into our relationship) he continues to say zero complimentary about my appearance as I grow steadily more pregnant. Nothing, not one word. Nothing positive springs to his mind about how I look whatsoever. He used to compliment me when we first met.

4 His ex wife is a size 6-8 and has the body of a teenager. Very fit, very toned. She's older than me and frankly looks incredible. They were together for 15 years, clearly her metabolism could cope with the overfeeding and when he complimented teenagers in the street in front of her, she probably felt 'well I look like them too so no problem'.

It is eating away at me that he doesn't find me attractive. It's a fundamental female need as far as I'm concerned, that your partner communicates to you that he finds you attractive. Not only is there nothing forthcoming in that direction, I get a clear picture from his comments on other women about what he does find attractive. I don't feel our relationship has much long term potential at all if he loves me like a sister but doesn't find me attractive. I'm projecting a little in that sentence, but it's how he makes me feel. I have spoken to him about it a couple of times, and he apologises but nothing changes. I wish I was with someone who just found me attractive. I don't think I look too bad at all but he makes me feel so ugly and self conscious. I have been desperate to lose weight while pregnant but feel faint when I don't eat enough. I have asked him to stop cooking so much for me but he just gets offended. I don't know how to deal with it. It's breaking my heart.

OP posts:
picklepost · 03/09/2018 15:32

Good grief. Why do you crave the approval of this revolting misogynist?
What do you imagine the pair of you are teaching the childrn with your obsessive and obnoxious body shaming?

Nerolily · 03/09/2018 15:33

sigh

OP posts:
Merryoldgoat · 03/09/2018 15:34

Okay OP - you’ve obviously got it under control.

Much luck and hope all goes well with the baby.

MarthasGinYard · 03/09/2018 15:36

'He's not, he's tall, angular, good looking and A LITTLE BIT overweight. He's big, tall, strong, has an excellent jawline, I imagine he was able to pull all the hottest girls when he was younger, which now contributes to his expectations of attractiveness now (I will come back to that) and also, he has a little bit of a belly. Trust me when he puts on a suit, there's no belly bulge and he's a very good looking guy. '

Oh that's ok then

TBH you both as I said earlier you both sound slightly shallow in this regard.

Good luck when you live together

You might need it Thanks

KurriKurri · 03/09/2018 15:37

I'd let him bugger off and try hisluck with one of the young girls he drools over. My XH left me for a very young woman, - guess what ? after she'd exhausted his limited bank balance, it turned out she didn't want to be with a middle aged man with a beer gut, prostate problems and very few of his own teeth.

IDontEatFriedTurtle · 03/09/2018 15:37

I’m sorry to say this but he sounds like an absolute douchebag

I feel like extreme douchebag works better than absolute douche bag here, do you not? Sort of 200% percent doucheyness rather than 100%

MarthasGinYard · 03/09/2018 15:38

'He may not look like Harvey Weinstein from the outside, but he sure does from the inside,'Grin

Sorry I know that's not really funny ....but as long as he keeps it all hidden behind that 'angular jaw' then good times, hey

Nerolily · 03/09/2018 15:40

@marthasginyard

I was just correcting the visual caricature that was bizarrely manifesting all over this thread. His appearance and his behaviour are separate points as I have pointed out twice already.

OP posts:
CountessVonBoobs · 03/09/2018 15:43

OP, you are missing the point. Harvey Weinstein isn't gross because of what he looks like. A gentle, caring, empathetic person in his body would be a beautiful soul. He's gross because of his sexism, his behaviour, and his entitlement.

Sound at all familiar?

I just cannot imagine being able to get ladywood for even a second for someone who expressed the views he does. You were fine with his "subtle" raging sexism, so... Here you go, I guess. Congratulations on your prize. I just hope your DD is able to get away before either he makes a pass at her, or he ruins her own relationship with her body.

HectorlovesKiki · 03/09/2018 15:51

YANBU.
My heart goes out to you because you have married a complete shit.
He is a misogynist, sexist, selfish, manipulative creep of the highest order.
You deserve better than this, you really do.
I wouldn't tolerate his poor behaviour, I'd be long gone.

IhatetheArchers · 03/09/2018 15:53

Well I got about half way through your spirited defence of the creepy old tosser and lost the will to live. Starting to wonder if this is a wind up.

But taking you on face value; He isn't you daughter's stepfather, he is your newish boyfriend, no one will be devastated if you split up.

He acts like an old perv on the beach, and you reaction is to run away and cry because he isn't perving over you?

If he is nearly 50 he would have been young in the 80s and 90s, not the 1950s, so don't blame it on his generation.

You only got pregnant by him because you though your overies were about to dry up?

Fucking hell, if this is real you deserve each other, but the children don't.

MarthasGinYard · 03/09/2018 15:53

'OP, you are missing the point.'

You really, really are somewhat

Nerolily · 03/09/2018 15:53

@countessvonboobs

Sigh. You're missing my point which I'll make for the fourth time, that his appearance and behaviour are entirely different things. One is nothing to do with the other. One does not make the other more or less acceptable or unacceptable. They are unrelated, I was just corrected the visual image people had cooked up on this thread.

OP posts:
Nerolily · 03/09/2018 15:57

Ok that's enough bizarre judgemental angry internet for me.

Profound thanks to those commenters who ACTUALLY READ my concerns and addressed them with constructive advice and comments. I deeply appreciate it.

For me, this has been a lesson in how an anonymous forum on the internet reduces all of our social boundaries and filters of normal acceptable discourse to zero.

I'm sure you guys wouldn't speak to your friends and family face to face in such a manner on the amount of information you've been given. You'd actually listen to the concerns, give your understanding and then advise with kindness and frankness based on what you know.

There are a LOT of people's own issues being projected onto mine here. Blowing the original problem into something else entirely different.

Instead of well-meant advice here I've received a shedload of bizarre assumptions, ridiculous projections and personal condemnations towards me.

It is possible to give advice without knowing the full picture and it's possible to reserve judgement and still give advice.

Be kind people.

OP posts:
Melliegrantfirstlady · 03/09/2018 15:57

Op

There’s no way to change this man. If he likes slimmer women then that’s that.

It’s you who’s changed, not him so why the surprise?

I found your comment odd when you said he commented on teens but his ex didn’t mind as she looked like one herself

No man I know would ever dare! How gross, slimy and vile when you are a grown man! Looking at teenagers!?

MarthasGinYard · 03/09/2018 15:58

Op you do seem very invested in his good looks.

And the fact he would have been pulling the 'hot girls' in his day.

It really doesn't matter what it's dressed up in. It is what it is.

And it doesn't sound savoury as much as you'd like to educate him and put a whole load of time in.

I'd less myself the stress personally

He's said 'this is me' on more than one occasion by the sounds of it.

Believe him

Gabilan · 03/09/2018 15:58

Bear in mind he's nearly 50, so he's a bit of product of his generation

Another one saying that won't wash. I'm way nearer 50 than 40. After the postmodernism of the 1960s, the 70s and 80s were more forward thinking than some people seem to remember. Children of that time were often brought up by feminists, or people who were influenced by feminism whether or not they'd care to admit it. Being born in the late 60s is not an excuse for sexism.

Aeroflotgirl · 03/09/2018 15:59

Neroliliy what is very telling is the bunch of massive problems you have within a very short time in your relationship, and the fact that you have to work hard with him to get him be be a quarter of the man you want him to be is a dealbreaker. You rushed into having this baby 3 months into your relationship, use your head, this time before making any other major decisions.

It is anything but perfect is it, that is why you came on here, to ask our advice, and we have given it to you in a frank and candid fashion. Op his behaviour towards you and towards women is unacceptable, it is abusive and nasty. He makes you feel sad, miserable, and unattractive. He feeds you food to ensure that you remain that. He does not seem to like girls and women very much, the way in which he treats you, his dd, and quite possibly his future dd. Your children are relying on you to make the right decision for them, as they cannot make that choice. You are in a very good position living on your own, and not being married to him. Think very carefully about any future decisions and how they impact on your dds.

MarthasGinYard · 03/09/2018 15:59

'I'm sure you guys wouldn't speak to your friends and family face to face in such a manner on the amount of information you've been given.'

You know what

I really would

Aeroflotgirl · 03/09/2018 16:03

Yes I would tell my friends or family, definitely if any of them found themselves in your position. People have given you very good advice, or have been in the same situation as you, but it has gone pearshaped in the future. I would sit down and read and digest this advice.

MarthasGinYard · 03/09/2018 16:03

Ps, when you've had dc

Get back in that gym

Toute suite

Think of his ex with the 'body of a teenager' as Lord help you if you let yourself relax in an excess couple of stone.

Seriously

Take care of yourself

MarthasGinYard · 03/09/2018 16:04

And even if he wings it

PickAChew · 03/09/2018 16:05

Fuck sake, he's about the same age as me. We were born at peak hippy, not during the baroque era.

FlowerpotFairyHouse · 03/09/2018 16:06

If he's never been any different, how was this not a problem for you until you became pregnant?

steff13 · 03/09/2018 16:06

I would question the judgment of anyone who would willingly expose her child to a man she herself describes as sexist. In person or online. I hope your existing daughter's father is a decent man. Too bad for the new baby, though.

Swipe left for the next trending thread