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Partner doesn't find me attractive - how to deal with this? AIBU?

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Nerolily · 02/09/2018 18:23

I am six months pregnant and I've put on a bit more weight than I would have liked over the last six months. I've gone from a size 10/11 to a size 12/13 and obviously I have a decent sized bump to go with that too. I'm only 5ft4 so being almost 11 stone now doesn't look great on me.

My partner seems to love me but I don't think he finds me attractive at all. He has a very (media influenced?) idea of what's attractive in a woman: very slim, very fit, very young and very pert. Basically an ideal that's really hard to live up to.

He's no spring chicken himself. Late 40s, and is a bit overweight. I'm in my early 40's and currently also a bit overweight. I wasn't when I met him, I was 9 stone.

This would all be ok except for four things:

1 He often comments how unattractive women are who look like me or perhaps even a bit slimmer or younger than me, he even says 'ugh' at them. We see a topless sunbather on the beach who isn't totally slim but more pert than I am right now and comments things like 'I don’t think she should be topless. It would be ok if she was 19'. He used to talk all the time about how attractive very young women in their late teens or early 20s are (this was until I said how upsetting it was) he still makes comments about older (say over 30) or fatter (say size 12/14+) women being unattractive, and says how attractive much younger (less than 20) and much slimmer (size 8 or less) women are.

2 He loves to cook, he loves to eat, he loves me to eat what he cooks, he needs my approval for the things he cooks, it's a way he shows love and he has a vast appetite and expects me to match it. His entire day revolves around what he's cooking for dinner or lunch. He wants to impress me with his cooking and loves to cook big meals for us and our children. He gives me portions that are the same size as his, he weighs 1.5 times as much as I do and is 6ft.

3 He has stopped complimenting my physical appearance utterly and completely since I started putting on weight (a few months into our relationship) he continues to say zero complimentary about my appearance as I grow steadily more pregnant. Nothing, not one word. Nothing positive springs to his mind about how I look whatsoever. He used to compliment me when we first met.

4 His ex wife is a size 6-8 and has the body of a teenager. Very fit, very toned. She's older than me and frankly looks incredible. They were together for 15 years, clearly her metabolism could cope with the overfeeding and when he complimented teenagers in the street in front of her, she probably felt 'well I look like them too so no problem'.

It is eating away at me that he doesn't find me attractive. It's a fundamental female need as far as I'm concerned, that your partner communicates to you that he finds you attractive. Not only is there nothing forthcoming in that direction, I get a clear picture from his comments on other women about what he does find attractive. I don't feel our relationship has much long term potential at all if he loves me like a sister but doesn't find me attractive. I'm projecting a little in that sentence, but it's how he makes me feel. I have spoken to him about it a couple of times, and he apologises but nothing changes. I wish I was with someone who just found me attractive. I don't think I look too bad at all but he makes me feel so ugly and self conscious. I have been desperate to lose weight while pregnant but feel faint when I don't eat enough. I have asked him to stop cooking so much for me but he just gets offended. I don't know how to deal with it. It's breaking my heart.

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MistressDeeCee · 03/09/2018 00:06

He is a creepy middle-aged man who peers at teenagers

Yep

& that he actually has the cheek to comment to you and about other women when he's 40+ and overweight just has "tragically deluded saddo" written all over it.

He's a better man than I'm making him sound, but when it comes to judging women's bodies and a fair attitude to both sexes, yes it is this bad and it drives me crazy

Nothing 'better' about him at all. A creep is a creep. If a woman sees him staring overhears his disrespectful comments, the mouthful they give him should dispel you re what a 'better man' is.

He must've killed your self-esteem for you to even be within 3 feet of him. Work on that. Don't be fooled into doubting yourself by these uncouth misogynistic type men. Take your life back. & don't let him feed you into ill-health, or make you think less of yourself. He's just a man OP, he's not your God.

His ex-wife being slim and pert has nothing to do with anything. If slim and perfect is a yardstick of relationship success then how come they split up?

Sorry but he sounds too ill-mannered and silly for words, I'd have to tell him to stfu and leave my ears and life in peace re his nonsensical nasty diatribe about women.

TheDowagerCuntess · 03/09/2018 00:08

Yes, do you really think your DD will be traumatised by you no longer living with this (random) person that she surely hardly knows, and can be unlikely to have any sort of meaningful bond with?

You're the one who likes him - not her.

HelenaDove · 03/09/2018 00:19

Please ditch the fucking bellend OP.

MistressDeeCee · 03/09/2018 00:30

I commented, and hadn't read the full thread as yet. I have now.

Fucking hell.

(Almost) speechless

I really could heave at the thought of your DD in same space as him.

Time to hide thread.

IdahoJones · 03/09/2018 00:39

Yeah, sick stuff really

Mincingfuckdragon · 03/09/2018 00:57

OP when I was a kid my dad used to say shit like your husband in front of me all the time. It was creepy. My friends all ended up thinking he was a bit creepy too, which was really embarrassing. It fucked up my view about how men should treat women. It also deeply fucked up my brothers in this regard. If you stay with him, you absolutely must tackle this issue head on, before your daughter is old enough to understand. He doesn't have to say much, or say it often, to have a bad effect. For your daughter's sake, deal with it now. It's your job, as a mum, to pull him up and make sure he never, ever, verbalise his views in front of your kids.

Mincingfuckdragon · 03/09/2018 01:00

Sorry, that kind of looks like I'm blaming you for his bad behaviour. I don't mean to, it's absolutely not your fault. What I mean is, either make him stop or, if you can't, then leave. His disgusting behaviour is something your daughter should not see. If you can't leave, then at least give your daughter lots and lots of counterbalancing views. My mum didn't, but then she was scared of dad I think for other reasons.

Motoko · 03/09/2018 01:46

How old is your daughter? It really sounds like he's grooming her. I hope to god she's very young, so you can get out before she's old enough to turn him on.

You need to leave this vile creep, no qualities can redeem him from what he is. "Subtle sexism"? Subtle, really?

Look, you've got what you wanted, the baby is on it's way, so do yourself, and your daughters a favour, and leave him.

Has it not occurred to you that his ex wife may be so slim because she has an eating disorder, brought on by him. She probably went to the bathroom after eating his large portions, to puke it all back up again, so she could carry on being his ideal woman, except age won't be held back.

CoughArghCoughArghCough · 03/09/2018 02:06

I don't think I can give impartial advice to you as I would dump the pervy little shit.

When DH and I were first together, we were watching a sports thing with his friends and he made a comment about a woman on an advert running in a bikini/rather large boobs. It wasn't hideously sexual, more like "Those are certainly some boobs!" but it was in front of his friends, and I'm not overly gifted with boobage and a bit sensitive. Even his friends told me (& him!) he was a dick for making that comment in front of me, and they didn't even know me. He made another comment about a group of women and their boobs a week or so later (again in front of his friends, the dick) and I dumped him there and then. I told him it wasn't really his fault, but I'm not wasting my time on a date with a creepy prick that stares at other women's bodies when I'm with him. We broke up but he worked so hard to prove himself not a prick. I gave things another try and ten years later he has NEVER made a comment in my earshot about another woman's body because he knows it's a dickish thing to do. I'm not deluded enough to believe he doesn't think it, but he doesn't stare at other women around me, definitely doesn't comment around me and actually feels embarrassed that I thought less of him because of what he said.

Honestly, OP, your partner is vile. It's not you, it's him and you do not have to put up with his shit.

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CantankerousCamel · 03/09/2018 07:20

Op my husband doesn’t compliment me and it has had a huge detrimental affect on my self confidence. He also won’t compliment my guitar playing which effectively has made me not want to play anymore which is crappy.

But actually he just isn’t that sort of guy, he tends to show his love in other ways.

For me the endless complimenting are not the problem here because I do think that can be worked through. You need to learn how to think how you do about yourself without the need for him to endlessly praise you.

But, the looking at girls young enough to be his child? The comments about 19 year olds getting their breasts out on a beach?

Those are deal breakers especially if you children and even more so if you have girls. This man is abusive and doesn’t have boundaries when it comes to young women. That’s not just being shitty, it’s really worrying.

My husband finds it awkward when very young women are dressed in very little around him. He’s getting to the point where he could have fathered them and he says it’s just become odd.

The reason your OP doesn’t have any male friends to look down on women with, is because he is creepy.

MetalMidget · 03/09/2018 07:29

Question: how often do your partners/DH's compliment you? Or say something nice about your appearance?

Pretty much every day, always unprompted. I tell him that he has terrible taste! I put on five stone since we first met (not counting pregnancy weight!) - I'm slowly getting it down, but have a flabby tum and slightly sad looking breasts post - baby. He doesn't care, says that I should give myself a break as my body has done something amazing, etc.

Your partner isn't subtly sexist, OP. He's a raging, out and proud misogynist. Do not raise daughters around this man.

Celestia26 · 03/09/2018 07:35

He sounds vile, sorry OP.

I put on alot of weight after having children, and my husband tells me all the time how attractive I am. He may not feel that way, but he says it because he knows I need to hear it.

It's a horrible double standard of your partner to feel that he can stuff his face and be overweight, but that you have to be very slim (despite being pregnant no less)!

I don't think I could stay with someone like that, I would worry about his attitude affecting my children's attitudes towards what 'women should look like.'

Changedforpost · 03/09/2018 07:39

Awful just bloody awful. How do you even put up with it. My oh is a man's man. However occasionally he can be a little sexist. I don't think he realises hes doing it and it's never in a mean way. He's pretty old fashioned in his ways. Comes from his upbringing. This being said he makes me feel like the most beautiful woman in the world and I can hand on heart say in ten years I've never even doubted how attractive he finds me. A little sexism every now and then as annoying as it is I can handle. But you have shacked up with a truly awful excuse for a man. My friend ended up with a bloke like this. He would feed her up then tell her she was fat. He even bought her a gym membership for her birthday. She's now trapped as she's had a kid with him and hes already pestering for another. He's ebbed away at her to the point she is a shadow of her former self and doesn't even realise. The control won't end with the food........

onetimeposter · 03/09/2018 07:56

I think it is a HUGE red flag when men have no male friends

MarthasGinYard · 03/09/2018 08:01

G R I M

CryptoFascist · 03/09/2018 08:05

"HelenaDove

Nero im sorry but he DOESNT love you.

When this cunt is an old man and needs help to get off the commode i bet he suddenly wont care what the care workers dress size is."

Oh you'd better believe they still do! I worked in care management and the complaints I have had for not sending the prettier carers are unbelievable. It's usually phrased carefully but the most requested carers are the most conventionally attractive.

DarthLipgloss · 03/09/2018 08:07

He sounds sexist and controlling, he reduces women to objects that he either accepts or rejects.
Even if you stay an 'acceptable' size for him you are still going to get older..hes still going to be a creep who leers at teenagers.
I bet he cant wait until DD is older and has teenage friends hanging around.
Im 5'4 and not pregnant, i weigh 11 1/2 stone and i think i look good, my oh tells me im beautiful every day, but more importantly respects me as a person.
I would not want to expose my kids to this.

AgathaF · 03/09/2018 08:10

What an awful man. Controlling, with a toxic relationship with his children (his poor kids), a creepy pervert (how will you feel when he's openly perving at your daughter?), who wants to make you feel bad about yourself.

Wow. You really scraped the bottom of the barrel for him!

The question is though, what are you going to do about it now? Allow this to continue, or protect your daughter, your unborn child and you and get him out of your life?

AltheaorDonna · 03/09/2018 08:29

He sounds utterly vile! How on earth can you find this sexist creep attractive in any way? I wouldn't care if he was the most gorgeous man on earth and had a solid gold cock, I wouldn't touch this pervert with somebody's else's bargepole. Honestly, for the sake of your daughter, please get away from this loser.

Gabilan · 03/09/2018 08:55

However occasionally he can be a little sexist. I don't think he realises hes doing it and it's never in a mean way. He's pretty old fashioned in his ways. Comes from his upbringing

For those people saying this man shouldn't bring up children, especially female children, this is why he shouldn't bring up boys either. I get where you're coming from but his son may just end up like him and perpetuate the cycle, or he might be someone who picks up on some of the attitudes and realise that it's all just wrong.

Gabilan · 03/09/2018 08:56

Not realise that it's all just wrong, sorry.

Changedforpost · 03/09/2018 09:11

@gabilan I was referring to my oh not the ops. I was staying mine merely has some old fashioned opinions but the ops partner takes it to the extreme

RedPanda2 · 03/09/2018 09:15

It's so funny to me that a man can look like a gutter troll and still comment on women's looks.
He sounds like a misogynist that thinks women are alive to be artistically pleasing to HIM. He's a fat middle aged man. Nobody cares what he thinks and you should tell him so.

Snappedandfarted2018 · 03/09/2018 09:26

As others said he has potential to groom your dd when she is of a particular age he finds attractive. The thought of it is sickening. You don’t actually know this man, I knew from your posts you hadn’t been together long. You basically moved a stranger in with your dd and got pregnant. Leave immediately the red flags are all there and remove you’re dd before there’s risk of sexual abuse. You might think it’s extreme but he is openly ogling young girls breasts it’s a worry what he might do behind close doors especially when your busy with the baby. It does happen op. The signs are there so something about it. His behaviour is inappropriate

TheGlaikitRambler · 03/09/2018 09:27

No amount of "nice" aspects make up for his vile ones. Not even a golden cock.
You must really hate yourself to put up with this shit.

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