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Partner doesn't find me attractive - how to deal with this? AIBU?

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Nerolily · 02/09/2018 18:23

I am six months pregnant and I've put on a bit more weight than I would have liked over the last six months. I've gone from a size 10/11 to a size 12/13 and obviously I have a decent sized bump to go with that too. I'm only 5ft4 so being almost 11 stone now doesn't look great on me.

My partner seems to love me but I don't think he finds me attractive at all. He has a very (media influenced?) idea of what's attractive in a woman: very slim, very fit, very young and very pert. Basically an ideal that's really hard to live up to.

He's no spring chicken himself. Late 40s, and is a bit overweight. I'm in my early 40's and currently also a bit overweight. I wasn't when I met him, I was 9 stone.

This would all be ok except for four things:

1 He often comments how unattractive women are who look like me or perhaps even a bit slimmer or younger than me, he even says 'ugh' at them. We see a topless sunbather on the beach who isn't totally slim but more pert than I am right now and comments things like 'I don’t think she should be topless. It would be ok if she was 19'. He used to talk all the time about how attractive very young women in their late teens or early 20s are (this was until I said how upsetting it was) he still makes comments about older (say over 30) or fatter (say size 12/14+) women being unattractive, and says how attractive much younger (less than 20) and much slimmer (size 8 or less) women are.

2 He loves to cook, he loves to eat, he loves me to eat what he cooks, he needs my approval for the things he cooks, it's a way he shows love and he has a vast appetite and expects me to match it. His entire day revolves around what he's cooking for dinner or lunch. He wants to impress me with his cooking and loves to cook big meals for us and our children. He gives me portions that are the same size as his, he weighs 1.5 times as much as I do and is 6ft.

3 He has stopped complimenting my physical appearance utterly and completely since I started putting on weight (a few months into our relationship) he continues to say zero complimentary about my appearance as I grow steadily more pregnant. Nothing, not one word. Nothing positive springs to his mind about how I look whatsoever. He used to compliment me when we first met.

4 His ex wife is a size 6-8 and has the body of a teenager. Very fit, very toned. She's older than me and frankly looks incredible. They were together for 15 years, clearly her metabolism could cope with the overfeeding and when he complimented teenagers in the street in front of her, she probably felt 'well I look like them too so no problem'.

It is eating away at me that he doesn't find me attractive. It's a fundamental female need as far as I'm concerned, that your partner communicates to you that he finds you attractive. Not only is there nothing forthcoming in that direction, I get a clear picture from his comments on other women about what he does find attractive. I don't feel our relationship has much long term potential at all if he loves me like a sister but doesn't find me attractive. I'm projecting a little in that sentence, but it's how he makes me feel. I have spoken to him about it a couple of times, and he apologises but nothing changes. I wish I was with someone who just found me attractive. I don't think I look too bad at all but he makes me feel so ugly and self conscious. I have been desperate to lose weight while pregnant but feel faint when I don't eat enough. I have asked him to stop cooking so much for me but he just gets offended. I don't know how to deal with it. It's breaking my heart.

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AnoukSpirit · 02/09/2018 21:47

no he doesn't comment on other women except to me

Well, you're the only one he's trying to hurt and demean so that figures. If he was simply somebody who thought it was generally OK to make the comments he does then he'd make them to other people too.

Your absolute determination to ignore and explain away the reality of his behaviour is incredibly sad to read. It's a special kind of denial when you're vehemently telling us the only way his behaviour is incompatible with love is if you lose your love for him.

So are you really telling us you treat the people you love like this?

You regularly make comments that make them feel shit about themselves?

You ignore them when they ask you to stop?

You overfeed them despite being asked to stop?

You sulk when they ask you nicely not to?

Your over feeding causes them to gain weight and then you continue making comments that make them feel even worse about themselves?

You apologise but don't bother to change your behaviour?

If this is how you express love to people, then I could understand your determination to argue this man does love you. Otherwise you're in denial.

People are concerned for you, not on some mission to label him a monster or whatever you've convinced yourself is going on here. Maybe if you poured the energy you're currently expending on rushing to his defense, and used it to engage here it would be more productive. Defending him on here won't change him. It won't make this stop being real.

At some point you will have to face this, but if you're not ready yet, you're not ready.

I wish you were though, because this will only get worse.

All abusive men start out kind, and charming, and wonderful. They promise us the world. That is how they get their hooks into us. But it doesn't mean once they reveal their abusive colours that they deserve defending.

How sad that the children in this home are learning that this is how they should expect to be treated. Is that why you think this is what love looks like?

ENormaSnob · 02/09/2018 21:48

Its like jimmy saville reincarnated.

MaryDollNesbitt · 02/09/2018 21:58

I can't believe you decided to breed with such a beast. He sounds utterly fucking repugnant, OP.

Hell would freeze over before I even entertained such a prick with polite small talk. Run away - fast.

mathanxiety · 02/09/2018 21:59

TatianaLarina Sun 02-Sep-18 21:28:47
Have you ever considered that your DD is part of your attraction? I don’t mean in the paedophilic sense but little girls get bigger every day. Before long he will have a teenager he is not a blood relation of living in his house. He likes late teenagers, right?

YES^^

I wonder what his own DD thinks she has to do to get his attention? Or what he might suggest to her by way of a relationship with her that would make her feel 'special'?

And what happens to your DD when he suddenly withdraws the sweet interest in her activities? Will she feel the same as you and be willing to do something as unthinkiable as starving yourself while pregnant in order to gain his approval? I am talking about the potential of sexual abuse of your older daughter here. From your description of what is now going on, it sounds as if she is being groomed. Look how easily he trapped you into desperate measures, and you are a grown adult...

SweatyFretty · 02/09/2018 22:03

DH compliments me multiple times a day, totally unprompted. He has throughout the entirety of our relationship. He looks at me and radiates love. I am in no doubt that he adores both me and my body.

Gabilan · 02/09/2018 22:06

He doesn't really have too many male mates to talk like this with

He doesn't need male mates to talk like this with because he doesn't need to talk like this at all.

I do feel sorry for you OP but this man sounds horrific. There is no amount of sexism that is tolerable and there is no way I would put up with sexism in order to have a child. When I started reading the thread I wondered whose idea it was to have a child so early in a relationship. Sorry OP but he saw you coming. You and your daughter. Run.

Merryoldgoat · 02/09/2018 22:07

OP - even if you don’t post anymore please read the thread and take it all on board.

ichifanny · 02/09/2018 22:19

My husband doesn’t compliment me all the time , I don’t need him to nor do I constantly fawn over his appearance but he makes me feel like he loves me and doesn’t comment on other women .

winnieofwhitby · 02/09/2018 22:22

I really hate men like this. They are pointless specimens.

Bluntness100 · 02/09/2018 22:29

I haven't read the whole thread, I'm too shocked. What a vile repugnant piece of shit this man is. Perving on young girls. How the fuck do you put up with that.

Just take care of yourself and your unborn baby. Don't risk your daughters health or life because of this scumbag.

Seriously. I thought I'd read it all on here. Then you read shit like this.

CSIblonde · 02/09/2018 22:48

Theres a reason she's his ex & it's probably this. Sit him down & spell it out that focusing on an ideal of perfection is demoralising, unrealistic and emotionally abusive. End the massive portions, say he's great cook but you can't eat that much /want to be healthy. If he's still the same after a mature discussion, I'd frankly start wondering what I'm doing staying. It must be awful.

TheDowagerCuntess · 02/09/2018 22:49

Seriously. I thought I'd read it all on here. Then you read shit like this.

Yes, this ^^

I honestly don't think most of us even know how to advise on this situation because it's so far out of the realms of normal.

Getting knocked up by someone you barely know, bringing him into your kids' lives, and lumbering a baby with a man like this for a father.

SwordToFlamethrower · 02/09/2018 22:53

Omg what a sexist bastard!!! Even of he had 100 other things going for him, this would be a deal breaker.

He wants a dolly bird. Not a woman. Urgh. So sorry but LTB. Protect your daughter and your self worth.

AnduinsGirl · 02/09/2018 22:57

I can't believe you decided to breed with such a beast. He sounds utterly fucking repugnant, OP.
This. Sorry but this.

HiHoToffee · 02/09/2018 22:57

You took a gamble because you wanted another child, really? Well, you gambled wrong so time to cut your losses and get your daughter out of this situation.

Onedayy · 02/09/2018 23:01

What are you thinking op? How do you feel about what posters are saying?

SwordToFlamethrower · 02/09/2018 23:06

My OH of 4 years, tells me I'm beautiful every single day, and I him. He complements different aspects of me. My eyes, smile, bum, feet, you name it! Even if I'm laying in my onesie with greasy hair and biscuit crumbs on my boobs.
And I've put on 2 stone since we met.

ForeverJung · 02/09/2018 23:10

why do you think this is love?!

Peanutbuttercups21 · 02/09/2018 23:14

What a creep Sad

WildIrishRose1 · 02/09/2018 23:22

I hope, OP, that you are thinking very hard about your future with this man. He is an appalling excuse for a human being. Do you REALLY want to spend the rest of your (one and only) life shackled to this relationship?

Ohyesiam · 02/09/2018 23:27

Why be with a man who thinks it’s ok to objectify and judge women constantly?
I wouldn’t touch him with a pole.
Leave him and let him shack up with a rubber doll, sound right up his street.
Does he manage to see you as a human at all?

powershowerforanhour · 02/09/2018 23:36

I had an ex boyfriend who was overweight himself, older than me, going grey and a bit of a feeder, but admired slim perfect women
I think there were four contributors:

  • he used to shovel in vast quantities of junk food himself so thought that was more normal than it is
  • perhaps a small element of wanting to make me a bit chubbier so less likely to leave him (not sure)
  • if I had succeeded in making a big change to eat only small portions of healthy food when I was with him then he would have felt more shit about his own food choices and also he would have "failed" relative to me. I remember one comment he made, almost to himself, after I came back from sports training one evening. It was probably the slimmest most well muscled I have ever been, whereas he was always very unfit all the time I knew him. He looked at my tanned, strong arms and muttered sadly to himself about how your girlfriend shouldn't be fitter than you. As if it was some sort of puzzling, slightly distressing upset of the natural order of things. I didn't say anything but that sort of attitude contributed to my dumping him.
  • in direct contradiction of point 2 (but logic doesn't come into it) I think he believed in the existence of the Cool Girl:
www.goodreads.com/quotes/584441-men-always-say-that-as-the-defining-compliment-don-t-they Probably believed the supermodels who say they stuff in chips and Haribo all day; would comment approvingly on the "natural look" when some fake tanned flat stomached Hollywood 20yo pulled off her diving gear onscreen to reveal perfect sexy-wet hair, face and body a million miles from what you actually look like when you've been diving, and probably only achieved after 20 takes with the close attentions of hair+makeup, and a bit of digital retouching. Feckin delusional.
Ohyesiam · 02/09/2018 23:38

Please don’t use not disrupting the children as a reason not to leave.
For your kids to see you raising your standards and choosing self esteem and happiness would be one of the best things you could do for them.
I don’t think I’ve ever said this before , but LTB.
He may or may not be conscious how he is negging you and giving with one hand while taking with the other to keep you in control. But now that you have become aware of it you need to act.
I know it’s hard, and I know the timing is shit, but sort your finances, take your child and go make a better life for yourself.Flowers

CantankerousCamel · 02/09/2018 23:55

Why is he making comments about women who are young enough to be his children?
That in itself is really too far as far as I’m concerned.

As for ‘being attractive’ I don’t think it’s the be all and end all in a marriage.

If you love someone you love to look at them, really that’s it.

AnyFucker · 03/09/2018 00:00

The "sad disruption" of the children happened when you shacked up with this tosser

That ship has well and truly sailed. It's damage limitation time now.