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AIBU to be shocked and hurt by this?

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MrsJamesKeziahDelaney · 30/08/2018 09:36

Hi everyone. I could really do with some advice and feedback please, on whether I'm overreacting to this situation.

I will try to explain, with a bit of background and so as not to dripfeed.

A family member has been visiting from abroad. We see her every 10 years approx and so I have met her a few times only in my adult life. She is in her 50s. For the purposes of this, I will call her Kate, (not her real name). I am living back at home at the moment, due to complex mental and physical disabilities (I have previously lived independently for several years). My parents and I get along pretty well most of the time. I have OCD and am a hoarder, which is something I am always trying to deal with and change, with varying degrees of success or failure. My clutter and hoarding has NOT spread beyond my bedroom, the rest of the house is unaffected, my room is clean, but is very cluttered and hoarded up and 'messy'.

The visit with my relative from abroad has been going well, we've all been making big efforts for it to go well and I thought we had 'turned a bit of a corner' in how we are all getting on well and finally getting to know Kate better. (She is staying for 2 weeks).

Fast forward to late last night. Everyone has gone to bed except me, I am relaxing on the sofa watching a film (with my lovely dog) and my dog is laying in a really funny position suddenly, with legs in the air, 'smiling' and snoring. Cute. I notice that my dad's digital camera is on the mantelpiece, so I think I will take a quick snap of dog in the funny pose (we often do this and use whichever camera or phone is laying around nearest). Switch camera on, it doesn't seem to work how it usually does, so I end up fumbling with it and the display screen pops up, with the photos that have been taken showing. I can see there are a few cute pics of our family pets I haven't seen before, so I am just scrolling through those, smiling at the funny pics, when I am horrified to discover a photo of the inside of my bedroom. And another and another etc....

I realise in horror (and after a bit of confusion wondering why my dad has taken pics of my room) that this camera actually belongs to Kate. She has taken 6 or 7 photos of the inside of my bedroom, all from different angles, zooming in on details of the worst clutter and piles of stuff etc. I can see the date displayed across the screen on these pics and can see it was a day when (unusually), I was out of the house all day. So she must have waited until everyone was out and has taken the pics secretly and without mentioning it to or asking anyone.

I feel so shocked and hurt and upset! Obviously, the condition of my bedroom is not ideal, but I am trying to deal with it, Kate has never spoken to me about hoarding etc and as the rest of the house is lovely (and the room she is staying in), it isn't affecting her visit in any way. So I'm left thinking why has she taken several detailed pics, behind my back and in secret!? If it's out of genuine concern, why not talk to me about it? Sadly, I think it's more likely that these pics are for her 'records' and are just something to mock me with and have a good laugh with her family when she gets home.

I think that taking secret photos of someone else's bedroom is a horribly sneaky, deceptive thing to do and is a real invasion of privacy and breach of trust. I haven't a clue what to do now or say to her. I want the photos deleted and an explanation/apology, but for the sake of my parents don't want to make a scene.

Am I overreacting in thinking this invades my privacy, or do people agree that this was a shitty thing that Kate has done? Sorry this is so long and rambling, I've been up all night fretting and teary about it and have had no sleep. I would really appreciate people's thoughts. Many thanks in advance.

OP posts:
Butterymuffin · 30/08/2018 09:38

I'd have deleted the photos on the spot. Can you get the camera now and do that?

BigBlueBubble · 30/08/2018 09:42

Delete the photos before you give the game away. Then tell your parents and insist that Kate leaves your home immediately.

Dodie66 · 30/08/2018 09:43

I would have deleted the photos too

MrsJamesKeziahDelaney · 30/08/2018 09:44

Just read that back, sorry it's long, it's sadly one of the aspects of my OCD that I struggle to explain things simply or succinctly. I'm really stuck though as to what to do about the photos situation. It seems such a bizarre and mean thing for her to do. What do the wise people of Mumsnet think, please?

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strawberrypenguin · 30/08/2018 09:46

Delete the photos.

Twotailed · 30/08/2018 09:50

YANBU, that is a horrible invasion of your privacy and I agree that it was almost certainly done so that she can show people later. Totally unacceptable - I’m so sorry you were treated that way.

I would talk to your parents about it and see if her visit can be cut short.

I hope you’re ok x

Assburgers · 30/08/2018 09:51

I wouldn’t delete the photos. I’d talk to her saying exactly what you said here. I would imagine she’d be really embarrassed & delete them anyway. Have your parents there when you talk to her.

Neshoma · 30/08/2018 09:52

Perhaps she knows someone like this back home and took the photos to 'help' the other person.

If she knows you are ill then it should be no surprise your room looks like it does.

Or maybe you can't see how bad it really is?

MrsJamesKeziahDelaney · 30/08/2018 09:53

Thanks for the responses. I know where the camera is, but wonder whether I should show my parents the pics of my room first, before deleting them, in case they don't believe me. I can't decide whether to ask Kate about it, surely she owes me an explanation and apology? I don't want it to turn into a row though, or for the visit to be ruined.

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Assburgers · 30/08/2018 09:53

Btw I agree that her plan was to show others, but if anyone showed me photos like that I’d think they (the photo taker) were a right dick & never trust them with anything.

Zippetydoodahzippetyay · 30/08/2018 09:54

I would delete the photos.

HesterMacaulay · 30/08/2018 09:54

Delete the photos Totally unreasonable invasion of your privacy.
Of course you feel upset!

Bluelady · 30/08/2018 09:55

Show your parents and then delete. Wait and see if she says anything.

mikeTV · 30/08/2018 09:58

Definitely delete. And check through the rest to see if there are any more/similar photos.

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 30/08/2018 09:58

This is not OK

The fact she did it when everyone was out, and didn't ask, shows that she knows it's not OK. It is a massive invasion of your privacy and just rude

It's up to you how you deal with it. If you don't like confrontation I would just probably tell your parents and let them deal with it or not. They and you may just decide to let it go as you don't have to see this woman again for a very long time or possibly ever.

I think I would delete the photos though. Towards the end of her stay so she wont take more. She won't say anything as won't know who did it and would then have to admit to taking them. She will know one of you knows though and it will drive her crazy wondering!

Ps your description was fine...if you hadn't gone into a lot of detail people would be wondering why you lived at your parents and why you were snooping on a phone and why she would take any pics of your bedroom etc

BadderWolf · 30/08/2018 09:59

Delete photos and put a lock on your door now. She will know (and she should) that this is a grotesque invasion of your privacy.

I have seen this done before with a hoarder's apartment, but this was with a view to a safety assessment and seeking help for them. Whilst still an invasion of privacy, I see that as a benign one. In your situation, I can't see anything positive for you to be gained from this Sad

BadderWolf · 30/08/2018 10:02

The dark side in me would actually delete her entire memory card, actually. She can learn what a creepy invasion of privacy feels like first hand.

Emmageddon · 30/08/2018 10:02

Delete the photos. Then tell her you have done so, when your parents are around.

I agree with the other posters, these photos were most likely taken with malicious intent - she was intending to show the photos to others in order to mock and humiliate you.

Imagine if you hadn't found the photos and in years to come, found intrusive photos of your bedroom on various social media platforms?

thebeesknees123 · 30/08/2018 10:03

It's very wrong and shows a complete lack of understanding of your issues. I would confront Kate yourself and ask her to explain

maZebraltov · 30/08/2018 10:04

Fetishist? I'd be tempted to put them on my FBk & post "Look at these weird pics someone took of my bedroom! I wonder who did this and why they are so interested in my clutter."

But I'm fairly weird & don't feel privacy about my clutter, heyho.

Bluntness100 · 30/08/2018 10:04

I would agree, this is horrible behaviour.

I'd show your parents, explain you thought it was your dads phone, then as a family I would speak to her.

I'd agree she needs to leave. It's a significant breach of trust.

letsdolunch321 · 30/08/2018 10:04

Hide her camera - the cheeky bitch.

HouseworkIsASin10 · 30/08/2018 10:06

Delete the photos. She's not going to ask you about it without having to explain why she took them. Just look bemused, no idea what she's talking about.

ohtheholidays · 30/08/2018 10:06

Show your parents and then delete the pictures,I'd also take a picture of yourself with a sign saying Kate stay out of my bedroom!

Can you imagine the look on her face when she see's that picture Grin

UpstartCrow · 30/08/2018 10:06

Yanbu. Tell your parents, and delete the photos if you can.

It's incredible how on every thread like this, there are always people desperate to interpret this kind of behaviour as well meaning.